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fridaypassion said:
Oh Benno to be in such a fluffy bubble in which you live!
I've actually taken 5 full minutes to stop laughing at your comments regarding BCA.
For your information a few examples of what goes on behind closed doors:
People buying none runners advertised as assured
Clocked cars
Written off cars advertised as HPI clear
Cars appearing on dealer accounts that they haven't even bid on
Cars with very obvious faults such as gearboxes knackered or engines knocking
Dashboards lit up like Christmas trees on collection but not mentioned on assured reports
undeclared paint issues/poor repairs
In all of these examples dealers have had to pay for the cars with no negotiation or recourse. Its an area that is in dire need of some kind of legislation. There is no 48 hour handback! Fantasy!
So when I see the frankly pathetic criticisms leveled at CC you can see why I hold the informed opinions I do. This is the crap that trade people have to put up with.
Three further pertinent facts
I do not buy cars from auction
Unlike 99% of the poster on here I HAVE USED CC!
I should be anti CC as effectively they are competition to me but I just like the business model I like how they have set it up and the way they have managed to promote it and I wish them well in what they do.
Not sure what you know or have read but there are a lot of very dissatisfied CC buyers and sellers . Best take a look at social media for confirmation of these unhappy folks I've actually taken 5 full minutes to stop laughing at your comments regarding BCA.
For your information a few examples of what goes on behind closed doors:
People buying none runners advertised as assured
Clocked cars
Written off cars advertised as HPI clear
Cars appearing on dealer accounts that they haven't even bid on
Cars with very obvious faults such as gearboxes knackered or engines knocking
Dashboards lit up like Christmas trees on collection but not mentioned on assured reports
undeclared paint issues/poor repairs
In all of these examples dealers have had to pay for the cars with no negotiation or recourse. Its an area that is in dire need of some kind of legislation. There is no 48 hour handback! Fantasy!
So when I see the frankly pathetic criticisms leveled at CC you can see why I hold the informed opinions I do. This is the crap that trade people have to put up with.
Three further pertinent facts
I do not buy cars from auction
Unlike 99% of the poster on here I HAVE USED CC!
I should be anti CC as effectively they are competition to me but I just like the business model I like how they have set it up and the way they have managed to promote it and I wish them well in what they do.
Edited by fridaypassion on Thursday 21st January 19:26
fridaypassion said:
bennno said:
Bit naive that. The majority of valuable cars at BCA have been inspected and tested by them and carry a 48 hour rejection policy, during which time you get your money back or undisclosed faults resolved.
Collecting cars is much closer in principle to eBay, but with the eBay writing the item descriptions without viewing the car and taking a cut on completion and leaving buyer and seller to sort the rest afterwards.
It’s a seemingly confused platform in terms of trade use. Zippy runs Targa Florio cars but appears to be banging out any unwanted px cars on the platform to the general public. CC really need to give this aspect some thought.
Oh Benno to be in such a fluffy bubble in which you live!Collecting cars is much closer in principle to eBay, but with the eBay writing the item descriptions without viewing the car and taking a cut on completion and leaving buyer and seller to sort the rest afterwards.
It’s a seemingly confused platform in terms of trade use. Zippy runs Targa Florio cars but appears to be banging out any unwanted px cars on the platform to the general public. CC really need to give this aspect some thought.
Moderator edit: cut out the potentially defamatory comments please
I've actually taken 5 full minutes to stop laughing at your comments regarding BCA.
For your information a few examples of what goes on behind closed doors:
People buying none runners advertised as assured
Clocked cars
Written off cars advertised as HPI clear
Cars appearing on dealer accounts that they haven't even bid on
Cars with very obvious faults such as gearboxes knackered or engines knocking
Dashboards lit up like Christmas trees on collection but not mentioned on assured reports
undeclared paint issues/poor repairs
In all of these examples dealers have had to pay for the cars with no negotiation or recourse. Its an area that is in dire need of some kind of legislation. There is no 48 hour handback! Fantasy!
So when I see the frankly pathetic criticisms leveled at CC you can see why I hold the informed opinions I do. This is the crap that trade people have to put up with.
Three further pertinent facts
I do not buy cars from auction
Unlike 99% of the poster on here I HAVE USED CC!
I should be anti CC as effectively they are competition to me but I just like the business model I like how they have set it up and the way they have managed to promote it and I wish them well in what they do.
Edited by fridaypassion on Thursday 21st January 19:26
To be clear I have 'sold' through CC and had a bad experience as I already detailed below. Vanishing Chinese buyer.
I tried to buy through CC and bid 52k on a car but wouldn't go higher as the seller wanted trade retail price, was a well known trader, but was selling this vehicle privately and without warranty.
I think what they are doing is good, but the website terms only bind the buyer in to paying their fee and nothing more and its effectively a private sale, with some traders also selling vehicles with no warranty.
It feels like a good thread to me - where else would petrol heads get info on new ways of buying /selling cars.
The fact that some buyers may be unsure if they are buying from an eBAY - (advertising site), or a traditional auction house (who warrant their description) is proof that it's a useful exchange. I'm not seeing naming and shaming of a company; moree exploring the concept.
The fact that some buyers may be unsure if they are buying from an eBAY - (advertising site), or a traditional auction house (who warrant their description) is proof that it's a useful exchange. I'm not seeing naming and shaming of a company; moree exploring the concept.
fridaypassion said:
Oh Benno to be in such a fluffy bubble in which you live!
I've actually taken 5 full minutes to stop laughing at your comments regarding BCA.
For your information a few examples of what goes on behind closed doors:
People buying none runners advertised as assured
Clocked cars
Written off cars advertised as HPI clear
Cars appearing on dealer accounts that they haven't even bid on
Cars with very obvious faults such as gearboxes knackered or engines knocking
Dashboards lit up like Christmas trees on collection but not mentioned on assured reports
undeclared paint issues/poor repairs
In all of these examples dealers have had to pay for the cars with no negotiation or recourse. Its an area that is in dire need of some kind of legislation. There is no 48 hour handback! Fantasy!
So when I see the frankly pathetic criticisms leveled at CC you can see why I hold the informed opinions I do. This is the crap that trade people have to put up with.
Three further pertinent facts
I do not buy cars from auction
Unlike 99% of the poster on here I HAVE USED CC!
I should be anti CC as effectively they are competition to me but I just like the business model I like how they have set it up and the way they have managed to promote it and I wish them well in what they do.
Your post lost all its credibility when you said “I’ve actually taken five full minutes to stop laughing”I've actually taken 5 full minutes to stop laughing at your comments regarding BCA.
For your information a few examples of what goes on behind closed doors:
People buying none runners advertised as assured
Clocked cars
Written off cars advertised as HPI clear
Cars appearing on dealer accounts that they haven't even bid on
Cars with very obvious faults such as gearboxes knackered or engines knocking
Dashboards lit up like Christmas trees on collection but not mentioned on assured reports
undeclared paint issues/poor repairs
In all of these examples dealers have had to pay for the cars with no negotiation or recourse. Its an area that is in dire need of some kind of legislation. There is no 48 hour handback! Fantasy!
So when I see the frankly pathetic criticisms leveled at CC you can see why I hold the informed opinions I do. This is the crap that trade people have to put up with.
Three further pertinent facts
I do not buy cars from auction
Unlike 99% of the poster on here I HAVE USED CC!
I should be anti CC as effectively they are competition to me but I just like the business model I like how they have set it up and the way they have managed to promote it and I wish them well in what they do.
Edited by fridaypassion on Thursday 21st January 19:26
What next, did you actually spit your coffee over your keyboard?
jeremyc said:
H allows discussion on the forums of eBay, Amazon, AutoTrader, car dealerships and other services competitive to the classifieds section. This is no different, providing that the discussion of CC and any of the other services do not break the forum rules.
108 pages of it tho, dedicated to one provider? PH is probably the best free promotional tool they have got - except Chris Harris. I'd never heard of CC until it appeared on here. Anyway, I just thought it was a bit contradictory that people are being pulled up on various breaches of the 'naming and shaming' rules, when pretty much a large quantity of this thread contains inviduals cross-referencing their own / friends vehicles for sale on CC - in breach of various PH rules - yet the thread still continues.MAC 720S said:
108 pages of it tho, dedicated to one provider? PH is probably the best free promotional tool they have got - except Chris Harris. I'd never heard of CC until it appeared on here. Anyway, I just thought it was a bit contradictory that people are being pulled up on various breaches of the 'naming and shaming' rules, when pretty much a large quantity of this thread contains inviduals cross-referencing their own / friends vehicles for sale on CC - in breach of various PH rules - yet the thread still continues.
I agree MAC,IF PH are allowing CC to indirectly publicise and advertise there site, then it is only proper that folks with a bad experience of them have a voice also.
Drclarke said:
Your post lost all its credibility when you said “I’ve actually taken five full minutes to stop laughing”
What next, did you actually spit your coffee over your keyboard?
If you had any idea of how poorly regarded BCA are within the trade you would realise this is actually not an exaggeration of any kind. To compare CC to BCA and the level of malpractice is totally unfair. What next, did you actually spit your coffee over your keyboard?
Benno flukes one single purchase from BCA and thinks he's Jack Tordoff
the guys that are doing serious volume with the likes of BCA get treated like dirt. fridaypassion said:
If you had any idea of how poorly regarded BCA are within the trade you would realise this is actually not an exaggeration of any kind. To compare CC to BCA and the level of malpractice is totally unfair.
Benno flukes one single purchase from BCA and thinks he's Jack Tordoff the guys that are doing serious volume with the likes of BCA get treated like dirt.
Not having a dig at you, but you are naming and shaming BCA which is in breach of PH rules. How come you aren't being warned?Benno flukes one single purchase from BCA and thinks he's Jack Tordoff
the guys that are doing serious volume with the likes of BCA get treated like dirt. fridaypassion said:
If you had any idea of how poorly regarded BCA are within the trade you would realise this is actually not an exaggeration of any kind. To compare CC to BCA and the level of malpractice is totally unfair.
Benno flukes one single purchase from BCA and thinks he's Jack Tordoff the guys that are doing serious volume with the likes of BCA get treated like dirt.
I’ve bought multiple cars there, direct from Mercedes, bmw, vw. Loads going through are tripe, you just need to be selective as much about the car you are buying as who is selling it. With BCA assured they test it and warrant it free of defects, you then have 48 hours to validate that and if there’s a problem you can either get it repaired at their cost or a refund. Nothing Jack Tordoff about it.Benno flukes one single purchase from BCA and thinks he's Jack Tordoff
the guys that are doing serious volume with the likes of BCA get treated like dirt. bennno said:
I’ve bought multiple cars there, direct from Mercedes, bmw, vw. Loads going through are tripe, you just need to be selective as much about the car you are buying as who is selling it. With BCA assured they test it and warrant it free of defects, you then have 48 hours to validate that and if there’s a problem you can either get it repaired at their cost or a refund. Nothing Jack Tordoff about it.
Categorically and I cannot stress this enough. You have been VERY lucky if you have not had any issues. You haven't been selective or clever you have just been fortunate. fridaypassion said:
bennno said:
Bit naive that. The majority of valuable cars at BCA have been inspected and tested by them and carry a 48 hour rejection policy, during which time you get your money back or undisclosed faults resolved.
Collecting cars is much closer in principle to eBay, but with the eBay writing the item descriptions without viewing the car and taking a cut on completion and leaving buyer and seller to sort the rest afterwards.
It’s a seemingly confused platform in terms of trade use. Zippy runs Targa Florio cars but appears to be banging out any unwanted px cars on the platform to the general public. CC really need to give this aspect some thought.
Oh Benno to be in such a fluffy bubble in which you live!Collecting cars is much closer in principle to eBay, but with the eBay writing the item descriptions without viewing the car and taking a cut on completion and leaving buyer and seller to sort the rest afterwards.
It’s a seemingly confused platform in terms of trade use. Zippy runs Targa Florio cars but appears to be banging out any unwanted px cars on the platform to the general public. CC really need to give this aspect some thought.
Moderator edit: cut out the potentially defamatory comments please
I've actually taken 5 full minutes to stop laughing at your comments regarding BCA.
For your information a few examples of what goes on behind closed doors:
People buying none runners advertised as assured
Clocked cars
Written off cars advertised as HPI clear
Cars appearing on dealer accounts that they haven't even bid on
Cars with very obvious faults such as gearboxes knackered or engines knocking
Dashboards lit up like Christmas trees on collection but not mentioned on assured reports
undeclared paint issues/poor repairs
In all of these examples dealers have had to pay for the cars with no negotiation or recourse. Its an area that is in dire need of some kind of legislation. There is no 48 hour handback! Fantasy!
So when I see the frankly pathetic criticisms leveled at CC you can see why I hold the informed opinions I do. This is the crap that trade people have to put up with.
Three further pertinent facts
I do not buy cars from auction
Unlike 99% of the poster on here I HAVE USED CC!
I should be anti CC as effectively they are competition to me but I just like the business model I like how they have set it up and the way they have managed to promote it and I wish them well in what they do.
OK remove the name BCA and replace it with a large vehicle remarketing outlet of your choice. I'm not saying they are all as bad but these kind of practices are pretty standard across almost all of these platforms. A true wild west. As I say the sector is in dire need of reform. Traders have wide shoulders and can accept a certain amount of hassle with a purchase but the issues raised with CC to date are toytown problems by comparison. As I say the consumer n the UK is now so cosseted that some of the sharp practice in the trade that we would shrug off is a very large issue to Mr public customer. My personal view is that buying from a source any other than trade seller is lunacy for any car due to these protections. The bigger issue is that people want the same thing cheaper but then cry when things go wrong. You cannot have it all.
I think owing to the way that CC operate as a consumer facing auction perhaps they should invest a bit on doing DD in the cars. They do not do this at the moment in my experience other than a HPI you could be buying anything and that is something that is wide open to abuse. Having a package for the seller that involves the photographer and a basic mechanical inspection would be ideal as it perfectly bridges the gap between a true auction (with NO comeback) and a retail sale. Maybe this is something they should look at.
They are still a young platform and I'm sure they are learning as they go. My main point is that they are being framed as bogey men when I think the way they have set it up is better than other auction platforms.
I think owing to the way that CC operate as a consumer facing auction perhaps they should invest a bit on doing DD in the cars. They do not do this at the moment in my experience other than a HPI you could be buying anything and that is something that is wide open to abuse. Having a package for the seller that involves the photographer and a basic mechanical inspection would be ideal as it perfectly bridges the gap between a true auction (with NO comeback) and a retail sale. Maybe this is something they should look at.
They are still a young platform and I'm sure they are learning as they go. My main point is that they are being framed as bogey men when I think the way they have set it up is better than other auction platforms.
MAC 720S said:
jeremyc said:
H allows discussion on the forums of eBay, Amazon, AutoTrader, car dealerships and other services competitive to the classifieds section. This is no different, providing that the discussion of CC and any of the other services do not break the forum rules.
108 pages of it tho, dedicated to one provider? PH is probably the best free promotional tool they have got - except Chris Harris. I'd never heard of CC until it appeared on here. Anyway, I just thought it was a bit contradictory that people are being pulled up on various breaches of the 'naming and shaming' rules, when pretty much a large quantity of this thread contains inviduals cross-referencing their own / friends vehicles for sale on CC - in breach of various PH rules - yet the thread still continues.I had a post pulled within about 30 mins of posting which was asking for a link to a car manual - I've yet to have a reply as to why it was pulled!
R8Reece said:
PH posting rules don't appear consistent.
I had a post pulled within about 30 mins of posting which was asking for a link to a car manual - I've yet to have a reply as to why it was pulled!
This thread is just one huge free advert for CC. If the subject matter was about AT, it would have been pulled by now. I had a post pulled within about 30 mins of posting which was asking for a link to a car manual - I've yet to have a reply as to why it was pulled!
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