Everyday ‘Supercar’
Discussion
Griffith4ever said:
PH User said:
most people don't think your R8 is a supercar.
"most do" actually. A quick google:Auto Express, "The Audi R8 is a true supercar that's devastatingly fast, yet it's as easy to drive as a TT. The Audi R8 is a supercar from a dying breed. ... But, while the 5.2-litre V10 is a focal point of the car, there's much more to the R8 than simply a big engine."
Drive tribe: "AUDI R8: THE PERFECT FIRST SUPERCAR
The R8 is the only supercar you should buy if it's your first time, here's why."
Top Gear, "Audi still makes a naturally-aspirated, fire-spitting mid-engined V10 supercar... that itself makes a really, really good noise."
Robb Report, "First Drive: Audi’s 2020 R8 V10 Performance Is a Supercar That Doubles as a Daily Driver"
Car and driver, "With Lambo underpinnings and a rip-roaring V-10 engine hidden beneath its understated body, the 2022 Audi R8 supercar flies below the radar"
I could go on. There are countless examples.
I'm not sure any owner cares what you think about it's supercar status. What is worth arguing is when those that either have a Fezza, Lambo etc dismiss the (often faster) Audi due to badge snobbery, or , those that don't have one and won't ever buy anything of any interest throw their "Clarkson-inspired" opinion in. FYI - he said he'll never own one bacause he'd rather spend £60 more on a Lambo as it's more visceral.
It's all a bit predictable really.
Griffith4ever said:
"most do" actually. A quick google:
Auto Express, "The Audi R8 is a true supercar that's devastatingly fast, yet it's as easy to drive as a TT. The Audi R8 is a supercar from a dying breed. ... But, while the 5.2-litre V10 is a focal point of the car, there's much more to the R8 than simply a big engine."
Drive tribe: "AUDI R8: THE PERFECT FIRST SUPERCAR
The R8 is the only supercar you should buy if it's your first time, here's why."
Top Gear, "Audi still makes a naturally-aspirated, fire-spitting mid-engined V10 supercar... that itself makes a really, really good noise."
Robb Report, "First Drive: Audi’s 2020 R8 V10 Performance Is a Supercar That Doubles as a Daily Driver"
Car and driver, "With Lambo underpinnings and a rip-roaring V-10 engine hidden beneath its understated body, the 2022 Audi R8 supercar flies below the radar"
I could go on. There are countless examples.
I'm not sure any owner cares what you think about it's supercar status. What is worth arguing is when those that either have a Fezza, Lambo etc dismiss the (often faster) Audi due to badge snobbery, or , those that don't have one and won't ever buy anything of any interest throw their "Clarkson-inspired" opinion in. FYI - he said he'll never own one bacause he'd rather spend £60 more on a Lambo as it's more visceral.
It's all a bit predictable really.
Maybe it is time for the R8 to be moved into the PH Supercar sub-forum? Auto Express, "The Audi R8 is a true supercar that's devastatingly fast, yet it's as easy to drive as a TT. The Audi R8 is a supercar from a dying breed. ... But, while the 5.2-litre V10 is a focal point of the car, there's much more to the R8 than simply a big engine."
Drive tribe: "AUDI R8: THE PERFECT FIRST SUPERCAR
The R8 is the only supercar you should buy if it's your first time, here's why."
Top Gear, "Audi still makes a naturally-aspirated, fire-spitting mid-engined V10 supercar... that itself makes a really, really good noise."
Robb Report, "First Drive: Audi’s 2020 R8 V10 Performance Is a Supercar That Doubles as a Daily Driver"
Car and driver, "With Lambo underpinnings and a rip-roaring V-10 engine hidden beneath its understated body, the 2022 Audi R8 supercar flies below the radar"
I could go on. There are countless examples.
I'm not sure any owner cares what you think about it's supercar status. What is worth arguing is when those that either have a Fezza, Lambo etc dismiss the (often faster) Audi due to badge snobbery, or , those that don't have one and won't ever buy anything of any interest throw their "Clarkson-inspired" opinion in. FYI - he said he'll never own one bacause he'd rather spend £60 more on a Lambo as it's more visceral.
It's all a bit predictable really.
lrdisco said:
Pretends they are a Supercar. What a special case you are.
So my personal opinion differs from yours and therefore you deem it relevant to dig out personal insults? lrdisco said:
I am not as special as you.
I'm not sure how you come to that conclusion, but whatever.lrdisco said:
I don’t pretend. So the badge is what makes a Supercar then?
No, 3rd time. Make sure you read carefully before unloading your personal insults to a public forum. The badge is part of what makes a "supercar" and there are several parts to be seen as a whole to make a "supercar" but its not just the badge. With me so far? In the vague hope you are, how common a car is also makes up one of those parts. The 911T & and a R8 fall short on this part/requirement/penis extension/ego. First post in this thread, second line "too many out there".
lrdisco said:
Ok let’s start with Jaguar XJ220 then BMW Z8, Alfa 8c, Mercedes’ SLR or SLS, Corvette ZR1.
Not one a Supercar in your view.
I'm not here to debate other cars and have absolutely no inclination to do so, I personally couldn't give two turds how other people perceive other make and models of cars and I certainly wouldn't go round throwing insults or try to convince people otherwise however if you are wanting my personal opinion then the XJ220, SLR and SLS could very well be considered a supercar based on them being rare. The Alpha, BMW & Vette I care not for.Not one a Supercar in your view.
Take the Porsche 918 for example, 100% supercar/hypercar whatever you want to call it, its not just about the badge.
Ask yourself this. Whilst there are plenty of people that do think say a 911T and a R8 are "supercars" there are also plenty of other people think/say they are not, can a supercar really be a supercar when its regularly debated? When people shout out Ferrari 488, Lamborghini Aventador or McLaren 650S 99% will instantly, without hesitation, reply "supercar", can you really say the same when only 30/40/50/60/70% would agree. "Supercars" imo are very clear cut, if you have warble on about it to try and justify it then well, its not.
Its been discussed/warbled on about to the death here. I certainly don't give a s
t about how others perceive my cars. Enjoy what you have for what it is and be done with it. Edited by DamanC on Sunday 31st October 19:39
Edited by DamanC on Sunday 31st October 19:40
Right then OP, ignoring the daft VAG tarts, welcome to my thread. Very few ppl use silly cars as their daily motor because they aren’t daft tts…fortunately for you I am a lot less smarter than your average bear.
What are we counting as a daily?
How many miles day/wk/yr?
Shopping trips?
Work car?
How much do you want to spend?
I used my Alfa 4C as my daily, 24, 000 miles/yr, did 60,000 over 3yrs till Covid.
So obviously I sold her and bought an F12. I’m typing this from Membury services on the M4, as I’ve used the F12 to leave the south west at silly o clock this morning on way to the office in Oxford. Which I’m back to doing every week. Yesterday she did the weekly shopping to the local farm shop and went to Waitrose.
I’ve doubled the miles on her from when I bought her in July. If I’m completely honest even I recognise I can’t keep doing this and I’ll probably add a PoS 3 series touring to the fleet for the crap work. But for now…F12 it is as the daily and I LOVE it. There is an innate pleasure in doing something as simple as driving to work and knowing that you are effectively in the biggest dog on the road. It’s very silly, immature and utterly childish I know.
Or you can drive an R8. And be an accountant.
ts…fortunately for you I am a lot less smarter than your average bear.What are we counting as a daily?
How many miles day/wk/yr?
Shopping trips?
Work car?
How much do you want to spend?
I used my Alfa 4C as my daily, 24, 000 miles/yr, did 60,000 over 3yrs till Covid.
So obviously I sold her and bought an F12. I’m typing this from Membury services on the M4, as I’ve used the F12 to leave the south west at silly o clock this morning on way to the office in Oxford. Which I’m back to doing every week. Yesterday she did the weekly shopping to the local farm shop and went to Waitrose.
I’ve doubled the miles on her from when I bought her in July. If I’m completely honest even I recognise I can’t keep doing this and I’ll probably add a PoS 3 series touring to the fleet for the crap work. But for now…F12 it is as the daily and I LOVE it. There is an innate pleasure in doing something as simple as driving to work and knowing that you are effectively in the biggest dog on the road. It’s very silly, immature and utterly childish I know.
Or you can drive an R8. And be an accountant.
DeejRC said:
Right then OP, ignoring the daft VAG tarts, welcome to my thread. Very few ppl use silly cars as their daily motor because they aren’t daft tts…fortunately for you I am a lot less smarter than your average bear.
What are we counting as a daily?
How many miles day/wk/yr?
Shopping trips?
Work car?
How much do you want to spend?
I used my Alfa 4C as my daily, 24, 000 miles/yr, did 60,000 over 3yrs till Covid.
So obviously I sold her and bought an F12. I’m typing this from Membury services on the M4, as I’ve used the F12 to leave the south west at silly o clock this morning on way to the office in Oxford. Which I’m back to doing every week. Yesterday she did the weekly shopping to the local farm shop and went to Waitrose.
I’ve doubled the miles on her from when I bought her in July. If I’m completely honest even I recognise I can’t keep doing this and I’ll probably add a PoS 3 series touring to the fleet for the crap work. But for now…F12 it is as the daily and I LOVE it. There is an innate pleasure in doing something as simple as driving to work and knowing that you are effectively in the biggest dog on the road. It’s very silly, immature and utterly childish I know.
Or you can drive an R8. And be an accountant.
This is an all time classic Pistonheads post, even by your lofty standards DeejRC ts…fortunately for you I am a lot less smarter than your average bear.What are we counting as a daily?
How many miles day/wk/yr?
Shopping trips?
Work car?
How much do you want to spend?
I used my Alfa 4C as my daily, 24, 000 miles/yr, did 60,000 over 3yrs till Covid.
So obviously I sold her and bought an F12. I’m typing this from Membury services on the M4, as I’ve used the F12 to leave the south west at silly o clock this morning on way to the office in Oxford. Which I’m back to doing every week. Yesterday she did the weekly shopping to the local farm shop and went to Waitrose.
I’ve doubled the miles on her from when I bought her in July. If I’m completely honest even I recognise I can’t keep doing this and I’ll probably add a PoS 3 series touring to the fleet for the crap work. But for now…F12 it is as the daily and I LOVE it. There is an innate pleasure in doing something as simple as driving to work and knowing that you are effectively in the biggest dog on the road. It’s very silly, immature and utterly childish I know.
Or you can drive an R8. And be an accountant.
Griffith4ever said:
It absolutely is.
https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/audi/r8
I mean honestly, you have THE same engine from the later Gallardos, and the Hurrican, same soundtrack, a mostly hand built car, incredible performance and handling. Heck, mine is 585 Bhp (more than the equivalent Gallardo) and the R-tronic is the gear box straight out of earlier Lambos - the E-gear in the Gallardo. The engine was famously detuned to avoid upsetting Lambo owners. It's an Audi-Lamborghini, A Lambo with much less dramatic styling. For me, it's a Lambo without the image problem - I'd own one happily in a city, but here in the Sout West I'd be the one Lambo around other than the occasional appearance by Peter Andre!
Without wanting to really get drawn into the argument, I think you have summed up for me why I don't see the R8 as a supercar. It's basically made out of bits of other cars, whereas in my opinion a supercar is a far more bespoke thing. I'm not saying I'm right, or that you are - it's a dispute that no one can ever win, but I think the R8 is less special by being made from the Lambo parts binhttps://www.autoexpress.co.uk/audi/r8
I mean honestly, you have THE same engine from the later Gallardos, and the Hurrican, same soundtrack, a mostly hand built car, incredible performance and handling. Heck, mine is 585 Bhp (more than the equivalent Gallardo) and the R-tronic is the gear box straight out of earlier Lambos - the E-gear in the Gallardo. The engine was famously detuned to avoid upsetting Lambo owners. It's an Audi-Lamborghini, A Lambo with much less dramatic styling. For me, it's a Lambo without the image problem - I'd own one happily in a city, but here in the Sout West I'd be the one Lambo around other than the occasional appearance by Peter Andre!
DamanC said:
lrdisco said:
Pretends they are a Supercar. What a special case you are.
So my personal opinion differs from yours and therefore you deem it relevant to dig out personal insults? lrdisco said:
I am not as special as you.
I'm not sure how you come to that conclusion, but whatever.lrdisco said:
I don’t pretend. So the badge is what makes a Supercar then?
No, 3rd time. Make sure you read carefully before unloading your personal insults to a public forum. The badge is part of what makes a "supercar" and there are several parts to be seen as a whole to make a "supercar" but its not just the badge. With me so far? In the vague hope you are, how common a car is also makes up one of those parts. The 911T & and a R8 fall short on this part/requirement/penis extension/ego. First post in this thread, second line "too many out there".
lrdisco said:
Ok let’s start with Jaguar XJ220 then BMW Z8, Alfa 8c, Mercedes’ SLR or SLS, Corvette ZR1.
Not one a Supercar in your view.
I'm not here to debate other cars and have absolutely no inclination to do so, I personally couldn't give two turds how other people perceive other make and models of cars and I certainly wouldn't go round throwing insults or try to convince people otherwise however if you are wanting my personal opinion then the XJ220, SLR and SLS could very well be considered a supercar based on them being rare. The Alpha, BMW & Vette I care not for.Not one a Supercar in your view.
Take the Porsche 918 for example, 100% supercar/hypercar whatever you want to call it, its not just about the badge.
Ask yourself this. Whilst there are plenty of people that do think say a 911T and a R8 are "supercars" there are also plenty of other people think/say they are not, can a supercar really be a supercar when its regularly debated? When people shout out Ferrari 488, Lamborghini Aventador or McLaren 650S 99% will instantly, without hesitation, reply "supercar", can you really say the same when only 30/40/50/60/70% would agree. "Supercars" imo are very clear cut, if you have warble on about it to try and justify it then well, its not.
Its been discussed/warbled on about to the death here. I certainly don't give a s
t about how others perceive my cars. Enjoy what you have for what it is and be done with it. Edited by DamanC on Sunday 31st October 19:39
Edited by DamanC on Sunday 31st October 19:40
After all the 911 suggestions and have to say the AMG GTC or R, all the 911 attributes but just that little more special, wouldn't call it or the 911 a supercar really but the AMG is more so i think, especially the GTR.
Edited by LeroyLoser on Monday 1st November 08:44
hucumber said:
Without wanting to really get drawn into the argument, I think you have summed up for me why I don't see the R8 as a supercar. It's basically made out of bits of other cars, whereas in my opinion a supercar is a far more bespoke thing. I'm not saying I'm right, or that you are - it's a dispute that no one can ever win, but I think the R8 is less special by being made from the Lambo parts bin
Since Audi own Lamborghini, you could argue that the lambo is made from the Audi parts bin. 
They’ve all got one thing in common = https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graziano_Trasmission...
PH User said:
Griffith4ever said:
PH User said:
most people don't think your R8 is a supercar.
"most do" actually. A quick google:Auto Express, "The Audi R8 is a true supercar that's devastatingly fast, yet it's as easy to drive as a TT. The Audi R8 is a supercar from a dying breed. ... But, while the 5.2-litre V10 is a focal point of the car, there's much more to the R8 than simply a big engine."
Drive tribe: "AUDI R8: THE PERFECT FIRST SUPERCAR
The R8 is the only supercar you should buy if it's your first time, here's why."
Top Gear, "Audi still makes a naturally-aspirated, fire-spitting mid-engined V10 supercar... that itself makes a really, really good noise."
Robb Report, "First Drive: Audi’s 2020 R8 V10 Performance Is a Supercar That Doubles as a Daily Driver"
Car and driver, "With Lambo underpinnings and a rip-roaring V-10 engine hidden beneath its understated body, the 2022 Audi R8 supercar flies below the radar"
I could go on. There are countless examples.
I'm not sure any owner cares what you think about it's supercar status. What is worth arguing is when those that either have a Fezza, Lambo etc dismiss the (often faster) Audi due to badge snobbery, or , those that don't have one and won't ever buy anything of any interest throw their "Clarkson-inspired" opinion in. FYI - he said he'll never own one bacause he'd rather spend £60 more on a Lambo as it's more visceral.
It's all a bit predictable really.
The general public I think would consider it a supercar. All be it maybe it a baby supercar?
Taffy66 said:
DeejRC said:
Right then OP, ignoring the daft VAG tarts, welcome to my thread. Very few ppl use silly cars as their daily motor because they aren’t daft tts…fortunately for you I am a lot less smarter than your average bear.
What are we counting as a daily?
How many miles day/wk/yr?
Shopping trips?
Work car?
How much do you want to spend?
I used my Alfa 4C as my daily, 24, 000 miles/yr, did 60,000 over 3yrs till Covid.
So obviously I sold her and bought an F12. I’m typing this from Membury services on the M4, as I’ve used the F12 to leave the south west at silly o clock this morning on way to the office in Oxford. Which I’m back to doing every week. Yesterday she did the weekly shopping to the local farm shop and went to Waitrose.
I’ve doubled the miles on her from when I bought her in July. If I’m completely honest even I recognise I can’t keep doing this and I’ll probably add a PoS 3 series touring to the fleet for the crap work. But for now…F12 it is as the daily and I LOVE it. There is an innate pleasure in doing something as simple as driving to work and knowing that you are effectively in the biggest dog on the road. It’s very silly, immature and utterly childish I know.
Or you can drive an R8. And be an accountant.
This is an all time classic Pistonheads post, even by your lofty standards DeejRC ts…fortunately for you I am a lot less smarter than your average bear.What are we counting as a daily?
How many miles day/wk/yr?
Shopping trips?
Work car?
How much do you want to spend?
I used my Alfa 4C as my daily, 24, 000 miles/yr, did 60,000 over 3yrs till Covid.
So obviously I sold her and bought an F12. I’m typing this from Membury services on the M4, as I’ve used the F12 to leave the south west at silly o clock this morning on way to the office in Oxford. Which I’m back to doing every week. Yesterday she did the weekly shopping to the local farm shop and went to Waitrose.
I’ve doubled the miles on her from when I bought her in July. If I’m completely honest even I recognise I can’t keep doing this and I’ll probably add a PoS 3 series touring to the fleet for the crap work. But for now…F12 it is as the daily and I LOVE it. There is an innate pleasure in doing something as simple as driving to work and knowing that you are effectively in the biggest dog on the road. It’s very silly, immature and utterly childish I know.
Or you can drive an R8. And be an accountant.
I was then going to reply that yes, yours was a bit of a lardy mare 
Anyway, I think you for your reply Sir and merely point you in the direction of WCZ’s post which is surely even more peak PH? Just buy unobtanium or spend min £190k on his daily!
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