Which dream weekend car up to say £85k
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Why only have a fun weekend car?
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But seriously as weekend only car, properly special, should hold value well my money at that budget would be going on a Ferrari F430 or a Lamborghini Gallardo Spyder.
Enjoy it every day in all weather:
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But seriously as weekend only car, properly special, should hold value well my money at that budget would be going on a Ferrari F430 or a Lamborghini Gallardo Spyder.
DjSki said:
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I feel that the value is currently in the F430 so leaning that way, GT3s seem to be sticking (I expect values to fall a bit this year) and I think have a bit more "collectors premium" in them than a F1 F430 at the moment.
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Sorry should be sorted now. Drop me a DM and we can talk.I feel that the value is currently in the F430 so leaning that way, GT3s seem to be sticking (I expect values to fall a bit this year) and I think have a bit more "collectors premium" in them than a F1 F430 at the moment.
Have been talking to AV Engineering, these guys know their stuff!
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When I had the same weekend car choice to make I went for a Gallardo over the 430. Its down to personal preferences but the Lambo just looks and sounds better. No regrets here.
As a leftfield alternative, something like this may not have the same badge prestige as your choices but its a proper weekend toy, and great fun to drive.
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Tempting.
As a leftfield alternative, something like this may not have the same badge prestige as your choices but its a proper weekend toy, and great fun to drive.
https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...
Tempting.
Sense of occasion?
McLaren are firmly now in the £70k to £90k bracket
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McLaren are firmly now in the £70k to £90k bracket
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I had a 430 F1 spider. It was definitely a special car in a way that no 911 ever can be. Amply fast enough in real world conditions. The two maintenance issues you are most likely to get are short clutch life and exhaust manifolds
The F1 box is a mechanised manual box. As with all such systems its fine once going but cant feather a clutch the way you can and so the clutch wear is heavy. Creeping in reverse up a hill can fry the clutch.
The exhaust manifolds are weak but the Mk 2 ones are better than the early ones. You will hear lots of scare stories on the web but those exagerrate the issue.
Either issue is maybe 4k give or take. Service is maybe £1k pa. Fuel - never got better than 16mpg driven like Mother Teresa. Tax 550.
Brilliant car amd there really is nothing that rivals a prancing horse on the bonnet.
The F1 box is a mechanised manual box. As with all such systems its fine once going but cant feather a clutch the way you can and so the clutch wear is heavy. Creeping in reverse up a hill can fry the clutch.
The exhaust manifolds are weak but the Mk 2 ones are better than the early ones. You will hear lots of scare stories on the web but those exagerrate the issue.
Either issue is maybe 4k give or take. Service is maybe £1k pa. Fuel - never got better than 16mpg driven like Mother Teresa. Tax 550.
Brilliant car amd there really is nothing that rivals a prancing horse on the bonnet.
Spindoctor said:
When I had the same weekend car choice to make I went for a Gallardo over the 430. Its down to personal preferences but the Lambo just looks and sounds better. No regrets here.
As a leftfield alternative, something like this may not have the same badge prestige as your choices but its a proper weekend toy, and great fun to drive.
https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...
Tempting.
Nice, but think this will shed value pretty quick....As a leftfield alternative, something like this may not have the same badge prestige as your choices but its a proper weekend toy, and great fun to drive.
https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...
Tempting.
To me, how it makes you feel owning a car outweighs how fast it is, or how quick it can go round a bend.
Unfortunately for me, less than 10% of ownership is driving, the other 90% is knowing I have it in the garage and how you pop into the garage fridge for a beer and half an hour vanishes just looking at it.
When I bought my first Ferrari 13 years ago, my old man tried to talk me out of it and asked why a Ferrari when I could go for a more mainstream fast car that will probably be cheaper to run and buy; my response was that I was currently in a situation I could afford it and may never be able to again, and I would rather be able to look back knowing I managed to get my hands on a car with a prancing horse on the rear, rather than compromising and buying an alternative.
After 13 continuous years of Ferrari ownership spread over 2 cars I loved there is now an empty space in the garage that I aim to fit a McLaren in.
Same scenario; really want one and don't want to miss the opportunity and look back kicking myself I didn't get one. Problem just now is the constant bad press on forums about depreciation, warranty costs blah blah blah driving prices down, but stuff it, its what I want so the space in the garage shall be filled.
For sure, the GT3 is epic, but go with your gut; all your posts seem like the F430 is the route you want to go.
Unfortunately for me, less than 10% of ownership is driving, the other 90% is knowing I have it in the garage and how you pop into the garage fridge for a beer and half an hour vanishes just looking at it.
When I bought my first Ferrari 13 years ago, my old man tried to talk me out of it and asked why a Ferrari when I could go for a more mainstream fast car that will probably be cheaper to run and buy; my response was that I was currently in a situation I could afford it and may never be able to again, and I would rather be able to look back knowing I managed to get my hands on a car with a prancing horse on the rear, rather than compromising and buying an alternative.
After 13 continuous years of Ferrari ownership spread over 2 cars I loved there is now an empty space in the garage that I aim to fit a McLaren in.
Same scenario; really want one and don't want to miss the opportunity and look back kicking myself I didn't get one. Problem just now is the constant bad press on forums about depreciation, warranty costs blah blah blah driving prices down, but stuff it, its what I want so the space in the garage shall be filled.
For sure, the GT3 is epic, but go with your gut; all your posts seem like the F430 is the route you want to go.
indapendentlee said:
Both good suggestions - GranTurismo MC Stradale is my current item of obsession - perhaps not as sporty or rapid as some of the others suggested here but the noise of the thing is spine tingling, it seats 4 in comfort (or 2 for long distances with bags).
A very nice problem to have though sir!
Granturismo is a very special and understated car. It isn't a supercar in any way but still feels like an event to drive. I can not think of a better sounding car and something like a 430 Ferarri just looks vulgar next to the GT. If you will be taking passengers - the GT is a fantastic choice and the Strad makes it a lot more specialA very nice problem to have though sir!
I have had a 996, lovely car but at £85k I think I'd go for a 997 GT3, have one eye out for one with a good spec to go and look at.
Saw two F430's this weekend, one was quite rough, the other (black £85k car at Lyndhurst Modena) was lovely (black/black) but they wont allow me a third party inspection at all, so that's out too.
They were a bit sniffy about me asking, I guess that's what you get at a main dealer.
Might go see the 12C at Ascot Mclaren up at £90k.......potential for major bork but Thorney Motorsport now seem to be offering options....
Saw two F430's this weekend, one was quite rough, the other (black £85k car at Lyndhurst Modena) was lovely (black/black) but they wont allow me a third party inspection at all, so that's out too.
They were a bit sniffy about me asking, I guess that's what you get at a main dealer.
Might go see the 12C at Ascot Mclaren up at £90k.......potential for major bork but Thorney Motorsport now seem to be offering options....
I meant in the long term a GT3 will not devalue I totally agree at this moment in time it might. Common sense tells you that when all new cars are battery/hybrids and automatics a naturally aspirated manual Porsche with that engine can only increase over time. Of course I might be wrong but I very much doubt it.....time will tell
DjSki said:
I have had a 996, lovely car but at £85k I think I'd go for a 997 GT3, have one eye out for one with a good spec to go and look at.
Saw two F430's this weekend, one was quite rough, the other (black £85k car at Lyndhurst Modena) was lovely (black/black) but they wont allow me a third party inspection at all, so that's out too.
They were a bit sniffy about me asking, I guess that's what you get at a main dealer.
Might go see the 12C at Ascot Mclaren up at £90k.......potential for major bork but Thorney Motorsport now seem to be offering options....
Confused... Why would you need an inspection on a main dealer Ferrari? Surely it would come with a warranty?Saw two F430's this weekend, one was quite rough, the other (black £85k car at Lyndhurst Modena) was lovely (black/black) but they wont allow me a third party inspection at all, so that's out too.
They were a bit sniffy about me asking, I guess that's what you get at a main dealer.
Might go see the 12C at Ascot Mclaren up at £90k.......potential for major bork but Thorney Motorsport now seem to be offering options....
I'd ask about the clutch wear % and check to see if there was evidence of the manifolds and suspension top mounts having been done in the past, but beyond that I'd have thought you'd be ok?
Kevin-sz0nv said:
I meant in the long term a GT3 will not devalue I totally agree at this moment in time it might. Common sense tells you that when all new cars are battery/hybrids and automatics a naturally aspirated manual Porsche with that engine can only increase over time. Of course I might be wrong but I very much doubt it.....time will tell
I agree with you, but this isn't about making money.Durzel said:
Confused... Why would you need an inspection on a main dealer Ferrari? Surely it would come with a warranty?
I'd ask about the clutch wear % and check to see if there was evidence of the manifolds and suspension top mounts having been done in the past, but beyond that I'd have thought you'd be ok?
I'm confused your confused.I'd ask about the clutch wear % and check to see if there was evidence of the manifolds and suspension top mounts having been done in the past, but beyond that I'd have thought you'd be ok?
New Power 15 warranty is far from comprehensive.
Also wanted to confirm lack of front end shunt as well know Ferrari experts thought it might have had one.
DjSki said:
I'm confused your confused.
New Power 15 warranty is far from comprehensive.
Also wanted to confirm lack of front end shunt as well know Ferrari experts thought it might have had one.
Couldn't you have opened the bonnet & checked the chassis seams yourselfNew Power 15 warranty is far from comprehensive.
Also wanted to confirm lack of front end shunt as well know Ferrari experts thought it might have had one.
Honestly I don't think main dealers can reasonably be expected to submit cars for independent inspections - it's one thing on a private sale where you are buying with no comeback from a non expert, or from a non specialist garage that may only do sales, but another from a franchised dealership who position themselves as preparing cars meticulously & offering decent back up and price the car accordingly.
That being said I wish I had had my R8 inspected that I bought privately it has cost me a lot - but still less than a franchised car
jakesmith said:
Couldn't you have opened the bonnet & checked the chassis seams yourself
Honestly I don't think main dealers can reasonably be expected to submit cars for independent inspections - it's one thing on a private sale where you are buying with no comeback from a non expert, or from a non specialist garage that may only do sales, but another from a franchised dealership who position themselves as preparing cars meticulously & offering decent back up and price the car accordingly.
That being said I wish I had had my R8 inspected that I bought privately it has cost me a lot - but still less than a franchised car
I did open the bonnet and check, I wouldn't have been able to take the photo otherwise would I, but I'm not an expert on what "original" looks like.Honestly I don't think main dealers can reasonably be expected to submit cars for independent inspections - it's one thing on a private sale where you are buying with no comeback from a non expert, or from a non specialist garage that may only do sales, but another from a franchised dealership who position themselves as preparing cars meticulously & offering decent back up and price the car accordingly.
That being said I wish I had had my R8 inspected that I bought privately it has cost me a lot - but still less than a franchised car
I think you are answering your own question. I'm just being cautious, its a lot of money to me, I want to reduce my chances of bork/surprise post purchase, pretty straightforward.
Dealers choice to allow an inspection or not, maybe I'm just not a very trusting car buyer......I have been burnt before.
jakesmith said:
Kevin-sz0nv said:
they are less then £85k and will not drop in price ...
You simply can not make that promise! You could pick up 996 GT3s for £35k a few years ago and could easily go back there again in less than 6 months from nowGassing Station | Supercar General | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff