High Mileage Supercars/Keepers
Discussion
Important to say I didn’t drive all of those miles - I reckon I did half. As said in the vid a lot of people drove the car - about 8000 -on various U.K. circuits over 6-8 years.
In the third vid on the Drivers Keepers channel I’ll discuss the mileage and the much discussed MOT mileage history!
To preempt the questions it jumps hugely one year as I added back on the mileage (once back to road spec) I took off it during its 6/7 years living on a track. At already 117,000 miles in 2006/7 from memory, we’d be getting complaints galore and having to give refunds from people saying it was tired etc hence this decision.
Right thing to do adding back on what got taken off but it does look as though it went to the moon and back in one year!
In the third vid on the Drivers Keepers channel I’ll discuss the mileage and the much discussed MOT mileage history!
To preempt the questions it jumps hugely one year as I added back on the mileage (once back to road spec) I took off it during its 6/7 years living on a track. At already 117,000 miles in 2006/7 from memory, we’d be getting complaints galore and having to give refunds from people saying it was tired etc hence this decision.
Right thing to do adding back on what got taken off but it does look as though it went to the moon and back in one year!
Loving this thread and looking forward to the YouTube channel.
Not that I think many would consider it a supercar on here but my 996 GT3 spent most of its life on track and racked up 50,000 miles. Several seasons of that in club racing which tends to be harder on the car than track days.
Sadly sold a couple of years ago after 17 years of ownership.
Not that I think many would consider it a supercar on here but my 996 GT3 spent most of its life on track and racked up 50,000 miles. Several seasons of that in club racing which tends to be harder on the car than track days.
Sadly sold a couple of years ago after 17 years of ownership.
Just shy of 107,000 miles since new 2007 in Trigger's broom. Full send via Muriel @ Porsche Group Operations and Nine Excellence.
When delivered in 2007.
After Ken and team at 9e in Horley spiced up to 700bhp in 2014 when I let Porsche warranty lapse after blowing up first engine at 59000 miles.
After Muriel and team at Porsche Group Ops, Reading tasked with restomodding to Minty spec in 2022 post an off slowing down on air strip top speed run from GPS verified 215mph in 2018 and tasking Rodney and Delboy Trotter Bodyshop on The Nelson Mandela Estate in St Mary's Lane Slough to do their best to restore to concours twice and failing miserably twice. I can laugh at those muppets now dear me they were awful
I enjoyed the vlog and 300,000 miles in a Murci with 140,000 of those miles by 8000 other drivers is the stuff of legend
I'lll be buried in Minty
When delivered in 2007.
After Ken and team at 9e in Horley spiced up to 700bhp in 2014 when I let Porsche warranty lapse after blowing up first engine at 59000 miles.
After Muriel and team at Porsche Group Ops, Reading tasked with restomodding to Minty spec in 2022 post an off slowing down on air strip top speed run from GPS verified 215mph in 2018 and tasking Rodney and Delboy Trotter Bodyshop on The Nelson Mandela Estate in St Mary's Lane Slough to do their best to restore to concours twice and failing miserably twice. I can laugh at those muppets now dear me they were awful
I enjoyed the vlog and 300,000 miles in a Murci with 140,000 of those miles by 8000 other drivers is the stuff of legend
I'lll be buried in Minty
135k ish but the engine has gone about 4k and 75% more power than it had from new. Used and used hard. 2nd owner, every receipt and invoice from new 
I’d say the same about the 911 turbo it’s a super car not a supercar.
I’ve only ever had one serious off on road and it was in a Pug GTI aged 18. How I’m still here after that off I’ll never know. Used up one my 9 lives that day and it sobered me up on road
Fantastic super hatch the Pug GTI best ever hot hatch and I’ve had a few. However for balance I have not driven an Integrale.
I’ve only ever had one serious off on road and it was in a Pug GTI aged 18. How I’m still here after that off I’ll never know. Used up one my 9 lives that day and it sobered me up on road
Fantastic super hatch the Pug GTI best ever hot hatch and I’ve had a few. However for balance I have not driven an Integrale.
Not a supercar but may be if interest to thread readers -
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
poppopbangbang said:
Posting after being bugged to!
So lets cut to the chase:
Original IMS, original engine, original gearbox.
Built for commuting across Europe and the top end of Africa at speed it can carry 96L of fuel, generate it's own 240V mains supply, has three GPS receivers and one GLONASS receiver, a sat phone, telemetry, remote diagnostics, it's own specific lightweight Facom tool kit & spares package, 48hour emergency food and water, holds 10L of engine oil, can wade 0.5M of water, has BS5051 spec seal sealing tyres along with TPMS, a lot of underbody protection and a Tomtom!
It can also give quite a reasonable account of itself around a circuit and is capable of over 420 miles range at a 125mph cruise.
Spiny GoPro Video
Mechanically the car is quite different to a standard narrow body C4 (which it started out as). Brakes are 350mm front with Brembo 6 Piston calipers, rears are 330mm with what were the original front calipers. Master cylinder is larger accordingly and the ABS & PSM have a none standard calibration to suit. Dampers are Ohlins and are essentially a modified version of their 996 Turbo R&T kit with damper valving and spring rates specific to this car along with redesigned lower and upper mounts to suit. Front uprights are modified to carry a slightly different and much strong wheel bearing along with the brake caliper mounts. Top mounts are all sphericals and specific to the car/Ohlins damper package. Lots of other bits are on spherical bearings, track rods are stronger, rack mounts are stronger, PAS solid lines are formed Ti, brake lines are formed Ti etc. etc. drive shafts are standard but with Kluber grease. Clutch is standard from the Porsche dealer, release bearing is packed with Kluber again but otherwise standard....
The motor is "standard" as above, it has been opened to replace a few variocam bits when they wore out but has never had the heads off, never had an IMS (it's a decent 3.4 with the dual row bearing) and has had two RMS seals with each clutch change. It's just coming up to it's next clutch service at 305K miles. It has very low loss exhausts with no cats and a single silencer per bank which also double as rear quarter crumple zones, equal length exhaust manifolds, low loss induction/filtration, 82mm throttle body, ECU calibration is specific to the car, various bits of engine loom are Type 55 in DR25, the coils are none standard (mainly for sealing so it can wade), oil system is quite different with a more efficient breather system, much improved baffling and a larger capacity sump. It is comfortably up on where it was when it left Germany even at these miles. There are also various other bits like semi-solid engine mounts, a gear linkage and cable setup that is specific to the car etc. etc. It compression tests bang on what Porsche say it should. Uses 0.3L of oil per 1000 miles if below 4000RPM or 0.6L if above 5500RPM and what little evidence of bore scoring there is in there is no worse than on a 50K mile Duratec.
Due to the fact the nose is packed with fuel it also has additional bumper bar supports, a strengthened boot floor and both tanks run with bags and foam. The primary tank has redundant pumps with proper lift pumps and a collector whilst the secondary tank has a low pressure transfer pump to feed the main tank once it is below 50% level - this method keeps the weight distribution more correct as fuel is burned. It is also possible to return fuel to the second tank if it is necessary to fuel another vehicle from this car. Unfortunately due to the fact it has a front diff it is not possible to use a single 100L bag tank as per the race cars do, on the bright side this does avoid having the filler in the centre of the boot lid which would rather give the game away.
The above controls the transfer pumps, countermeasures and wet/dry mode. There is also a 3.375 litre AFF fire suppressant system designed to defeat a fuel or engine fire for long enough to safely exit the car.
A lot of work went into packaging and weight reduction. The car has no aircon (removed to boost engine cooling as well as reduce weight, it will hold below 88 degrees at 6800RPM in 6th for as long as the fuel lasts), less sound deadening, a lot of Ti fasteners and excess threads removed, various bits of suspension that on the standard car are cast solids are now machined hollow items, exhaust system is much lighter than standard, no rear wiper, aircraft battery etc. etc. so whilst it has a lot of kit onboard and is 4WD it is actually only 13KGs more than a Mk1 GT3 and has fairly respectable corner weights for what it is:
It's not a pretty car by any means but it was never built to be. It was built to be strong and reliable. Whilst it has paint every so often it spends a lot of time looking like this:
Occasionally doing things that Porsche's shouldn't, like moving hay bales:
And at one point earlier this year had a good go at killing every flying insect in France over an 8 hour period:
There is way more on it than mentioned above as it has developed over many years but listing every nut and bolt isn't really practical, not to mentioned I can't remember everything that's not standard! Whilst it does get seriously well looked after and a lot of components on it are lifed rather than replaced when they fail I still think it needs a lot of credit for always making it back home and generally being an incredibly practical and incredibly reliable fast transport. It is after all 17 years and 300K miles old..... and it'll see 400K out before it's 20th!
So lets cut to the chase:
Original IMS, original engine, original gearbox.
Built for commuting across Europe and the top end of Africa at speed it can carry 96L of fuel, generate it's own 240V mains supply, has three GPS receivers and one GLONASS receiver, a sat phone, telemetry, remote diagnostics, it's own specific lightweight Facom tool kit & spares package, 48hour emergency food and water, holds 10L of engine oil, can wade 0.5M of water, has BS5051 spec seal sealing tyres along with TPMS, a lot of underbody protection and a Tomtom!
It can also give quite a reasonable account of itself around a circuit and is capable of over 420 miles range at a 125mph cruise.
Spiny GoPro Video
Mechanically the car is quite different to a standard narrow body C4 (which it started out as). Brakes are 350mm front with Brembo 6 Piston calipers, rears are 330mm with what were the original front calipers. Master cylinder is larger accordingly and the ABS & PSM have a none standard calibration to suit. Dampers are Ohlins and are essentially a modified version of their 996 Turbo R&T kit with damper valving and spring rates specific to this car along with redesigned lower and upper mounts to suit. Front uprights are modified to carry a slightly different and much strong wheel bearing along with the brake caliper mounts. Top mounts are all sphericals and specific to the car/Ohlins damper package. Lots of other bits are on spherical bearings, track rods are stronger, rack mounts are stronger, PAS solid lines are formed Ti, brake lines are formed Ti etc. etc. drive shafts are standard but with Kluber grease. Clutch is standard from the Porsche dealer, release bearing is packed with Kluber again but otherwise standard....
The motor is "standard" as above, it has been opened to replace a few variocam bits when they wore out but has never had the heads off, never had an IMS (it's a decent 3.4 with the dual row bearing) and has had two RMS seals with each clutch change. It's just coming up to it's next clutch service at 305K miles. It has very low loss exhausts with no cats and a single silencer per bank which also double as rear quarter crumple zones, equal length exhaust manifolds, low loss induction/filtration, 82mm throttle body, ECU calibration is specific to the car, various bits of engine loom are Type 55 in DR25, the coils are none standard (mainly for sealing so it can wade), oil system is quite different with a more efficient breather system, much improved baffling and a larger capacity sump. It is comfortably up on where it was when it left Germany even at these miles. There are also various other bits like semi-solid engine mounts, a gear linkage and cable setup that is specific to the car etc. etc. It compression tests bang on what Porsche say it should. Uses 0.3L of oil per 1000 miles if below 4000RPM or 0.6L if above 5500RPM and what little evidence of bore scoring there is in there is no worse than on a 50K mile Duratec.
Due to the fact the nose is packed with fuel it also has additional bumper bar supports, a strengthened boot floor and both tanks run with bags and foam. The primary tank has redundant pumps with proper lift pumps and a collector whilst the secondary tank has a low pressure transfer pump to feed the main tank once it is below 50% level - this method keeps the weight distribution more correct as fuel is burned. It is also possible to return fuel to the second tank if it is necessary to fuel another vehicle from this car. Unfortunately due to the fact it has a front diff it is not possible to use a single 100L bag tank as per the race cars do, on the bright side this does avoid having the filler in the centre of the boot lid which would rather give the game away.
The above controls the transfer pumps, countermeasures and wet/dry mode. There is also a 3.375 litre AFF fire suppressant system designed to defeat a fuel or engine fire for long enough to safely exit the car.
A lot of work went into packaging and weight reduction. The car has no aircon (removed to boost engine cooling as well as reduce weight, it will hold below 88 degrees at 6800RPM in 6th for as long as the fuel lasts), less sound deadening, a lot of Ti fasteners and excess threads removed, various bits of suspension that on the standard car are cast solids are now machined hollow items, exhaust system is much lighter than standard, no rear wiper, aircraft battery etc. etc. so whilst it has a lot of kit onboard and is 4WD it is actually only 13KGs more than a Mk1 GT3 and has fairly respectable corner weights for what it is:
It's not a pretty car by any means but it was never built to be. It was built to be strong and reliable. Whilst it has paint every so often it spends a lot of time looking like this:
Occasionally doing things that Porsche's shouldn't, like moving hay bales:
And at one point earlier this year had a good go at killing every flying insect in France over an 8 hour period:
There is way more on it than mentioned above as it has developed over many years but listing every nut and bolt isn't really practical, not to mentioned I can't remember everything that's not standard! Whilst it does get seriously well looked after and a lot of components on it are lifed rather than replaced when they fail I still think it needs a lot of credit for always making it back home and generally being an incredibly practical and incredibly reliable fast transport. It is after all 17 years and 300K miles old..... and it'll see 400K out before it's 20th!
I know of the chap above having bought some titanium bolts he fabbed up for exhaust and manifolds which always rust to pieces if factory. An F1 engineer Bovingdon bought his now Litchfield restomodded maroon 996 C2 from.
911 owners do like to use their cars which is what's nice about Simon's Murci. This fellow is my hero. He can not be far off 1 million miles
https://www.hagerty.com/media/car-profiles/800000-...
911 owners do like to use their cars which is what's nice about Simon's Murci. This fellow is my hero. He can not be far off 1 million miles
https://www.hagerty.com/media/car-profiles/800000-...
Love the 300k 911 posts.
I used to see an F40 near Guildford a lot, usually parked on the kerb outside a takeaway that was said to have over 100k miles on it and was daily driven. That was when they were worth a fraction of todays value though, so it's probably now sitting in a dealer showroom with 10k miles and a missing history
I used to see an F40 near Guildford a lot, usually parked on the kerb outside a takeaway that was said to have over 100k miles on it and was daily driven. That was when they were worth a fraction of todays value though, so it's probably now sitting in a dealer showroom with 10k miles and a missing history
360 Modena. 116,000 miles all done by me. Owned since 2002. PH article here:
https://www.pistonheads.com/news/ph-eurocars/ferra...
https://www.pistonheads.com/news/ph-eurocars/ferra...
Bebs said:
360 Modena. 116,000 miles all done by me. Owned since 2002. PH article here:
https://www.pistonheads.com/news/ph-eurocars/ferra...
That’s an achievement! Fantastic. https://www.pistonheads.com/news/ph-eurocars/ferra...
If you could help by having your 360 participate in a video with my Murcie too that would be great.
Thanks to all of you who’ve been in touch
SG54LAM said:
First video of the YouTube channel Drivers Keepers is live. This one about my Murcie. It’s the first one so go easy!
If anyone on here can help with appearing with their high mileage supercars (or supercars they would never sell) then I’d be very grateful
https://youtu.be/Z8P_BDgVqJ4?si=cA8Zqwf_8yjFw_3W
Loving this, keep them coming.If anyone on here can help with appearing with their high mileage supercars (or supercars they would never sell) then I’d be very grateful
https://youtu.be/Z8P_BDgVqJ4?si=cA8Zqwf_8yjFw_3W
I purchased a low mileage Carrera 4 GTS just over a year back, all I hear is “you’re killing the value by driving it” just over 10k now , and planning 7 weeks through Europe end of this summer .
Wanted one for 50 years , but not to just look at .
Also got an S2000 we’ve had 21 years , now 80 k , went to sell it last year to help fund the 911, but couldn’t part with it come the day.
I enjoyed the second episode of the series
I think there are two strong points about this video, firstly the in-car engine sound and gearchanges, and secondly the car obviously genuinely means a lot to the presenter.
Sticking with the thread theme, I thought it was nice that McLaren themselves put together a vid celebrating a Swiss owner who put 80k miles on a 12C
Obviously a marketing angle here for the company ("McLarens aren't as fragile as everyone says, honest!"), but I think it's a good thing to celebrate. Perhaps supercar manufacturers should award an annual prize to the owner who has covered the most miles in the past 12 months?
SG54LAM said:
_Leg_ said:
Ive a 458 Spider I've had since 2014 (new) that I've done 33000 miles in, an F12 Ive had since 16 (slightly used) that's on 33000 miles also. Both those will rise by 5000 this year. Theyve been all over Europe (Southern Spain, Southern Italy etc).
Aside from those I have other cars that I've owned long term that I use a lot too (Bentley, Porsche, Mercedes).
54 this year, I missed a year of road trips last year doing adventure stuff. Irritated the hell out of me so I wont be doing that again. Just finished planning and booking 3 euro road trips for this year last night. :-)
Love the 458 tho I never did get used to the indicators on the wheel.Aside from those I have other cars that I've owned long term that I use a lot too (Bentley, Porsche, Mercedes).
54 this year, I missed a year of road trips last year doing adventure stuff. Irritated the hell out of me so I wont be doing that again. Just finished planning and booking 3 euro road trips for this year last night. :-)
As I’ve said before if you’d consider a walk around chat with your cars for this new channel I’m doing be very grateful!
My email is bbmrmail@gmail.com
Thanks again
Emailed you.
You’ll have a field day at mine…
Model A phaeton owned for 14 years
Mk2 Jag owned for 9 years
1964 Alfa Guilietta Sprint owned for 12 years
1967 Abarth 594 owned for 9 years
1972 Mk1 Escort RS1600 owned for 9 years
2008 e92 M3 owned for 16 years
2012 Boxster S owned for 12 years
2014 458 Spider owned for 10 years
2015 F12 owned for 9 years
2017 Komitec Exige 460 owned for 7 years
Plus some other stuff I’ve owned for shorter periods and my Merc GL workhorse I’ve had for 10 years.
Tend to keep hold of things and look after them. Had the wife 30 years and she’s still looking mint. Original bodywork and I didn’t even have her PPFd.
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