McLaren 720s at £130,000
Discussion
rich12 said:
JiggyJaggy said:
Why not? these were £200k last year, utterly amazing value and too many people look a gift horse in the mouth with these.
Not sure really. I'm glad it has gone quickly as it was a proper bargain and if i'm honest, I really like the colour combo.I didn't really like my 720S, I just didn't gel with it at all but to be fair a sizable chunk of that was because it had a roof without an open button. I jumped in and ordered as soon as I saw the performance figures without engaging my brain.
However, if the convertibles start falling to this sort of money I'll be shopping for one of those "bought to sit in the garage" models in a heartbeat.
It isn't the miracle car it's made out to be, it has it's issues in my opinion but if convertibles start dropping like this it will be hard to ignore.
However, if the convertibles start falling to this sort of money I'll be shopping for one of those "bought to sit in the garage" models in a heartbeat.
It isn't the miracle car it's made out to be, it has it's issues in my opinion but if convertibles start dropping like this it will be hard to ignore.
rich12 said:
br d said:
it has it's issues in my opinion but if convertibles start dropping like this it will be hard to ignore.
Like the windscreen and door glass cracking if you shut the doors that little bit too hard? 
We're on windscreen number 3 and 2 new top door glass panels.. The one that gets me is the window dropping thing. I've had it on all my McLarens, they've all gone back in for "The Fix" and then they come out doing exactly the same thing, even on the same day they've been returned! I've just learned to live with it now. And yet, back when I used to frequent the McLaren forum on here whenever I mentioned it nobody seemed to know what I was talking about, I must be the unluckiest customer in the world!
I get it that when you've spent a quarter of a million quid on a car you don't want to nit-pick it but I'm a little cynical about people who say they've never had a single issue. Supercars have issues, they always have, it comes with the territory.
Maybe not though, maybe it's just me.
Edited by br d on Monday 16th March 16:33
br d said:
I didn't have my 720 long enough to get that Rich but I've had the windscreen crack on another McLaren while it sat there doing nothing. But to be fair they paid for it under warranty so that's a plus to McLaren.
The one that gets me is the window dropping thing. I've had it on all my McLarens, they've all gone back in for "The Fix" and then they come out doing exactly the same thing, even on the same day they've been returned! I've just learned to live with it now. And yet, back when I used to frequent the McLaren forum on here whenever I mentioned it nobody seemed to know what I was talking about, I must be the unluckiest customer in the world!
I get it that when you've spent a quarter of a million quid on a car you don't want to nit-pick it but I'm a little cynical about people who say they've never had a single issue. Supercars have issues, they always have, it comes with the territory.
Maybe not though, maybe it's just me.
We have the stupid issue on the 570S. Shut the door and the window doesn't go up. Sometimes, I open the door and the window goes half way down. The one that gets me is the window dropping thing. I've had it on all my McLarens, they've all gone back in for "The Fix" and then they come out doing exactly the same thing, even on the same day they've been returned! I've just learned to live with it now. And yet, back when I used to frequent the McLaren forum on here whenever I mentioned it nobody seemed to know what I was talking about, I must be the unluckiest customer in the world!
I get it that when you've spent a quarter of a million quid on a car you don't want to nit-pick it but I'm a little cynical about people who say they've never had a single issue. Supercars have issues, they always have, it comes with the territory.
Maybe not though, maybe it's just me.
Edited by br d on Monday 16th March 16:33
We've had all the issues McLaren has 'never seen before' on ours.
Just last week we had a crack in the coolant tank which meant it shat all of its coolant down the road in Knightsbridge.
rich12 said:
br d said:
I didn't have my 720 long enough to get that Rich but I've had the windscreen crack on another McLaren while it sat there doing nothing. But to be fair they paid for it under warranty so that's a plus to McLaren.
The one that gets me is the window dropping thing. I've had it on all my McLarens, they've all gone back in for "The Fix" and then they come out doing exactly the same thing, even on the same day they've been returned! I've just learned to live with it now. And yet, back when I used to frequent the McLaren forum on here whenever I mentioned it nobody seemed to know what I was talking about, I must be the unluckiest customer in the world!
I get it that when you've spent a quarter of a million quid on a car you don't want to nit-pick it but I'm a little cynical about people who say they've never had a single issue. Supercars have issues, they always have, it comes with the territory.
Maybe not though, maybe it's just me.
We have the stupid issue on the 570S. Shut the door and the window doesn't go up. Sometimes, I open the door and the window goes half way down. The one that gets me is the window dropping thing. I've had it on all my McLarens, they've all gone back in for "The Fix" and then they come out doing exactly the same thing, even on the same day they've been returned! I've just learned to live with it now. And yet, back when I used to frequent the McLaren forum on here whenever I mentioned it nobody seemed to know what I was talking about, I must be the unluckiest customer in the world!
I get it that when you've spent a quarter of a million quid on a car you don't want to nit-pick it but I'm a little cynical about people who say they've never had a single issue. Supercars have issues, they always have, it comes with the territory.
Maybe not though, maybe it's just me.
Edited by br d on Monday 16th March 16:33
We've had all the issues McLaren has 'never seen before' on ours.
Just last week we had a crack in the coolant tank which meant it shat all of its coolant down the road in Knightsbridge.
Yep, had the coolant tank leak, that never happens on the McLaren forums either.
The window drop is always "Something our technicians are looking into".
Really? This is a mystery to you?
And the DAB?
And the low battery?
And the cracked windscreen?
It's you and me only mate, we must be swapping the same cars between us!
Although I do keep buying them, because despite the apparently non-existent issues they are by far and away the best Supercars I've ever owned.
Just wish we could be a little more honest about the ownership experience.
Incidentally Rich, have you been banned from the McLaren forum on PH yet? Subversives like you aren't generally tolerated these days.
Stay safe mate, stay safe.
Nope.
I have a love and hate relationship with McLarens so some times I'll post positives (like how good they are to drive) and then I'll post the negatives like how s
t the CS can be and the fact that it's getting harder and harder to justify owning McLarens because of the residuals.
I always thought you were a pro McLaren member when I've seen you post but then I suppose it's probably just because you're posts are about YOUR cars rather than 99% of the contributors that have never even sat in one.
I have a love and hate relationship with McLarens so some times I'll post positives (like how good they are to drive) and then I'll post the negatives like how s
t the CS can be and the fact that it's getting harder and harder to justify owning McLarens because of the residuals. I always thought you were a pro McLaren member when I've seen you post but then I suppose it's probably just because you're posts are about YOUR cars rather than 99% of the contributors that have never even sat in one.
rich12 said:
Nope.
I have a love and hate relationship with McLarens so some times I'll post positives (like how good they are to drive) and then I'll post the negatives like how st the CS can be and the fact that it's getting harder and harder to justify owning McLarens because of the residuals.
Yep, I hear that.I have a love and hate relationship with McLarens so some times I'll post positives (like how good they are to drive) and then I'll post the negatives like how s
t the CS can be and the fact that it's getting harder and harder to justify owning McLarens because of the residuals. It's that McLaren dichotomy that doesn't seem to come up for F's and L's.
Even now you still hear "Because it's a Ferrari" which is absurd because to me a car has to be judged on it's own merits not on it's history. Fair enough, "the brand" can be judged on it's lineage but you aren't flooring "the brand" off the slightly slippery roundabout and onto a fast dual carriageway. The car itself is what matters when you're spending your hard earned.
Lambo's seem largely exempt from the snobbery and the precision criticism and frankly would be my car of choice if it wasn't for the obvious flaws. I always feel Lambo owners get away with murder, they are fantastic cars anyway but even if you have an issue with them a Lambo owner will just laugh and disappear into the distance. That's something about Lamborghini I've always found intoxicating, they have nothing to prove to anyone.
And then we have the Macs. Technically by far the better cars, quicker, more precise and more exciting but pressed into the ground by the classic "It's not an Italian" mindset of those who've never owned one. They're like an 18 year old with a hard on, sure they haven't the experience of the older guys but by christ they could bang a nail in with it!
rich12 said:
I always thought you were a pro McLaren member when I've seen you post but then I suppose it's probably just because you're posts are about YOUR cars rather than 99% of the contributors that have never even sat in one.
I actually love the fact that this place gives people who don't have these cars a chance to enjoy them through the experience of owners, I feel it's a really positive element of a forum like this. It's why I don't warm to private owners clubs and their forums where you can only be included if everybody else agrees with you. I used to hate it when new owners would post on PH and they would immediately be advised to "Join our special owners group" and then you'd never see them again. What's the point of joining a group if only the people in the group can join?
Anyway, getting off topic. Been very refreshing having this exchange Rich, if you're in the London area give me a shout, would love to hook up for a pint.
Edited by br d on Monday 16th March 19:26
Edited by br d on Monday 16th March 19:32
[quote=br d][quote=rich12]
Lambo's seem largely exempt from the snobbery and the precision criticism and frankly would be my car of choice if it wasn't for the obvious flaws. I always feel Lambo owners get away with murder, they are fantastic cars anyway but even if you have an issue with them a Lambo owner will just laugh and disappear into the distance. That's something about Lamborghini I've always found intoxicating, they have nothing to prove to anyone.
[quote=rich12]
That’s exactly right.
Lambo owners have always been a happy band of irregulars.
That is the spirit of Lamborghini.
Lambo's seem largely exempt from the snobbery and the precision criticism and frankly would be my car of choice if it wasn't for the obvious flaws. I always feel Lambo owners get away with murder, they are fantastic cars anyway but even if you have an issue with them a Lambo owner will just laugh and disappear into the distance. That's something about Lamborghini I've always found intoxicating, they have nothing to prove to anyone.
[quote=rich12]
That’s exactly right.
Lambo owners have always been a happy band of irregulars.
That is the spirit of Lamborghini.
Interesting discussion...for me it was always gonna be a Mclaren despite the flaws they represent such value for money at 2/3 yrs old. I also like the slightly understated ( relative terms!) appeal of the brand compared to the Italians, having said that if the choice was only between a Lambo or a Ferrari I'd pick the bull all day...a Huracan Performante in that case.
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