Collecting Cars auction results

Collecting Cars auction results

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Algarve

2,034 posts

44 months

Thursday 21st January
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CarreraLightweightRacing said:
Both buyer and seller have some risk for sure but it is impossible to completely remove risk for any transaction in life.
It seems the risk is awfully lopsided right now though. If you misrepresent your car and I bid it up to £100k I'm going to have to lose £6000 to walk away from the deal while CC say "tough luck, see T&Cs"

jeremyc

19,208 posts

247 months

Thursday 21st January
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Can we get back to discussing the cars for sale on the site and the auction results please.

There's too many "facts" being quoted here that may, or may not, be true. Many of the comments being made breach this site's "no naming & shaming" rules and are potentially defamatory.

Get back on track, or this thread may have to be locked or removed.

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Drclarke

1,075 posts

136 months

Thursday 21st January
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I cannot see that anyone is naming and shaming, their business model is being discussed nothing more.

But it would be a shame for the thread to be closed down so others can’t see what’s been stated (as fact)

anonymous-user

17 months

Thursday 21st January
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jeremyc said:
Can we get back to discussing the cars for sale on the site and the auction results please.

There's too many "facts" being quoted here that may, or may not, be true. Many of the comments being made breach this site's "no naming & shaming" rules and are potentially defamatory.

Get back on track, or this thread may have to be locked or removed.

(Moderator)
Is there a reason why it hasn't been removed already? It is promoting a competing service to the PH classifieds / those that pay to advertise.

jeremyc

19,208 posts

247 months

Thursday 21st January
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MAC 720S said:
Is there a reason why it hasn't been removed already? It is promoting a competing service to the PH classifieds / those that pay to advertise.
PH allows discussion on the forums of eBay, Amazon, AutoTrader, car dealerships and other services competitive to the classifieds section. This is no different, providing that the discussion of CC and any of the other services do not break the forum rules.

Rocketreid

378 posts

35 months

Thursday 21st January
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Drclarke said:
I cannot see that anyone is naming and shaming, their business model is being discussed nothing more.

But it would be a shame for the thread to be closed down so others can’t see what’s been stated (as fact)
Quite correct

I fully understand if remarks are personal but CC are a business and by discussing their terms of business which some may disagree with is not defamatory.

It is a shame if free speech in the public interest is not respected on forums like PH.


jeremyc

19,208 posts

247 months

Thursday 21st January
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Rocketreid said:
It is a shame if free speech in the public interest is not respected on forums like PH.
A reminder why PH doesn't allow naming & shaming.

Now, back to the cars in the auction or the thread gets it. wink

Mezzanine

5,801 posts

182 months

Thursday 21st January
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Someone has been sending strongly worded emails perhaps?!

fridaypassion

5,405 posts

191 months

Thursday 21st January
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bennno said:
Bit naive that. The majority of valuable cars at BCA have been inspected and tested by them and carry a 48 hour rejection policy, during which time you get your money back or undisclosed faults resolved.

Collecting cars is much closer in principle to eBay, but with the eBay writing the item descriptions without viewing the car and taking a cut on completion and leaving buyer and seller to sort the rest afterwards.

It’s a seemingly confused platform in terms of trade use. Zippy runs Targa Florio cars but appears to be banging out any unwanted px cars on the platform to the general public. CC really need to give this aspect some thought.

Moderator edit: cut out the potentially defamatory comments please
Oh Benno to be in such a fluffy bubble in which you live!

I've actually taken 5 full minutes to stop laughing at your comments regarding BCA.

For your information a few examples of what goes on behind closed doors:

People buying none runners advertised as assured
Clocked cars
Written off cars advertised as HPI clear
Cars appearing on dealer accounts that they haven't even bid on
Cars with very obvious faults such as gearboxes knackered or engines knocking
Dashboards lit up like Christmas trees on collection but not mentioned on assured reports
undeclared paint issues/poor repairs

In all of these examples dealers have had to pay for the cars with no negotiation or recourse. Its an area that is in dire need of some kind of legislation. There is no 48 hour handback! Fantasy!

So when I see the frankly pathetic criticisms leveled at CC you can see why I hold the informed opinions I do. This is the crap that trade people have to put up with.

Three further pertinent facts

I do not buy cars from auction

Unlike 99% of the poster on here I HAVE USED CC!

I should be anti CC as effectively they are competition to me but I just like the business model I like how they have set it up and the way they have managed to promote it and I wish them well in what they do.

Edited by fridaypassion on Thursday 21st January 19:26

MDMA .

6,117 posts

64 months

Thursday 21st January
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Mezzanine said:
Someone has been sending strongly worded emails perhaps?!
Doubt they'd want it to get pulled though wink

Rocketreid

378 posts

35 months

Thursday 21st January
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fridaypassion said:
Oh Benno to be in such a fluffy bubble in which you live!

I've actually taken 5 full minutes to stop laughing at your comments regarding BCA.

For your information a few examples of what goes on behind closed doors:

People buying none runners advertised as assured
Clocked cars
Written off cars advertised as HPI clear
Cars appearing on dealer accounts that they haven't even bid on
Cars with very obvious faults such as gearboxes knackered or engines knocking
Dashboards lit up like Christmas trees on collection but not mentioned on assured reports
undeclared paint issues/poor repairs

In all of these examples dealers have had to pay for the cars with no negotiation or recourse. Its an area that is in dire need of some kind of legislation. There is no 48 hour handback! Fantasy!

So when I see the frankly pathetic criticisms leveled at CC you can see why I hold the informed opinions I do. This is the crap that trade people have to put up with.

Three further pertinent facts

I do not buy cars from auction

Unlike 99% of the poster on here I HAVE USED CC!

I should be anti CC as effectively they are competition to me but I just like the business model I like how they have set it up and the way they have managed to promote it and I wish them well in what they do.

Edited by fridaypassion on Thursday 21st January 19:26
Not sure what you know or have read but there are a lot of very dissatisfied CC buyers and sellers . Best take a look at social media for confirmation of these unhappy folks

bennno

7,026 posts

232 months

Thursday 21st January
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fridaypassion said:
bennno said:
Bit naive that. The majority of valuable cars at BCA have been inspected and tested by them and carry a 48 hour rejection policy, during which time you get your money back or undisclosed faults resolved.

Collecting cars is much closer in principle to eBay, but with the eBay writing the item descriptions without viewing the car and taking a cut on completion and leaving buyer and seller to sort the rest afterwards.

It’s a seemingly confused platform in terms of trade use. Zippy runs Targa Florio cars but appears to be banging out any unwanted px cars on the platform to the general public. CC really need to give this aspect some thought.

Moderator edit: cut out the potentially defamatory comments please
Oh Benno to be in such a fluffy bubble in which you live!

I've actually taken 5 full minutes to stop laughing at your comments regarding BCA.

For your information a few examples of what goes on behind closed doors:

People buying none runners advertised as assured
Clocked cars
Written off cars advertised as HPI clear
Cars appearing on dealer accounts that they haven't even bid on
Cars with very obvious faults such as gearboxes knackered or engines knocking
Dashboards lit up like Christmas trees on collection but not mentioned on assured reports
undeclared paint issues/poor repairs

In all of these examples dealers have had to pay for the cars with no negotiation or recourse. Its an area that is in dire need of some kind of legislation. There is no 48 hour handback! Fantasy!

So when I see the frankly pathetic criticisms leveled at CC you can see why I hold the informed opinions I do. This is the crap that trade people have to put up with.

Three further pertinent facts

I do not buy cars from auction

Unlike 99% of the poster on here I HAVE USED CC!

I should be anti CC as effectively they are competition to me but I just like the business model I like how they have set it up and the way they have managed to promote it and I wish them well in what they do.

Edited by fridaypassion on Thursday 21st January 19:26
Ok, i have bought cars from BCA ranging from 5-25k and had a good experience every time. You need to be selective what you are buying and who is selling it.

To be clear I have 'sold' through CC and had a bad experience as I already detailed below. Vanishing Chinese buyer.

I tried to buy through CC and bid 52k on a car but wouldn't go higher as the seller wanted trade retail price, was a well known trader, but was selling this vehicle privately and without warranty.

I think what they are doing is good, but the website terms only bind the buyer in to paying their fee and nothing more and its effectively a private sale, with some traders also selling vehicles with no warranty.

kevinon

240 posts

23 months

Thursday 21st January
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It feels like a good thread to me - where else would petrol heads get info on new ways of buying /selling cars.

The fact that some buyers may be unsure if they are buying from an eBAY - (advertising site), or a traditional auction house (who warrant their description) is proof that it's a useful exchange. I'm not seeing naming and shaming of a company; moree exploring the concept.

Drclarke

1,075 posts

136 months

Thursday 21st January
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fridaypassion said:
Oh Benno to be in such a fluffy bubble in which you live!

I've actually taken 5 full minutes to stop laughing at your comments regarding BCA.

For your information a few examples of what goes on behind closed doors:

People buying none runners advertised as assured
Clocked cars
Written off cars advertised as HPI clear
Cars appearing on dealer accounts that they haven't even bid on
Cars with very obvious faults such as gearboxes knackered or engines knocking
Dashboards lit up like Christmas trees on collection but not mentioned on assured reports
undeclared paint issues/poor repairs

In all of these examples dealers have had to pay for the cars with no negotiation or recourse. Its an area that is in dire need of some kind of legislation. There is no 48 hour handback! Fantasy!

So when I see the frankly pathetic criticisms leveled at CC you can see why I hold the informed opinions I do. This is the crap that trade people have to put up with.

Three further pertinent facts

I do not buy cars from auction

Unlike 99% of the poster on here I HAVE USED CC!

I should be anti CC as effectively they are competition to me but I just like the business model I like how they have set it up and the way they have managed to promote it and I wish them well in what they do.

Edited by fridaypassion on Thursday 21st January 19:26
Your post lost all its credibility when you said “I’ve actually taken five full minutes to stop laughing”

What next, did you actually spit your coffee over your keyboard?



anonymous-user

17 months

Thursday 21st January
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jeremyc said:
H allows discussion on the forums of eBay, Amazon, AutoTrader, car dealerships and other services competitive to the classifieds section. This is no different, providing that the discussion of CC and any of the other services do not break the forum rules.
108 pages of it tho, dedicated to one provider? PH is probably the best free promotional tool they have got - except Chris Harris. I'd never heard of CC until it appeared on here. Anyway, I just thought it was a bit contradictory that people are being pulled up on various breaches of the 'naming and shaming' rules, when pretty much a large quantity of this thread contains inviduals cross-referencing their own / friends vehicles for sale on CC - in breach of various PH rules - yet the thread still continues.

Rocketreid

378 posts

35 months

Thursday 21st January
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MAC 720S said:
108 pages of it tho, dedicated to one provider? PH is probably the best free promotional tool they have got - except Chris Harris. I'd never heard of CC until it appeared on here. Anyway, I just thought it was a bit contradictory that people are being pulled up on various breaches of the 'naming and shaming' rules, when pretty much a large quantity of this thread contains inviduals cross-referencing their own / friends vehicles for sale on CC - in breach of various PH rules - yet the thread still continues.
I agree MAC,

IF PH are allowing CC to indirectly publicise and advertise there site, then it is only proper that folks with a bad experience of them have a voice also.

jeremyc

19,208 posts

247 months

Thursday 21st January
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Rocketreid said:
I agree MAC,

IF PH are allowing CC to indirectly publicise and advertise there site, then it is only proper that folks with a bad experience of them have a voice also.
No, it isn't.

fridaypassion

5,405 posts

191 months

Thursday 21st January
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Drclarke said:
Your post lost all its credibility when you said “I’ve actually taken five full minutes to stop laughing”

What next, did you actually spit your coffee over your keyboard?
If you had any idea of how poorly regarded BCA are within the trade you would realise this is actually not an exaggeration of any kind. To compare CC to BCA and the level of malpractice is totally unfair.

Benno flukes one single purchase from BCA and thinks he's Jack Tordoff wink the guys that are doing serious volume with the likes of BCA get treated like dirt.

anonymous-user

17 months

Thursday 21st January
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fridaypassion said:
If you had any idea of how poorly regarded BCA are within the trade you would realise this is actually not an exaggeration of any kind. To compare CC to BCA and the level of malpractice is totally unfair.

Benno flukes one single purchase from BCA and thinks he's Jack Tordoff wink the guys that are doing serious volume with the likes of BCA get treated like dirt.
Not having a dig at you, but you are naming and shaming BCA which is in breach of PH rules. How come you aren't being warned?

Stryke

607 posts

125 months

Thursday 21st January
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jeremyc said:
o, it isn't.
Is there any reason why we are not allowed to discuss the business model?


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