Tyre sensors. Vantage V12

Tyre sensors. Vantage V12

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Phil57DBS

117 posts

22 months

Friday 3rd May
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Two months ago yellow tyre error light came on dash and effectively I have no pressure value for the rear right wheel ...
(add) so i bought a sensor at tpms24.de and the pressure value come back on dashboard but...
because this first yellow light default in memory, i think it now need AMDS reset ?

Edited by Phil57DBS on Friday 3rd May 21:49

madcal

301 posts

84 months

Friday 3rd May
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I don't have an answer I am afraid for that one. Except maybe the batteries are gone in the wheel sensor, they only last 7-8 years.

At around £25 worth giving one of these a try first, get the tyre off, get the old sensor off the wheel, replace and fit and see if the error clears.

The website linked above gives a guide as to what sensors work with what years of Aston if that helps since the system they use did change.

Phil57DBS

117 posts

22 months

Friday 3rd May
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yes 8 years old
see my add in the previous mail
thanks

EVR

343 posts

7 months

Saturday 4th May
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Phil, so you just bought one sensors form TPMS.de?

Could it be that adding it to the OEM ones is not playing well?

Or maybe even the others have a low battery, hence the system is notifying it with the error. On Monday I will have my car at the dealer, I will ask them how this TPMS light is behaving.

madcal

301 posts

84 months

Saturday 4th May
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Update Day 2.

Tyre warning light on and front two tyres flashing. But still getting readings.

Going to pump them up a little and see if it settles. Otherwise we may have an issue with the TPMS.de sensors... keep you posted

Jon39

6,307 posts

90 months

Sunday 5th May
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I wonder if any of the low priced alternatives are any good?
Supposedly tyre temperatures, as well as pressures.










rovcallum

457 posts

90 months

Sunday 5th May
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Jon39 said:

I wonder if any of the low priced alternatives are any good?
Supposedly tyre temperatures, as well as pressures.




Just what I was thinking. Similar system with internal sensors though, as below;

https://www.amazon.co.uk/BEESCLOVER-Pressure-Monit...

Smartire system is working on my 2009 Vantage but for how much longer?
I did some digging on old PH threads and there is no replacement or fix other than Redpants (et al) shorting link cable to fool the system.

I'd rather have a working system but without paying through the nose for the priveledge. So, to fix that I am probably going to buy the Amazon product above (Receiver plus 4 x sensors for the mightily grand sum of £57) and have a play at interfacing the receiver output to the dash.... unless it's already been tried by someone on here already.

If anyone knows of a better system / more reliable system and future-proof, let's hear it.
And yes, I could solve the problem by replacing the car with the newer model but I kinda like this one, a lot.


Ken Figenus

4,584 posts

64 months

Sunday 5th May
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I'm very partial to saving unnecessary £ but I did my rears with same OE brand to ensure its all nice and compatible, and I like the idea of this safety system.

Huf bought Beru so the sensors are now Huf. Jon from Driveway tyres whom I trust to not damage the wheels did them on the drive. Total cost under £170 and I got to clean inside the wheels and lick the calipers too smile

Edited by Ken Figenus on Sunday 5th May 14:51

Ken Figenus

4,584 posts

64 months

Sunday 5th May
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EVR said:
Phil, so you just bought one sensors form TPMS.de?

Could it be that adding it to the OEM ones is not playing well?

Or maybe even the others have a low battery, hence the system is notifying it with the error. .
They all tend to go the same time - I did one and the very next day the opposite side was giving an error. The Foxwell OBD reader can tell you which wheel it is.

madcal

301 posts

84 months

Sunday 5th May
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madcal said:
Update Day 2.

Tyre warning light on and front two tyres flashing. But still getting readings.

Going to pump them up a little and see if it settles. Otherwise we may have an issue with the TPMS.de sensors... keep you posted
Added some air and all is good. 4 new sensors for around £100.

I would recommend!

EVR

343 posts

7 months

Monday 6th May
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madcal said:
Added some air and all is good. 4 new sensors for around £100.

I would recommend!
Nice, thanks for reporting.

rovcallum

457 posts

90 months

Monday 6th May
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Ken Figenus said:
I'm very partial to saving unnecessary £ but I did my rears with same OE brand to ensure its all nice and compatible, and I like the idea of this safety system.

Huf bought Beru so the sensors are now Huf. Jon from Driveway tyres whom I trust to not damage the wheels did them on the drive. Total cost under £170 and I got to clean inside the wheels and lick the calipers too smile

Edited by Ken Figenus on Sunday 5th May 14:51
I fear this thread is becoming very confusing as there are at least two different TPMS systems on the go from 2005 - 2015.

The £700-£800 costs mentioned in this thread must all be for the replacement of the Smartire sensors which, correct me if I'm wrong, require a visit to a AM Dealer or someone with the correct programmer and involve obselete parts.

The later system uses a cheaper system (and probably better), thus very different costs for replacement sensors.

Maybe someone could fill in the gaps in my knowledge here as I am no expert.

Ken, can you confirm what TPMS is in your car?

EVR

343 posts

7 months

Monday 6th May
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rovcallum said:
I fear this thread is becoming very confusing as there are at least two different TPMS systems on the go from 2005 - 2015.

The £700-£800 costs mentioned in this thread must all be for the replacement of the Smartire sensors which, correct me if I'm wrong, require a visit to a AM Dealer or someone with the correct programmer and involve obselete parts.

The later system uses a cheaper system (and probably better), thus very different costs for replacement sensors.

Maybe someone could fill in the gaps in my knowledge here as I am no expert.

Ken, can you confirm what TPMS is in your car?
This is correct.

To know if your car is equipped with the old Smart Tire or the new Beru/Huf (apart from model year) you can check the dashboard display. If it shows a little car with the pressure on each wheel, you have the Beru/Huf (the latest). If not, Smart Tire which has the module with status LEDs just under the glove box.

When batteries are done (after 5-7 years), you can do the following:

With the newer system you can:

- try cheaper sensors, like Madcal did, at around 37 € each. I still believe the dealer is charging you quite a lot even for those, around 120€/each. You don't need a calibration procedure at the dealer with those, are they are self-pairing with the system. Just a short drive will do.

With the old system, you have the following options:

- go to the dealer and shell out for 200€/each. Sensors have to be manually paired with the module using an AM software.

- buy a system delete wire from redpants.lol and lose the functionality but also the warning light on the dash

- try to replace the batteries in the sensors, even if it's pretty complicated according to this video.

- Don't care and go on with your life. biggrin

I have the newest system and will wait what the dealer has to say on it. If it will confirms I need new sensors, I will go down the cheapest sensors road and report back.

Ken Figenus

4,584 posts

64 months

Monday 6th May
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rovcallum said:
I fear this thread is becoming very confusing as there are at least two different TPMS systems on the go from 2005 - 2015.

The £700-£800 costs mentioned in this thread must all be for the replacement of the Smartire sensors which, correct me if I'm wrong, require a visit to a AM Dealer or someone with the correct programmer and involve obselete parts.

The later system uses a cheaper system (and probably better), thus very different costs for replacement sensors.

Maybe someone could fill in the gaps in my knowledge here as I am no expert.

Ken, can you confirm what TPMS is in your car?
EVR's post nails it mate.

I have the later 2010+ system made by Beru but now bought out by Huf. This system self learns - based on proximity to the receiver on the hub said V8 Pete once upon a time. I was buying the exact same as OE sensors for about £60. £100 per corner fitted (tops) seems a no brainier to me as this is a 200mph car (well, if I lose 3 stone, use 100 RON and with a tailwind and no kids) wink

EVR

343 posts

7 months

Tuesday 7th May
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Dealer confirmed the batteries are on their way out on the sensors, hence I have the warning light.

It seems in Europe all sensors are on back order for AM, so if I want to order from them (160€/each + 1 hour of work) they will arrive at the end of June.

Will try to order those from tpms.de and report back.

madcal

301 posts

84 months

Tuesday 7th May
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EVR said:
Dealer confirmed the batteries are on their way out on the sensors, hence I have the warning light.

It seems in Europe all sensors are on back order for AM, so if I want to order from them (160€/each + 1 hour of work) they will arrive at the end of June.

Will try to order those from tpms.de and report back.
I was nervous but installed them myself on my new wheels [5 minutes a wheel, maybe more if you have to scrape off the old glued ones, the new ones bolt on], then had the tyres swapped and stuck them back on. Within 30 seconds of idling it picked them up. I got pressure warnings the next day but only because the fronts were at 32 not 36. Put some air in and all good since.



Jon39

6,307 posts

90 months

Tuesday 7th May
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EVR said:
Dealer confirmed the batteries are on their way out on the sensors .....
..... if I want to order from them (160€/each ......

€160 each !!!!!

Goodness me. How much will 1,000 batteries cost for my electric car?
They told me no emissions, and it will only cost a few pence for each journey.



Emilio Largo

245 posts

58 months

Wednesday 8th May
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Interesting and informative thread! Still the best forum.

An additional question regarding the battery lifetime span of the OEM sensors that can be expected: If I rarely drive my car, would it be the same five to seven years that are to be expected or should they last longer as they are rarely in operation?

Graze01

609 posts

39 months

Wednesday 8th May
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Emilio

I took my original wheels off my 07 V8V after 10 years and about 42,000km and the sensors were still working perfectly.

So they can operate for a long time

Graeme

Emilio Largo

245 posts

58 months

Wednesday 8th May
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Thanks, Graeme. Good to know smile