Maserati Red Key

Maserati Red Key

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The Squire

Original Poster:

2 posts

205 months

Saturday 26th July 2003
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Can Anyone help me i have lost the Red key to my masarati and i am told i have to change the ECU, Locks and all that for the sum of 3000

v8thunder

27,646 posts

214 months

Saturday 26th July 2003
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I'm afraid all Fiat-group cars are like this. We lost the red key to the Punto and had to pay a stupid amount for the same service. All I can suggest is that you just keep searching high and low for the damn thing. I think, due to the way the ECU diagnostic is analysed, the dealers/service have all owners squeezed into a corner over this one - there's nowhere else that can decode the diagnostic equipment.

Any computer/ECU-minded people on Pistonheads?

Nice car, btw

The Squire

Original Poster:

2 posts

205 months

Saturday 26th July 2003
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v8thunder said:
I'm afraid all Fiat-group cars are like this. We lost the red key to the Punto and had to pay a stupid amount for the same service. All I can suggest is that you just keep searching high and low for the damn thing. I think, due to the way the ECU diagnostic is analysed, the dealers/service have all owners squeezed into a corner over this one - there's nowhere else that can decode the diagnostic equipment.

Any computer/ECU-minded people on Pistonheads?

Nice car, btw
Thanks for you reply

pbrettle

3,280 posts

239 months

Saturday 26th July 2003
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Yeap, later Fiat group cars had this rather stupid system changed so that it was a separate module to replace and you dont need to do all of the keys and the ECU. But that doesnt help you in the slightest - sorry....

But, yes I am lead to believe that you have to replace the locks and the ECU if you lost the red key....

alan_driver

1,281 posts

213 months

Saturday 26th July 2003
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I'm sure there is a way around it. I remember reading about it with a different car before, if it wasnt on PH then i have no idea where. I will try and find it for you.

cinqster

1,057 posts

235 months

Saturday 26th July 2003
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You'll probably find an old Cinquecento one would work - knowing Italian electrics and security!

Seriously though, I'm not sure what the red key does, as my car started fine with the blue key when the battery had been disconected for weeks. I'd been told by Fiat this would not be possible?

I've couldn't find mine when I sold my Cinq a couple of weeks back but the purchaser said it wasn't a problem because he knew a dodgy bloke in Liverpool that could make them - maybe madcop has his address?

pdV6

16,441 posts

217 months

Monday 28th July 2003
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Did you definately receive the key from the previous owner or supplying dealer.

Some Alfa dealerships actually hold on to the master key and only produce it on request. Don't know if some Maser dealers might do the same?

t1grm

4,616 posts

240 months

Monday 28th July 2003
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Can you claim this on your house insurance? Or can you get a seperate insurance policy rather like you do for a mobile phone or credit cards?

deltaf

6,806 posts

209 months

Monday 28th July 2003
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The red key is the master key. No one else has a copy, and it cant be aquired from a dealer. As far as im aware, theres nothing you can do if you lose it, apart from replace the aforementioed parts.
The master key is supposed to be stashed separatley, in a secure location so that in the event of you losing the other keys, you can get the system reprogrammed for the new keys and the old one programmed out. Thats so that if the keys get nicked, they become useless for starting the car..(transponder in the fob not recognised). Without the master key to program the system, youll have no alternative but to replace those expensive parts. Sorry im not much help.

murph7355

25,491 posts

212 months

Monday 28th July 2003
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Bugger all help to you if you lose it, but it's meant as a deterrant to theft.

Strikes me as a good idea in principle, and it's only the fact that replacing all the bits if you lose it is expensive that it works as a deterrant.

Sorry to be of no help. An insurance claim would strike me as a wise option if you absolutely cannot find it...

AlexHancock

466 posts

224 months

Monday 28th July 2003
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When I bought my 3200 the dealer couldn't locate the red key and (eventually) had to pay to replace the ECU, locks and keys. If a Ferrari/Maserati dealer can't find a way around it I doubt anyone can.

Sorry