Collecting Cars auction results

Collecting Cars auction results

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SFTWend

818 posts

74 months

Sunday 15th November 2020
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Personally I think the level of transparency offered by The Market is exceptional and they should be applauded for it.

For a buyer they stand head and shoulders above any other UK platform and I hope they prosper.

kevinon

799 posts

59 months

Sunday 15th November 2020
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SFTWend said:
Personally I think the level of transparency offered by The Market is exceptional and they should be applauded for it.

For a buyer they stand head and shoulders above any other UK platform and I hope they prosper.
This. When it's just pixels on a screen, trust matters.

Gareth220

160 posts

81 months

Sunday 15th November 2020
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Just found this thread on CC after having an ‘interesting’ dealing with them this week. Bought a car on Monday evening and immediately made contact with the seller. At this point it got weird, in that the seller wanted me to deal with the CC office as he wasn’t UK based. A day later it transpired the car wasn’t UK registered, couldn’t be MOT’d despite being told it would be before sale completed, and whilst apparently in the UK hadn’t officially been notified as such. On raising my concern with these issues with CC they without delay returned my auction fee, and whilst I offered to continue to buy the car on different terms all went totally radio silent from both CC and seller for several days. When they finally replied it is to say they have sold the car to someone else.

So dodgy history, dodgy description, honest mistake, CC trying to do the right thing, they got more for the car elsewhere or something else I just don’t know but hasn’t been a great experience. CC were much more directly involved in this sale than I expect, the seller handing everything to them to deal with.

I will probably look to use more conventional sources to buy a car in the future.

Shame as on the face of it some nice cars on CC.

ferdi p

1,519 posts

171 months

Sunday 15th November 2020
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Gareth220 said:
Just found this thread on CC after having an ‘interesting’ dealing with them this week. Bought a car on Monday evening and immediately made contact with the seller. At this point it got weird, in that the seller wanted me to deal with the CC office as he wasn’t UK based. A day later it transpired the car wasn’t UK registered, couldn’t be MOT’d despite being told it would be before sale completed, and whilst apparently in the UK hadn’t officially been notified as such. On raising my concern with these issues with CC they without delay returned my auction fee, and whilst I offered to continue to buy the car on different terms all went totally radio silent from both CC and seller for several days. When they finally replied it is to say they have sold the car to someone else.

So dodgy history, dodgy description, honest mistake, CC trying to do the right thing, they got more for the car elsewhere or something else I just don’t know but hasn’t been a great experience. CC were much more directly involved in this sale than I expect, the seller handing everything to them to deal with.

I will probably look to use more conventional sources to buy a car in the future.

Shame as on the face of it some nice cars on CC.
Crikey, that's terrible!!

Wilmslowboy

4,189 posts

205 months

Sunday 15th November 2020
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I guess this is one of the risks for CC not charging the seller, the potential to get dicked about. Without some listing charge it's difficult to go to the expense of validating all of the sellers claims.

Appears CC did the right thing by retuning your fee 'without delay'.






Gareth220 said:
Just found this thread on CC after having an ‘interesting’ dealing with them this week. Bought a car on Monday evening and immediately made contact with the seller. At this point it got weird, in that the seller wanted me to deal with the CC office as he wasn’t UK based. A day later it transpired the car wasn’t UK registered, couldn’t be MOT’d despite being told it would be before sale completed, and whilst apparently in the UK hadn’t officially been notified as such. On raising my concern with these issues with CC they without delay returned my auction fee, and whilst I offered to continue to buy the car on different terms all went totally radio silent from both CC and seller for several days. When they finally replied it is to say they have sold the car to someone else.

So dodgy history, dodgy description, honest mistake, CC trying to do the right thing, they got more for the car elsewhere or something else I just don’t know but hasn’t been a great experience. CC were much more directly involved in this sale than I expect, the seller handing everything to them to deal with.

I will probably look to use more conventional sources to buy a car in the future.

Shame as on the face of it some nice cars on CC.

SFTWend

818 posts

74 months

Sunday 15th November 2020
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Surely CC would have discovered the car was not UK registered when they attempted to perform the HPI check?

robsco

7,822 posts

175 months

Sunday 15th November 2020
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I must admit, I won’t be using CC again after selling an Elan Plus 2 with them recently. I will point out from the outset, they didn’t do anything especially wrong; but for anyone who markets a car with them, I’d just advise caution. CC want to sell your car - but they do not care about getting the best possible price for you, the vendor.

Yes they deal in enthusiast cars, but I am not sure the place is truly run by enthusiasts (shameless Chris Harris plugs don’t convince me otherwise). And yes, you may argue that the higher the selling price, the higher the fees so of course it is in their interest to maximise the selling price - but this was not the impression I got from selling with them.

It is difficult not to get caught up in the whirlwind when the car has been online a week and is coming to the end. “Lower the reserve”. “We advise you remove the reserve to ensure the car sells”. “This is all the car is worth”. “Don’t miss out.” Unfortunately I was too easily influenced and got lost in the romance of an imaginary “bidding flurry” at the end. My car had a few issues, but in the end it was still grossly undersold and I still kick myself now, a few months on.

So, to those using CC. Don’t lose sight of your car’s worth. Set yourself a bottom value and don’t allow yourself to be drawn into lowering it. If it doesn’t make reserve, take stock before you make any rash decisions and don’t succumb to the pressures of a ticking clock, or by CC staff pushing you otherwise.

One more point, a small one but one I think is noteworthy. During the final hours of the auction I had a flurry of messages from one of their representatives, understandable. When the auction finished I never heard another word from CC.





spikeyhead

17,224 posts

196 months

Sunday 15th November 2020
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SFTWend said:
Surely CC would have discovered the car was not UK registered when they attempted to perform the HPI check?
that's the bit that should have made it obvious to them that there was an issue which they should have dealt with.

Bo_apex

2,506 posts

217 months

Sunday 15th November 2020
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Meanwhile there was plenty of solid action at Silverstone even Michael Winner's car sold biggrin

https://silverstoneauctions.com/events/2020-auctio...

Drclarke

1,185 posts

172 months

Sunday 15th November 2020
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After the initial flurry of publicity, Chris Harris seems to have distanced himself from the company. After reading some of the comments of those, perhaps he saw the writing on the wall and made a wise choice!

Bo_apex

2,506 posts

217 months

Sunday 15th November 2020
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Drclarke said:
After the initial flurry of publicity, Chris Harris seems to have distanced himself from the company. After reading some of the comments of those, perhaps he saw the writing on the wall and made a wise choice!
As a BBC presenter he needs to be careful, the new boss has tightened up social media rules for all its presenters.

webstercivet

457 posts

73 months

Sunday 15th November 2020
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The BBC's talking about introducing a Parliament-style public register of interests where presenters would have declare external paid work and shareholdings.

kevinon

799 posts

59 months

Sunday 15th November 2020
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webstercivet said:
The BBC's talking about introducing a Parliament-style public register of interests where presenters would have declare external paid work and shareholdings.
Indeed. The Chris Harris's seal of approval for CC could cause a naive buyer to assume that CC do HPI checks (and more) before listing.

ferrisbueller

29,260 posts

226 months

Sunday 15th November 2020
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Drclarke said:
After the initial flurry of publicity, Chris Harris seems to have distanced himself from the company. After reading some of the comments of those, perhaps he saw the writing on the wall and made a wise choice!
He's still doing the podcasts.

LaurasOtherHalf

21,429 posts

195 months

Sunday 15th November 2020
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ferrisbueller said:
Drclarke said:
After the initial flurry of publicity, Chris Harris seems to have distanced himself from the company. After reading some of the comments of those, perhaps he saw the writing on the wall and made a wise choice!
He's still doing the podcasts.
And pimping their sales on his Twitter feed. I’m not sure where the idea he’s distancing himself came from?

birdcage

2,838 posts

204 months

Sunday 15th November 2020
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I mentioned this before but The Market were great, they had driven the car I bought, honest and dare I say fun descriptions of the cars with an idea of reserve.

I like the fact they have the car at their headquarters, they help register it and seem quite passionate about what they do.

I was thinking about selling a supercar through CC, they kept texting me with crap prices and I wasn't convinced. It all seems a bit 'sheepskin jacket'

Shame as the idea is good but they might as well be selling white goods, I don't see any passion just barrow boys.


VonSenger

2,465 posts

188 months

Sunday 15th November 2020
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LaurasOtherHalf said:
And pimping their sales on his Twitter feed. I’m not sure where the idea he’s distancing himself came from?
Not that he gives a st but it became so tedious I stopped following him. "Please stop me from bidding on this amazing/ phenomenal/incredible (add any car)" is so insulting to the reader. He went dramatically down in my estimations and showed he'd sell his nan for some cash or exposure.
His denial to highlight obvious negatives, albeit with a positive spin if he likes, added to this. There was a manual csl conversion thing he just kept waxing lyrical about without actually acknowledging it will almost certainly prove a detriment to the final price when it was discussed on his twitter feed. He did the same with some awful 70's lowered mercedes thing. Who's he kidding? Like I said, insulting to ones intelligence.

LaurasOtherHalf

21,429 posts

195 months

Sunday 15th November 2020
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VonSenger said:
LaurasOtherHalf said:
And pimping their sales on his Twitter feed. I’m not sure where the idea he’s distancing himself came from?
Not that he gives a st but it became so tedious I stopped following him. "Please stop me from bidding on this amazing/ phenomenal/incredible (add any car)" is so insulting to the reader. He went dramatically down in my estimations and showed he'd sell his nan for some cash or exposure.
His denial to highlight obvious negatives, albeit with a positive spin if he likes, added to this. There was a manual csl conversion thing he just kept waxing lyrical about without actually acknowledging it will almost certainly prove a detriment to the final price when it was discussed on his twitter feed. He did the same with some awful 70's lowered mercedes thing. Who's he kidding? Like I said, insulting to ones intelligence.
It'll be his undoing like a lot of celebrities. Anyone in the public eye shouldn't be seen anywhere near this cesspool. To be fair, he didn't come across well on PH when he used to post on here, he got into a spat with me and started spouting all manner of ste.

I suppose we all might be guilty of that though. I first met him long before any of all that at a Porsche launch for the 997 GT3rs and he was a pleasant and enthusiastic as could be.

He used to do some of the same track days as us but I keep my distance knowing we called each other a tt on the internet hehe

will_

6,027 posts

202 months

Sunday 15th November 2020
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SFTWend said:
Personally I think the level of transparency offered by The Market is exceptional and they should be applauded for it.

For a buyer they stand head and shoulders above any other UK platform and I hope they prosper.
Agreed. The problem is that as a seller CC is more attractive.

I've said it before, but if you mix The Market's approach with a fee for the buyer and not the seller that would probably be the sweet spot.

I really like The Market.

Bo_apex

2,506 posts

217 months

Monday 16th November 2020
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LaurasOtherHalf said:
It'll be his undoing like a lot of celebrities. Anyone in the public eye shouldn't be seen anywhere near this cesspool. To be fair, he didn't come across well on PH when he used to post on here, he got into a spat with me and started spouting all manner of ste.

I suppose we all might be guilty of that though. I first met him long before any of all that at a Porsche launch for the 997 GT3rs and he was a pleasant and enthusiastic as could be.

He used to do some of the same track days as us but I keep my distance knowing we called each other a tt on the internet hehe
The Internet can bring out the best in people hehe
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