Can a super daily car replace a supercar?
Discussion
tberg said:
You have two lovely cars there, but that Pantera is on another level.The Jags are ten a penny really, and I know objectively they are a much better car, but surely its the Pantera that is irreplaceable?
Good move on lightly modifying it to make it more dependable. Gosh its such a good looking car!
footsoldier said:
I’ve used various things as daily drivers, including a Lusso, which did 20k miles in 2 years, not in 1. Did the job very well, and surprisingly under the radar
RS6 too (C7), it was probably best all round if you want something low key. I’m not so much a fan of the later ones which are more flash than sleeper.
If i was looking for something similar now, it would probably be an Alpina B3, or the M5CS
Had an early Urus after the RS6, but it got more attention than anything!
As mentioned by others, am currently split between a Giulia GTA, (my 3rd ‘Quadrifoglio - good choice!) and a Yaris, which cover most bases. Have to say it’s very easy to just jump in the Yaris a lot of the time…
We replaced our basic Yaris hybrid when the deal ran out and they offered us a GR Sport (fake GR basically), end of model run out before they introduced the new update on a deal. Tell you what though - the GR suspension is much worse than the normal suspension for dealing with actual country roads! The previous one, the basic thing was bloody wonderful in deepest darkest Devon, this one is just a bit too crashy.RS6 too (C7), it was probably best all round if you want something low key. I’m not so much a fan of the later ones which are more flash than sleeper.
If i was looking for something similar now, it would probably be an Alpina B3, or the M5CS
Had an early Urus after the RS6, but it got more attention than anything!
As mentioned by others, am currently split between a Giulia GTA, (my 3rd ‘Quadrifoglio - good choice!) and a Yaris, which cover most bases. Have to say it’s very easy to just jump in the Yaris a lot of the time…
Bispal said:
davek_964 said:
Bispal said:
Now the feeling of driving a really special car on a long journey is offset by the people who try to race / chase you, photograph your car, tailgate you and at least once per journey almost side swipe you in their eagerness to get close or 'beat' you at something you were not aware you were competing in.
I am beginning to loathe Tesla drivers. Obviously there are good and bad - but so many of them that will sit 2" from your rear bumper to prove their car is just as fast - even when I'm sticking to speed limits / driving Miss Daisy. It's not so bad when they're in front, since you can just let them disappear into the distance.
Obviously I spend a lot of my time thinking "Wish I'd bought a Tesla instead"............... not.
Obviously you can't pull over. Brake checking them could land you in prison and others in hospital. Do you gently speed up to around 80/85 (to increase the distance then pull in when safe (I find they just stick with you). Do you just keep going at 75 then pull in while they steam past in their Audi A1 25 TFSi at 110 mph videoing you on their phone as they race to the pub to tell their mates they beat a McLaren / Ferrari / Porsche in a race, or do you drop 3 gears, floor the car well into 3 figures and well and truly drop them, your pride intact but risking a ban and a viral tiktok video they took telling the world what a dangerous privileged rich plonker you are.....
Its why I take the Subaru, unfortunately, as above never happens.....
Lincsis1,
Thank you for the Pantera compliments but the XKR is just so good, it will be with me until i can no longer drive. The Pantera is a Sunday morning drive car that after so many years finally works right so that I can enjoy it. If you ever find yourself in southern California, please contact me and you're welcome to take it out for a day. It's still a thrilling ride even at low speeds, the rawness, the NOISE, the visuals. Anytime, I'll have her gassed up and ready to go.
Thank you for the Pantera compliments but the XKR is just so good, it will be with me until i can no longer drive. The Pantera is a Sunday morning drive car that after so many years finally works right so that I can enjoy it. If you ever find yourself in southern California, please contact me and you're welcome to take it out for a day. It's still a thrilling ride even at low speeds, the rawness, the NOISE, the visuals. Anytime, I'll have her gassed up and ready to go.
A car missing from the suggestions would be the m3 or 340i touring. No it’s not a super car. However from owning a fair few estates with a bit of poke they will never feel like a super car no matter the power, rs6 is a good example of this, lovely car but dull to drive.
I’m going to vote with others before though and say run a shed for the majority of that mileage.
-no worries with depreciation re mileage
-no stress parking it anywhere
-everyone ignores you going about your business
-most commute related driving is dull and slow why not relax doing it in a decent shed.
My fleet
Saab 9-5 aero estate for daily duties, dogs, tip, motorway, allotment
Clio 182 trophy for the b roads and shared daily duties
Gallardo spyder for special drives & hopefully future touring abroad
For most journeys I would choose the old saab. If I were to replace it in the future, the 340i estate or similar would be my choice as I think it would be more fun to actually drive than the other powerful estates out there. Plus the engine is easily tuned to big numbers if desired. The m3 estate would sadly be out of budget for me.
I’m going to vote with others before though and say run a shed for the majority of that mileage.
-no worries with depreciation re mileage
-no stress parking it anywhere
-everyone ignores you going about your business
-most commute related driving is dull and slow why not relax doing it in a decent shed.
My fleet
Saab 9-5 aero estate for daily duties, dogs, tip, motorway, allotment
Clio 182 trophy for the b roads and shared daily duties
Gallardo spyder for special drives & hopefully future touring abroad
For most journeys I would choose the old saab. If I were to replace it in the future, the 340i estate or similar would be my choice as I think it would be more fun to actually drive than the other powerful estates out there. Plus the engine is easily tuned to big numbers if desired. The m3 estate would sadly be out of budget for me.
If you’re doing 20,000 miles a year in it, you don’t really want a ‘super car’ for everyday use IMO, it’d not be the most comfortable choice and it would lose that ‘special’ feeling as well.
Back when I was doing big mileage for work I had an E Class and then an A4, however I also had my C6 Corvette at the same time, which in all fairness could have been used as the daily as it was comfy and surprisingly economical on a good drive, but it would have lost the ‘special’ feeling and would have created issues with customers(although I did use it for work when meeting with customers who were into cars as they loved it).
The RS6 has been mentioned a lot but it’s a ‘compromise’ car IMO, it’s a really good all rounder, but because of that it doesn’t excel at anything(i.e. If you want comfort, get an A8, if you want space, get a Q8 and if you want performance, get an R8), for me it seems to be the perfect car for affluent individuals in London who can afford high price cars, but space only allows them to have one car.
You also mention that family commitments stop you enjoying a supercar on the weekend, but I’m sure you’d a) Be able to use one on the odd mid-week work day and b) Be able to go on drives or find events to take your kid/s to in it on the occasional weekend (would probably have to be done on a rota basis if you have more than one child though ).
Back when I was doing big mileage for work I had an E Class and then an A4, however I also had my C6 Corvette at the same time, which in all fairness could have been used as the daily as it was comfy and surprisingly economical on a good drive, but it would have lost the ‘special’ feeling and would have created issues with customers(although I did use it for work when meeting with customers who were into cars as they loved it).
The RS6 has been mentioned a lot but it’s a ‘compromise’ car IMO, it’s a really good all rounder, but because of that it doesn’t excel at anything(i.e. If you want comfort, get an A8, if you want space, get a Q8 and if you want performance, get an R8), for me it seems to be the perfect car for affluent individuals in London who can afford high price cars, but space only allows them to have one car.
You also mention that family commitments stop you enjoying a supercar on the weekend, but I’m sure you’d a) Be able to use one on the odd mid-week work day and b) Be able to go on drives or find events to take your kid/s to in it on the occasional weekend (would probably have to be done on a rota basis if you have more than one child though ).
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