Tracker fitted as part of pcp deal

Tracker fitted as part of pcp deal

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m4tti

5,146 posts

135 months

Sunday 31st July
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barriejames said:
To be honest I've already bent over to buy this car offered full asking it has to be re registered from isle of man in my time so I need vin insurance on collection so the tracker issue could be the final straw for me. I want the car but not enough to have to beg when I'm paying top dollar
Right now it’s a buyers market, there’s very few buyers, and there’ll be even less on the Isle of Man. It’ll almost have to be someone from the mainland.

If your paying full asking price then I would stand your ground, either they want to sell it or they don’t.

The only other way would be to look at an alternative way of financing it. Give them the cash up front for a couple of days until you have the tracker sorted, then take the finance.

I’m not sure any I looked at had trackers fitted Certainly not active one.. Not that sort of car really.

bennno

8,505 posts

249 months

Sunday 31st July
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barriejames said:
Non refundable deposit of 20% has anyone since time begun ever really done that? As for taking a hit yes I suspect it will but can anyone name a much safer place to sink your money into than a well sorted manual 360? The selling agent will not be open for discussion on thus so the best I can do is ask that he asks the owner if they will consider it,but its a weak chance
Presumably you aren’t financing the whole value of the car, I’m which case it’s pretty simple. I need car to have a tracker. At point of sale, so I’ll pay for the tracker and all of my deposit on say a Thursday, guy can fit tracker on the Thursday, finance gets released on Thursday to pay for it.

Sounds like you are having second thoughts?

barriejames

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838 posts

159 months

Sunday 31st July
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Hi no not having second thoughts I will buy this car but I'm a believer in things stacking up against something. I will buy the car this week if at all possible. The tracker is fitted by JBR nit by myself and is for their use only. I have discussed all scenarios with the broker and JBR will not negotiate. Yes the deposit is near 30% . I would wait for another car but its taken way over 5 years to locate this one in spec and colour I want. The car has a little infamy in that it was owned by a billionaire from new who is now on trial for murder!!!

andrew

9,539 posts

172 months

Sunday 31st July
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barriejames said:
Hi no not having second thoughts I will buy this car but I'm a believer in things stacking up against something. I will buy the car this week if at all possible. The tracker is fitted by JBR nit by myself and is for their use only. I have discussed all scenarios with the broker and JBR will not negotiate. Yes the deposit is near 30% . I would wait for another car but its taken way over 5 years to locate this one in spec and colour I want. The car has a little infamy in that it was owned by a billionaire from new who is now on trial for murder!!!
then you should be able to chip the price down :
it's not like they're going to able to use it wink

barriejames

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838 posts

159 months

Sunday 31st July
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Sadly thst was 4 owners ago!! I don't have any bargaining power here, I leave it and miss out on a lengthy search or I buy it at full asking no questions asked. There are 4 rhd manuals in UK in this colour so they don't come up often

Edited by barriejames on Sunday 31st July 17:00

m4tti

5,146 posts

135 months

Sunday 31st July
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barriejames said:
Sadly thst was 4 owners ago!! I don't have any bargaining power here, I leave it and miss out on a lengthy search or I buy it at full asking no questions asked. There are 4 rhd manuals in UK in this colour so they don't come up often

Edited by barriejames on Sunday 31st July 17:00
I think your over playing and over thinking the significance of the “yellow”. Even if there’s only four of them it’ll be an acquired taste when you come to sell. The balls still very firmly in your court. It’s easy to get “buyers fever”.

Every single dealer I spoke to regarding 360’s, said unless it’s Rossa/crema, expect to have it a while when you come to sell. Even rossa with a black interior doesn’t do so well. Just bare it in mind if you’re not planning on keeping it.


barriejames

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838 posts

159 months

Sunday 31st July
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I'd normally agree but I've had 2 yellow 911s one had 300 plus calls and the other sold first day. So for me yellow has always been lucky for resale. I fully expect dealers to say that, until they have on to shift. The recent one at Bells sport flew away at 80k. But yes I agree they all told me the same, especially the previous porsche dealers.

m4tti

5,146 posts

135 months

Sunday 31st July
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They’re selling so well the yellow f1 you linked to is now going to auction hehe

m4tti

5,146 posts

135 months

Sunday 31st July
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barriejames said:
I dont disagree I didn't know that? its an f1 box with high clutch wear so not totally comparable but I hear what you're saying. you're right I've seen some hang around and other fly away. Also that's 14k cheaper so maybe I am over paying to get what I want, but don't we all at times? Plus that dealer still.owes me my deposit back and refusing to answer emails so good luck to anyone who buys from them!!!
If you’re paying in the region of 75k, and your financing it, unseen... I’d tread very carefully.

This isn’t like the r8, Porsche or mclaren with a queue of people looking to buy one.

I’m betting the F1 with high clutch wear will go for 52k

barriejames

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838 posts

159 months

Sunday 31st July
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I agree its less than that figure but the yellow f1 was around 56k at the dealers so I think you are right. I've not seen many manual spiders with impeccable history and provenance for much under 65, but I could be wrong. I've done all the homework I can before purchase and think the dealer has just plonked 5k on for his trouble selling it

Stryke

623 posts

142 months

Monday 1st August
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Easy solution, dump this finance company who seem a nightmare to deal with and go with someone who doesn't make the purchase of your DREAM car so stressful.


barriejames

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838 posts

159 months

Monday 1st August
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Yes I think that's plan number 1 to get honest it just means submitting everything all over again and another week etc

JimmyConwayNW

2,700 posts

105 months

Monday 1st August
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Stryke said:
Easy solution, dump this finance company who seem a nightmare to deal with and go with someone who doesn't make the purchase of your DREAM car so stressful.
I am a dealer. I don't really bother with the whole SOR stuff and prefer to buy my own stock. Either way, JBR have done everything bar fit the tracker. Once tracker fitted they will pay out. The dealer should just say yes, its a non issue. The SOR client gets paid, they cream their profit off the top and the OP gets his car.

Don't see any reason any professional outfit should make the purchase of dream car so difficult.

SteveStrange

536 posts

193 months

Monday 1st August
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JimmyConwayNW said:
Stryke said:
Easy solution, dump this finance company who seem a nightmare to deal with and go with someone who doesn't make the purchase of your DREAM car so stressful.
I am a dealer. I don't really bother with the whole SOR stuff and prefer to buy my own stock. Either way, JBR have done everything bar fit the tracker. Once tracker fitted they will pay out. The dealer should just say yes, its a non issue. The SOR client gets paid, they cream their profit off the top and the OP gets his car.

Don't see any reason any professional outfit should make the purchase of dream car so difficult.
Their money, their rules. Don't want to play by their rules, then find the money another way, surely?

barriejames

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838 posts

159 months

Monday 1st August
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JimmyConwayNW said:
I've bought many cars today I've virtually been insulted by the seller who says why do I need finance on such a cheap car!!!


I am a dealer. I don't really bother with the whole SOR stuff and prefer to buy my own stock. Either way, JBR have done everything bar fit the tracker. Once tracker fitted they will pay out. The dealer should just say yes, its a non issue. The SOR client gets paid, they cream their profit off the top and the OP gets his car.

Don't see any reason any professional outfit should make the purchase of dream car so difficult.

JimmyConwayNW

2,700 posts

105 months

Tuesday 2nd August
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SteveStrange said:
Their money, their rules. Don't want to play by their rules, then find the money another way, surely?
If you sell cars, its hardly a massive issue someone wants to finance. If a customer PITA before sale they tend to be worse after.

If a dealer a PITA before sale....

Bo_apex

1,732 posts

198 months

Tuesday 2nd August
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SteveStrange said:
Their money, their rules. Don't want to play by their rules, then find the money another way, surely?
agree, cash is king. Avoids monkey business and wasting valuable time




bennno

8,505 posts

249 months

Tuesday 2nd August
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Bo_apex said:
SteveStrange said:
Their money, their rules. Don't want to play by their rules, then find the money another way, surely?
agree, cash is king. Avoids monkey business and wasting valuable time
Vendor gets cash either way……

barriejames

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838 posts

159 months

Tuesday 2nd August
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I finally got it resolved but what a fight its been. I think both parties now agreed seller and buyer, but to be honest I had to put serious effort and time in to make it happen. So barring any other issues its on as they have agreed to fit tracker after payment made

Bo_apex

1,732 posts

198 months

Tuesday 2nd August
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bennno said:
Bo_apex said:
SteveStrange said:
Their money, their rules. Don't want to play by their rules, then find the money another way, surely?
agree, cash is king. Avoids monkey business and wasting valuable time
Vendor gets cash either way……
I was talking about buyer using cash, obvs