Why are manufacturers so unoriginal?

Why are manufacturers so unoriginal?

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TrickyTrevM5

Original Poster:

297 posts

186 months

Friday 24th November 2017
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I just read a story about the new Lamborghini Urus being tested and yet again, its seems to be another 4.0 v8 twin turbo engine....

Why are all of the manufacturers using exactly the same format for all engines for their high performance cars - audi, bentley, mercedes, BMW and now lamborghini - probably a few more too. Even Aston is buying in a 4.0 v8 from Merc for the new vantage and DB11.

Why is everyone using the same form of engine and why are they not trying to differentiate through their engines ?

I love that some manufacturers take a different approach to performance - and this is appealing to me as a potential buyer of a perfornance car.

With performance figures all being similar this distills the purchase choice to packaging - which is a shame.

interested in getting your thoughts

227bhp

10,203 posts

128 months

Friday 24th November 2017
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Money. End thread.

TrickyTrevM5

Original Poster:

297 posts

186 months

Friday 24th November 2017
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thanks
thats cleared that up. i thought it was more linked to power to weight plus emissions across the range but your comments are probably accurate.
but why not a small V10 or a larger capacity v6 - this variation breeds discussion with your friends on what you'll buy next and why. the 5 in the RS3 has other uses surely!
if they all perform the same, sound the same and have the same drive train, all we end up doing is buying a package based on looks alone.

I much prefer a V12 Vantage to a a v8 vantage, a golf R32 to a golf R etc - variety promotes preferences among consumers / petrolheads and what every manufacturer does when they all use the same powertrain is make us decide on 'brand values' and 'packaging' and thats a shame.

i still feel compelled to but a 991 turbo as its a flat 6 TT rather than the ubiquitous 4.0 v8 TT


Edited by TrickyTrevM5 on Friday 24th November 15:21

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 24th November 2017
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Because they are all fighting for sales in the same market!

Say you are building an SUV (like Ur-anus...)

How big should it be? About the same size as it's competitors
How much should it cost? About the same as it's competitors
How much power should it have? About the same as it's competitors


So, punch the same questions into your computer and you get the same answers! These days, all the components are supplied by the same big Teir1 suppliers (Bosch, Valeo, Denso, ZF, AAM etc etc) so really the only difference is the badge on the front and how it looks.....

stevieturbo

17,262 posts

247 months

Friday 24th November 2017
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And despite a lot of big names...parts probably made in China !

stevesingo

4,855 posts

222 months

Friday 24th November 2017
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Given that Lambo, Porsche, Audi and VW are all the same company it should not come as a surprise that they same the same engine.