Collecting Cars auction results

Collecting Cars auction results

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paul0843

1,558 posts

164 months

Thursday 13th August
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Petrus1983 said:
paul0843 said:
Do you mean Beverly Hills car club?
All their cars need work,but to be fair this is always reflected in the price you pay.
Have bought a couple from them.
Paul
That’s interesting. Yes - I feel fairly represented condition wise. Any hassles?
Very straightforward. They organise the shipping and all paperwork.
No frillls operation,working on turnover. You actually get the feeling they don’t even know what
they have,and stock keeps turning up on a daily basis.
Easily over 200,maybe even 300 cars spread over 3 warehouses .
I would actually trust them enough to buy blind as you know it will need work.

bish_345

57 posts

27 months

Friday 14th August
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V-spec said:
-Is there a way to search BaT for cars being sold outside the US?
Yes. If you bring up the list of auctions you are given a drop down menu enabling you to sort them (eg by ending soonest, highest bid etc). One of those options is to sort by closest distance to a US postcode. If you put a random US postcode in the cars will be listed on that basis. 99% of the cars will be in the US (a few in Canada). However, if you scroll all the way to the bottom (i.e furthest from a US post code) you may find a few cars located in countries outside the US/Canada. For example, there is a 1983 911SC currently being auctioned on BaT which is apparently located in the Netherlands.

V-spec

679 posts

208 months

Wednesday 19th August
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This might be a stupid question but here goes...

There is obviously a lot of knowledge on BaT, much more comments and issues spotted in the bidding than on CC. Probably due to the target market size, since CC is mostly RHD cars and therefore quite UK specific.

It could be very useful to tap into this knowledge... is there a way to contact BaT bidders? I cant see one.. I guess to avoid bid rigging

tomtom

4,140 posts

187 months

Wednesday 19th August
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Maybe people spot the issues but don't want to mention them in public because it gives the seller the opportunity to play them down? Or perhaps people actually go to view the cars before bidding, something that's easier in the UK because of the distances involved, compared to BaT and the US.

It's a double edged sword. I've posted comments / questions about a car I was bidding on and tried to phrase them in a way that I hoped would put off other bidders, whatever the answer from the seller. Obviously didn't work as I didn't win the car...

V-spec

679 posts

208 months

Wednesday 19th August
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tomtom said:
It's a double edged sword. I've posted comments / questions about a car I was bidding on and tried to phrase them in a way that I hoped would put off other bidders, whatever the answer from the seller. Obviously didn't work as I didn't win the car...
rofl Cant say I blame you

There's a car on at the moment that I'm very interested in (don't want to say which one as I don't want to attract attention.... but it's nice cloud9 ) However I am not a mechanic and not hugely knowledgeable about this model, so hesitating to register and start bidding.

Would be good to email the link to an "expert" for them to cast their eye over just for basic peace of mind, but I don't know any. Visiting is person is not an option at the moment, you have to quarantine for 2 weeks if you come from my country otherwise I think I would be making the drive

golfer19

1,358 posts

90 months

Wednesday 19th August
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I see a couple of cars back up again.
The silver Alfa spider and the Mark 1 Escort have both been on before and not that long ago.

Castrol for a knave

1,239 posts

48 months

Wednesday 19th August
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Petrus1983 said:
V-Spec whats BaT?

I looked into importing a car from California that was on sale at Hollywood Car Club and was surprised at the price (favourable) which included getting it here, taxed and sorting some headlight type issues.
Is it still the case that a car originally made in the EU, can be shipped from the US at a lower import tax rate? I am sure it applied until the end of this year, but might be wrong.


dinkel

25,494 posts

215 months

Wednesday 19th August
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V-spec said:
This might be a stupid question but here goes...

There is obviously a lot of knowledge on BaT, much more comments and issues spotted in the bidding than on CC. Probably due to the target market size, since CC is mostly RHD cars and therefore quite UK specific.

It could be very useful to tap into this knowledge... is there a way to contact BaT bidders? I cant see one.. I guess to avoid bid rigging
The Dutch Differs starts a CC venture: https://www.ad.nl/auto/nieuwe-autoveilingsite-vana...

September 2020: https://collectingcars.nl/

Cheib

19,157 posts

132 months

Wednesday 19th August
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dinkel said:
V-spec said:
This might be a stupid question but here goes...

There is obviously a lot of knowledge on BaT, much more comments and issues spotted in the bidding than on CC. Probably due to the target market size, since CC is mostly RHD cars and therefore quite UK specific.

It could be very useful to tap into this knowledge... is there a way to contact BaT bidders? I cant see one.. I guess to avoid bid rigging
The Dutch Differs starts a CC venture: https://www.ad.nl/auto/nieuwe-autoveilingsite-vana...

September 2020: https://collectingcars.nl/
Differs already have a tie up with International Collectibles....a lot of the LHD cars on International Collectables are cars that come from Differs. They JV on them.

HotHatchFan

865 posts

154 months

Wednesday 19th August
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golfer19 said:
I see a couple of cars back up again.
The silver Alfa spider and the Mark 1 Escort have both been on before and not that long ago.
I've just noticed there's a 205 GTi 1.6i which has re-appeared. It seemingly sold back in May, but is the same location so assume the same seller. So what do we think is the story with these, winning bidder hasn't proceeded with the sale due to it not being as described, or other issues?

HotHatchFan

865 posts

154 months

Wednesday 19th August
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MDMA .

5,651 posts

58 months

Wednesday 19th August
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HotHatchFan said:
I've just noticed there's a 205 GTi 1.6i which has re-appeared. It seemingly sold back in May, but is the same location so assume the same seller. So what do we think is the story with these, winning bidder hasn't proceeded with the sale due to it not being as described, or other issues?
Was a trader selling it at the time I think -

https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C1124499

And only sold last year on The Market -

https://themarket.co.uk/listings/peugeot/205gti-16...

dinkel

25,494 posts

215 months

Thursday 20th August
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Cheib said:
Differs already have a tie up with International Collectibles....a lot of the LHD cars on International Collectables are cars that come from Differs. They JV on them.
It's a small worls I know... wink Edward is very clear in what he likes to achieve and he has a keen eye on business.

Cheib

19,157 posts

132 months

Thursday 20th August
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dinkel said:
Cheib said:
Differs already have a tie up with International Collectibles....a lot of the LHD cars on International Collectables are cars that come from Differs. They JV on them.
It's a small worls I know... wink Edward is very clear in what he likes to achieve and he has a keen eye on business.
Can’t deny that CC is doing well. Just think if they cleaned things up a bit like keeping all auctions on the site rather than just the one’s that sold it would be better in the long term.

Pommy

11,028 posts

173 months

Friday 21st August
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Cheib said:
dinkel said:
Cheib said:
Differs already have a tie up with International Collectibles....a lot of the LHD cars on International Collectables are cars that come from Differs. They JV on them.
It's a small worls I know... wink Edward is very clear in what he likes to achieve and he has a keen eye on business.
Can’t deny that CC is doing well. Just think if they cleaned things up a bit like keeping all auctions on the site rather than just the one’s that sold it would be better in the long term.
I would think they know some have been bought by trade to immediately resell and probably don't want the purchase prices easily available.

subirg

623 posts

233 months

Saturday 22nd August
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The green Bac Mono that recently sold for about £65k is now up for sale for £75k. Wonder if it will sell...

spreadselbow

26 posts

14 months

Wednesday 26th August
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Anyone have any thoughts on if a car doesn't sell for asking on collecting cars? I have a slight (probably unjustified) fear that the car would have a black mark against it for future trades?
It seems the quickest way to get out your high priced motor these days with a fair return, (it is a MK2 Gallardo Superleggera for reference so unlikely to get confused for 'another car'
Appreciate your thoughts.

SFTWend

189 posts

32 months

Wednesday 26th August
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spreadselbow said:
Anyone have any thoughts on if a car doesn't sell for asking on collecting cars? I have a slight (probably unjustified) fear that the car would have a black mark against it for future trades?
It seems the quickest way to get out your high priced motor these days with a fair return, (it is a MK2 Gallardo Superleggera for reference so unlikely to get confused for 'another car'
Appreciate your thoughts.
I don't think you have anything to fear. Unlike most auction websites cars that don't sell are removed from the platform so there shouldn't be an audit trail recording a non sale. I suggest many if not most cars on CC are going for fairly strong money at the moment so be quick whilst the sun is still shining.

bigmowley

799 posts

133 months

Wednesday 26th August
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I can’t help but think that there is quite a bit of skullduggery that goes on behind the scenes at CC.
The 924 Carrera GT that I was following with interest has suddenly vanished with just over 24hrs to go. Not a word of explanation just gone. Even a “withdrawn” comment to all the people watching wouldn’t go amiss. This does seem to happen quite often! I wonder if the vendor has to pay a fee if it is withdrawn.
Perhaps this is a bit of vendor nervousness that if the early bidding doesn’t look promising then withdraw the lot rather than have it tainted by a failed to meet reserve.

The other thing that is odd is that some lots sit for weeks and weeks in the coming soon section, and others barely skim past that bit. Surely once the pictures are taken it’s not much work to write the spiel? Some stuff disappears as well without ever going to auction. I think it should be titled “coming soon.....maybe”.

I have also noticed that M3’s of most generations seem to meet their reserves very early on in the bidding. Are the reserves set to low, or is there a lot of interest in early M3,s at the moment? They do seem to fetch good money.

spikeyhead

11,858 posts

154 months

Wednesday 26th August
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bigmowley said:
I can’t help but think that there is quite a bit of skullduggery that goes on behind the scenes at CC.
The 924 Carrera GT that I was following with interest has suddenly vanished with just over 24hrs to go. Not a word of explanation just gone. Even a “withdrawn” comment to all the people watching wouldn’t go amiss. This does seem to happen quite often! I wonder if the vendor has to pay a fee if it is withdrawn.
Perhaps this is a bit of vendor nervousness that if the early bidding doesn’t look promising then withdraw the lot rather than have it tainted by a failed to meet reserve.

The other thing that is odd is that some lots sit for weeks and weeks in the coming soon section, and others barely skim past that bit. Surely once the pictures are taken it’s not much work to write the spiel? Some stuff disappears as well without ever going to auction. I think it should be titled “coming soon.....maybe”.

I have also noticed that M3’s of most generations seem to meet their reserves very early on in the bidding. Are the reserves set to low, or is there a lot of interest in early M3,s at the moment? They do seem to fetch good money.
Unless I'm mistaken, that 924 GT finished this evening for £48,000, it's not on the sold list so didn't make reserve