Collecting Cars auction results

Collecting Cars auction results

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Cheib

19,154 posts

132 months

Friday 17th July
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Anyone see what the 911 2.4S got bid to ?

2.7RS at £435k seems cheap for a RHD car.

spikeyhead

11,858 posts

154 months

Friday 17th July
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Cheib said:
Anyone see what the 911 2.4S got bid to ?

2.7RS at £435k seems cheap for a RHD car.
£87k

Taffy66

4,024 posts

59 months

Friday 17th July
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spikeyhead said:
£87k
Bargain for a 1973 911S despite being LHD..Not surprised it didn't sell at that price as i'd have expected the reserve to be over £100K..

Upperworks

1,183 posts

109 months

Friday 17th July
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mstrbkr said:
The owner thinks they can recover a lot more of their £250k spend, which is kind of ridiculous given how much of it is money down the drain on options.
It’s the second owner. It was sold via International Collectibles a year or two back, I believe at 170k or so, so not taking as big a hit as the first owner.

Cheib

19,154 posts

132 months

Friday 17th July
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Taffy66 said:
spikeyhead said:
£87k
Bargain for a 1973 911S despite being LHD..Not surprised it didn't sell at that price as i'd have expected the reserve to be over £100K..
Heat coming out of the market maybe ? Although this could possibly have just been an example that on closer scrutiny needed money spending,

This car was advertised towards the beginning of the year for Eur 240k and sold recently. Was a fresh restoration

https://www.sergeheitz-consulting.com/en/porsche-9...

SFTWend

187 posts

32 months

Saturday 18th July
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I fancied the 911S. I got excited when it was only at £45k with 22 hours to go.
I suspect the non standard bumpers and missing sill trims held the bidding back. Also, the original spec had seats with basket weave inserts.

Edited by SFTWend on Saturday 18th July 06:59

Petrus1983

3,886 posts

119 months

Saturday 18th July
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Cheib said:
Does anyone know what the V12 Vantage S was bid to ?

https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/2018-aston-mar...


I believe that was when it finally ended - this had happened a little before which confused things -


Cheib

19,154 posts

132 months

Saturday 18th July
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Oh dear....not a good look ! Amazing that the reserve was lowered and it still didn’t sell.

Bring a Trailer leave all the old auctions up with comments from bidders and sellers etc. The fact Collecting Cars don’t tells you they are not 100% impartial (which they should be).

It’s biggest issue is that it’s owned/run by someone who is slightly conflicted in that he’s also a car dealer and will I am guessing use it to try and sell cars where owners don’t like the SoR price or Bid he shows them. “If we don’t sell the car we’ll remove the auction” so your car is tainted as having failed to sell” is probably the sales pitch

SFTWend

187 posts

32 months

Saturday 18th July
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Cheib said:
Oh dear....not a good look ! Amazing that the reserve was lowered and it still didn’t sell.

Bring a Trailer leave all the old auctions up with comments from bidders and sellers etc. The fact Collecting Cars don’t tells you they are not 100% impartial (which they should be).

It’s biggest issue is that it’s owned/run by someone who is slightly conflicted in that he’s also a car dealer and will I am guessing use it to try and sell cars where owners don’t like the SoR price or Bid he shows them. “If we don’t sell the car we’ll remove the auction” so your car is tainted as having failed to sell” is probably the sales pitch
So you've got dealers selling their stock through another dealers web platform.

Plenty of cars fetching good money so I suggest highest bids are what 'not sold' cars are worth.

Ferruccio

1,271 posts

76 months

Saturday 18th July
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SFTWend said:
Plenty of cars fetching good money so I suggest highest bids are what 'not sold' cars are worth.
Any auction is on that day and depends who’s turned up.
So indicative of current value but certainly not definitive.

Cheib

19,154 posts

132 months

Saturday 18th July
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SFTWend said:
Cheib said:
Oh dear....not a good look ! Amazing that the reserve was lowered and it still didn’t sell.

Bring a Trailer leave all the old auctions up with comments from bidders and sellers etc. The fact Collecting Cars don’t tells you they are not 100% impartial (which they should be).

It’s biggest issue is that it’s owned/run by someone who is slightly conflicted in that he’s also a car dealer and will I am guessing use it to try and sell cars where owners don’t like the SoR price or Bid he shows them. “If we don’t sell the car we’ll remove the auction” so your car is tainted as having failed to sell” is probably the sales pitch
So you've got dealers selling their stock through another dealers web platform.

Plenty of cars fetching good money so I suggest highest bids are what 'not sold' cars are worth.
There’s nothing wrong with dealers using it, they do that on BaT. Everyone knows it.

Everyone knows normal auctions aren’t shall we say everything they pretend to be and that car dealers play games. CC has a real opportunity to be totally transparent and set itself apart. It’s short sighted in my opinion.

MDL111

4,788 posts

134 months

Saturday 18th July
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Anybody else bidding on the 550/anybody know anything about the car?

C4ME

843 posts

168 months

Saturday 18th July
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SFTWend said:
Plenty of cars fetching good money so I suggest highest bids are what 'not sold' cars are worth.
You can not take any highest bid below the reserve to have any meaning. The auction house may bid on its own behalf to just under the reserve value (a number of online auction sites have the right to do this explicitly stated in their terms and conditions). The seller may themselves get a 'friend' to bid the car to just under the reserve.

MJK 24

5,507 posts

193 months

Saturday 18th July
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Mezzanine said:
Aston Martin Cygnet bid to £20.5k with three days to go?!

World’s mad!
Agreed, I thought it'd make 10k ish!!
I've never seen one in the flesh.

Is it just a fancy interior difference to the IQ?

Or is it much more?
No, not much more at all.
To be fair, a very high standard of paint finish compared to typical cars of this size.

I’ve seen one up close. They’re very nicely done. I just can’t see any value in them!

rat rod

504 posts

22 months

Saturday 18th July
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Slippydiff said:
I spent a considerable amount of time looking at the hi-res images of the car earlier in the week. The more you looked, the more issues became obvious.
I'd like to see the quality of cage install/removal once the interior is removed. And on the basis of the corrosion of the A pillar, I'd imagine there may be other corrosion issues lurking elsewhere too (maybe not structural/MOT failure stuff, but still worthy of/needing rectification)

It's original colour of Oro Chiaro Met was an interesting (and rare ?) choice for a Vetroresina :



On the basis the auction details indicate the car's been painted twice already, any bodywork restoration project won't be the work of five minutes.

It's on 16" wheels (either originals with their decals missing, or replicas) and at 62K miles it's not going to be one for the collector.

Could be a great (and usable) project, but with prices heading south rather than north, it could prove be an inspired sale on the vendor's part ...






Had a GT4 in this colour,looked really good,also had a metallic brown one,not so good, I know the brown one is now red but not sure what happened to the gold one,hope they left it alone. When they were new people would order their Ferrari's in the colour they wanted ,they were just another new car that depreciated like any other car in those days whether be it red or any other colour.

Slippydiff

11,362 posts

180 months

Saturday 18th July
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rat rod said:
Had a GT4 in this colour,looked really good, also had a metallic brown one not so good, I know the brown one is now red but not sure what happened to the gold one,hope they left it alone. When they were new people would order their Ferrari's in the colour they wanted ,they were just another new car that depreciated like any other car in those days whether be it red or any other colour.
Marrone metallizzato ? I rather like it smile

rat rod

504 posts

22 months

Saturday 18th July
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Slippydiff said:
rat rod said:
Had a GT4 in this colour,looked really good, also had a metallic brown one not so good, I know the brown one is now red but not sure what happened to the gold one,hope they left it alone. When they were new people would order their Ferrari's in the colour they wanted ,they were just another new car that depreciated like any other car in those days whether be it red or any other colour.
Marrone metallizzato ? I rather like it smile
That's the one, i was just being to lazy to look it up,Thanks ,Looks stunning when new but unless looked after like most dark colours shows every mark and scratch and the one i owned had plenty of them having been parked in the road in central London for a few years, I think a larger car like the 400 carries it off better.These colours seem to have come full circle and i see quite a few modern cars in this or similar shades. Would love to see a new Ferrari in this colour ,so different from the norm.

21ATS

155 posts

29 months

Saturday 18th July
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MDL111 said:
Anybody else bidding on the 550/anybody know anything about the car?
If you mean the Le Mans Blue over Cuoio on CC it's already passed what I'd be comfortable at.

It's a Japanese import with incomplete history and is now at a price that would suggest it's being repatriated to a LHD country,

Interestingly there were three LHD Maranellos at the Historics sale today none of which made reserve (one 550, two 575's), all high bids we're lower than the current bid on the CC car. Bar the manual 575m which I was told got bid up to £100k and still remained unsold. I feel £100K is a pretty fair bid today and the seller may regret not letting it go for that.

Sellers need to realign their expectations on Maranello's which had already slipped before CV-19.

Edited by 21ATS on Saturday 18th July 23:30

MDL111

4,788 posts

134 months

Sunday 19th July
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21ATS said:
MDL111 said:
Anybody else bidding on the 550/anybody know anything about the car?
If you mean the Le Mans Blue over Cuoio on CC it's already passed what I'd be comfortable at.

It's a Japanese import with incomplete history and is now at a price that would suggest it's being repatriated to a LHD country,

Interestingly there were three LHD Maranellos at the Historics sale today none of which made reserve (one 550, two 575's), all high bids we're lower than the current bid on the CC car. Bar the manual 575m which I was told got bid up to £100k and still remained unsold. I feel £100K is a pretty fair bid today and the seller may regret not letting it go for that.

Sellers need to realign their expectations on Maranello's which had already slipped before CV-19.

Edited by 21ATS on Saturday 18th July 23:30
Yes that one
I agree history does not look great and it will need a big service straight after purchase.
I have not decided until what level I am comfortable, but I suspect it will be (i) possibly lower than the reserve and (ii) lower than other people are willing to go given I need to factor in the service and lack of warranty. I do love the color combination and fact that it has no shields though, so might stretch a little

21ATS

155 posts

29 months

Sunday 19th July
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MDL111 said:
Yes that one
I agree history does not look great and it will need a big service straight after purchase.
I have not decided until what level I am comfortable, but I suspect it will be (i) possibly lower than the reserve and (ii) lower than other people are willing to go given I need to factor in the service and lack of warranty. I do love the color combination and fact that it has no shields though, so might stretch a little
It sounds like we're both looking for the same car.

I also like this colour combo, also prefer no sheilds.

I even prefer the standard seats over daytona's.

My preference is any green, any blue, interesting dark reds or grigio titanio, I prefer a light/contrasting interior.