Maserati Ghibli problem

Maserati Ghibli problem

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ismail.ilgin

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50 posts

45 months

Tuesday 29th November 2016
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Hi all i bought Brand New Maserati Ghibli August 2016 and last few weeks i got some problem. When turning right or left weird noise coming from tyres and tyres skipping while turning.Anyway i been Maserati services for that after checked my car they told me car has no problem.Its characteristic about this car not a fault.

Can you imagine paying lot of money for this car.Everyday i hear this noise like a tyres breakup from the car and Maserati said its not fault.

Please advice me what can i do for that?

Thanks

johnnyreggae

2,460 posts

116 months

Tuesday 29th November 2016
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It could be to do with the colder weather and the reaction of tyres to surface

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ackermann_steering_g...

In which case its not your car having a fault but relatively normal for most cars with wider summer tyres


Edited by johnnyreggae on Tuesday 29th November 17:54

ismail.ilgin

Original Poster:

50 posts

45 months

Tuesday 29th November 2016
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So why other cars doesn't have this problem? How other brands solve this problem and Maserati couldn't?

DarrenKMC

190 posts

58 months

Tuesday 29th November 2016
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It is likely perfectly fine and as suggested, now exaggerated by the cold weather.
Relatively common with many performance brands, large tyre sizes etc and no doubt experienced at greater steering angles/slow speeds.
I've personally experienced it on more current generation Ghibli and QP's than I could possibly ever remember, certainly a characteristic, depending on the tyre size and brand the factory fitted you may be able to improve but theres no additional wear or damage being caused as is.

07satisfaction

32 posts

55 months

Wednesday 30th November 2016
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Limited slip differential, grippy tire compound, and tight turns at slow-speed - all contribute to front tire squeal.

I get it on all my cars except the Yank Tanks.
- Art

ismail.ilgin

Original Poster:

50 posts

45 months

Wednesday 30th November 2016
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So basically i have to drive car like that?Starting a day with annoying noise. It is not fare . Also i dont believe its a characteristic.I think they couldnt solve the problem and name it a characteristic.

Anjum

1,605 posts

240 months

Wednesday 30th November 2016
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Most real GT's / Sports car "crab" due to the wide tyres. I test drove an Alfa Guilia Quadriofoglio yesterday - and it was doing it too!

Ozone

2,826 posts

143 months

Wednesday 30th November 2016
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My wife's A5 Quattro is doing the same.

My guess was that the shoulders on the tyres are slightly worn so not gripping as much but it seems that is probably not the reason.

ismail.ilgin

Original Poster:

50 posts

45 months

Wednesday 30th November 2016
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So is that mean dont buy expensive car to avoid this problem? This car is 3 month old i dont think causing this problem because any part is worn.Also drive another ghilbi doing same thing.I dont know what i have to do now.

S2_DPD

249 posts

185 months

Wednesday 30th November 2016
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All cars to it, and yes wider tyre widths, lower rim profiles, and tread patterns, when combined with the road surface make a difference.

I would suggest that you don't feel it in most cars as they are sterile, you don't feel the road feedback.

Drive in an indoor car park with rubberised floor, with tight turns you here it squealing and rubbing all the time.

The great news is that there is a simple solution for this when owning a Maserati... just buy a V8 model with engine note and exhaust to match - this cancels out any irritation from tyre noise.


EC2

1,041 posts

209 months

Wednesday 30th November 2016
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ismail.ilgin said:
So is that mean dont buy expensive car to avoid this problem? This car is 3 month old i dont think causing this problem because any part is worn.Also drive another ghilbi doing same thing.I dont know what i have to do now.
I would not worry about it, very common on large tyres when it is cold as others have said. Fitting winter tyres will probably stop it. Different tyres do it to greater degrees and in my experience the P Zero is bad for this.

voicey

2,365 posts

143 months

Wednesday 30th November 2016
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Every single car I move in/out of the workshop in this weather does it. If you're not used to it then I agree it can be a little alarming. Sometimes is sounds/feels like the tread blocks are going to scrub off.

If you don't like then sell the car or buy some winter tyres (softer compound at lower temps).

Murph7355

25,504 posts

212 months

Friday 2nd December 2016
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ismail.ilgin said:
So is that mean dont buy expensive car to avoid this problem? This car is 3 month old i dont think causing this problem because any part is worn.Also drive another ghilbi doing same thing.I dont know what i have to do now.
You either learn to live with the few times it will do this each time you go for a drive or sell it and buy something with much smaller tyres and no limited slip diff.

All my cars will do this if there's enough lock on and I'm going slowly enough. Thankfully that scenario covers an inconsequential amount of the miles I do.

Life's definitely unfair when all you have to worry about is your Maserati's tyres graunching now and then. smile

07satisfaction

32 posts

55 months

Saturday 3rd December 2016
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ismail.ilgin said:
So is that mean dont buy expensive car to avoid this problem? This car is 3 month old i dont think causing this problem because any part is worn.Also drive another ghilbi doing same thing.I dont know what i have to do now.
...You have to decide whether or not you can tolerate something you can't control.

...Try your best to appreciate and enjoy the myriad other qualities the manufacturer has given the car. Otherwise it's like asking why waterfalls, or birds, or babies make noise. It's the unfortunate physical nature of friction.



...I give you credit for pointing out this flaw in performance cars. Yes, it would be really nice if low-speed tire noises could be engineered out, but my Alfa Romeo does it, my Maserati does it, my Aston does it... and my Aston mechanic confirms he hears it on Ferraris and Lamborghinis..

The manufacturers would engineer it out if they could...

But I understand you still find it annoying and borderline unacceptable.

If you could post a video of your problem perhaps it would show something unusual going on. But TWO Ghibli's are doing this, and the dealer says it's normal, and our collective experience says this sounds like normal tire friction.

Best wishes,
- Art

garyhun

29,349 posts

184 months

Saturday 3rd December 2016
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Jeez OP - you need to get some perspective.

My Audi R8 did this but, as has been posted above, as it's only at slow manoeuvring speeds it really is a very small percentage of your total driving time.

If something like this really bothers you then I'd see a doctor first. If you cannot be cured then change the car.

Monkeylegend

19,012 posts

187 months

Saturday 3rd December 2016
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garyhun said:
If something like this really bothers you then I'd see a doctor first.
Well that must be a first, my car is making a funny noise, well go and see your Doctor. Very helpful wink

battered

4,088 posts

103 months

Saturday 3rd December 2016
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07satisfaction said:
but my Alfa Romeo does it, my Maserati does it, my Aston does it...
You poor sod. Your life really does sound dreadful. How do you cope? Clearly better than Ismael here, but it still sounds awful.

If it's any consolation, my 125k mile 13 yr old Mondeo steering feels lumpy when I back out of the drive but it's OK at speed. In addition, my MX5 has a warped rear wheel that I'll have to replace to stop a high speed vibration. That might cost me as much as £50. Life's hell, isn't it?

av185

11,662 posts

83 months

Saturday 3rd December 2016
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Chill.

Ackermann effect thats all.

All Porsches do it.

ismail.ilgin

Original Poster:

50 posts

45 months

Saturday 3rd December 2016
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07satisfaction said:
...You have to decide whether or not you can tolerate something you can't control.

...Try your best to appreciate and enjoy the myriad other qualities the manufacturer has given the car. Otherwise it's like asking why waterfalls, or birds, or babies make noise. It's the unfortunate physical nature of friction.



...I give you credit for pointing out this flaw in performance cars. Yes, it would be really nice if low-speed tire noises could be engineered out, but my Alfa Romeo does it, my Maserati does it, my Aston does it... and my Aston mechanic confirms he hears it on Ferraris and Lamborghinis..

The manufacturers would engineer it out if they could...

But I understand you still find it annoying and borderline unacceptable.

If you could post a video of your problem perhaps it would show something unusual going on. But TWO Ghibli's are doing this, and the dealer says it's normal, and our collective experience says this sounds like normal tire friction.

Best wishes,
- Art
My first concern is before buying this car sales person didnt tell me about that.So you said all type of car doing this i can be agree with but it isnt true , porsche,bmw, mercedes and Tesla not doing same problem with same size and Tyree type car.

Best thing is sale and buy another one.From my side its unacceptable. So if everybody accept this why car factory spend to much time and money to solve this problem?

ismail.ilgin

Original Poster:

50 posts

45 months

Saturday 3rd December 2016
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garyhun said:
Jeez OP - you need to get some perspective.

My Audi R8 did this but, as has been posted above, as it's only at slow manoeuvring speeds it really is a very small percentage of your total driving time.

If something like this really bothers you then I'd see a doctor first. If you cannot be cured then change the car.
See the doctor first? What kind of people are you? I think you need to see doctor yesterday and already late for it!!!! Its not my first time drive car like this for you its not a problem but its a common fault and car manufacturing could t solve this because everyone accept this problem like a normal think!