Brake pad & disc fault - Aston wont cover under warranty
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Its a difficult one as "they" dont know how those 3.5k miles have been driven and only have your word for it that they were a gentle commute and not keeping the pedal pressed after a high speed stop etc.
Were the callipers refurbed during the rotor and pad change. You may have a sticking calliper that has overheated the rotor and hence caused the warping.
On most occasions I read something like this I would say its pad deposits that need a good spirited drive to remove but you say that AM have taken them and measured the run out ?
Is it really £3100 for one new rotor ? If you dont get any traction with AM and it was my car, I`d be looking at an aftermarket solution for a calliper refurb or do it myself.
Were the callipers refurbed during the rotor and pad change. You may have a sticking calliper that has overheated the rotor and hence caused the warping.
On most occasions I read something like this I would say its pad deposits that need a good spirited drive to remove but you say that AM have taken them and measured the run out ?
Is it really £3100 for one new rotor ? If you dont get any traction with AM and it was my car, I`d be looking at an aftermarket solution for a calliper refurb or do it myself.
Far Cough said:
Its a difficult one as "they" dont know how those 3.5k miles have been driven and only have your word for it that they were a gentle commute and not keeping the pedal pressed after a high speed stop etc.
Were the callipers refurbed during the rotor and pad change. You may have a sticking calliper that has overheated the rotor and hence caused the warping.
On most occasions I read something like this I would say its pad deposits that need a good spirited drive to remove but you say that AM have taken them and measured the run out ?
Is it really £3100 for one new rotor ? If you dont get any traction with AM and it was my car, I`d be looking at an aftermarket solution for a calliper refurb or do it myself.
This! If you've had a warped disc twice on the same corner and it's overheated I'd be looking to have the calliper checked to see if it's seized/partially seized and so binding on the disc. As regards what AM should do, it's obviously difficult from their perspective, but I'm surprised they won't even make a good will gesture - fit it for free and only charge parts etc - and I'd question them as to why if they think it is down to excessive breaking hasn't the other front disc overheated and warped too? If the calliper is sticking, shouldn't they have notice that when they fitted the new kit - I mean shouldn't they have questioned, or wondered why a disc has warped and at least check it? Were the callipers refurbed during the rotor and pad change. You may have a sticking calliper that has overheated the rotor and hence caused the warping.
On most occasions I read something like this I would say its pad deposits that need a good spirited drive to remove but you say that AM have taken them and measured the run out ?
Is it really £3100 for one new rotor ? If you dont get any traction with AM and it was my car, I`d be looking at an aftermarket solution for a calliper refurb or do it myself.
If the disk has not many miles on it I would check if it can be skimmed to level off rather than replace.
I agree that it all sounds like brakes binding. I would not expect a dealership to bother checking. As a simple test you could try jacking that side up and spinning the wheel to see if it rotates freely?
I agree that it all sounds like brakes binding. I would not expect a dealership to bother checking. As a simple test you could try jacking that side up and spinning the wheel to see if it rotates freely?
Far Cough said:
Its a difficult one as "they" dont know how those 3.5k miles have been driven and only have your word for it that they were a gentle commute and not keeping the pedal pressed after a high speed stop etc.
Were the callipers refurbed during the rotor and pad change. You may have a sticking calliper that has overheated the rotor and hence caused the warping.
On most occasions I read something like this I would say its pad deposits that need a good spirited drive to remove but you say that AM have taken them and measured the run out ?
Is it really £3100 for one new rotor ? If you dont get any traction with AM and it was my car, I`d be looking at an aftermarket solution for a calliper refurb or do it myself.
Totally agree its a difficult situation for both Aston and myself with a my word versus theirs on how hard the car has been driven.Were the callipers refurbed during the rotor and pad change. You may have a sticking calliper that has overheated the rotor and hence caused the warping.
On most occasions I read something like this I would say its pad deposits that need a good spirited drive to remove but you say that AM have taken them and measured the run out ?
Is it really £3100 for one new rotor ? If you dont get any traction with AM and it was my car, I`d be looking at an aftermarket solution for a calliper refurb or do it myself.
As far as I know the calipers were not changed or refurbished during the 2019 service when all 4 discs and pads were replaced. The AM dealership has take measurements that show the slight warping so I don't think a "spirited drive" would clear out any deposits!
The £3095 is the quote from the AM dealership for 2 x new pads and 2 x new discs and the labour costs to change both front corners as I am being told they need to be changed in pairs to ensure equal braking
I will ask the dealer about a sticky/challenging caliper that could be causing a problem.
If I get nowhere with AM directly, I would now look at a 3rd party for replacement parts and labour which I expect would bring the costs down to £1500-2000 but the car has only ever been touched by official AM dealers and would ideally like to keep it that way
thanks for your recommendations
Understandable, pretty much any consumable is not a warranty item. Frustrating though as a customer. You have a clutch go after 10k miles and they are not covered either....
Their prices are full wack list prices. Numerous threads on here you can DIY your own discs n pads for under £1k. Specialists are not much more.
Id be tempted to go elsewhere, a specialist if you can, get it all checked and renewed as necessary. They might be able to skim them too and save some cash.
Their prices are full wack list prices. Numerous threads on here you can DIY your own discs n pads for under £1k. Specialists are not much more.
Id be tempted to go elsewhere, a specialist if you can, get it all checked and renewed as necessary. They might be able to skim them too and save some cash.
I'd be looking at the caliper, its far more likely its not releasing properly than a disc to go bang that quickly.
Part of the service should be see the pins greased but I suffered the same fate on my old V12 Vantage, the MD hadn't bothered and it had chiseled the edge of the carbon ceramic disc away.... joy!
Part of the service should be see the pins greased but I suffered the same fate on my old V12 Vantage, the MD hadn't bothered and it had chiseled the edge of the carbon ceramic disc away.... joy!
My first thought was caliper as well.
I don't see any point simply replacing discs/pads again without first getting to the bottom of what's causing the problem, otherwise you'll just be back to square one again in 12 months time. It might not be of any real concern to the dealer because they'll quite happily supply you with another set next time (with free coffee, biscuits, newspaper and wifi etc..)
I don't see any point simply replacing discs/pads again without first getting to the bottom of what's causing the problem, otherwise you'll just be back to square one again in 12 months time. It might not be of any real concern to the dealer because they'll quite happily supply you with another set next time (with free coffee, biscuits, newspaper and wifi etc..)
Almost certainly the caliper binding. Any decent engineering business should be able to skim the discs although I would go for the onlinecarparts option.
You will also need to replace the pads because they will have also overheated if the disc has. Most large motor factors will have a good source for caliper refurbishment, quite often a company I use called Brake Engineering or Shaftec. Probably around £200.00 all in for a full refurb.
If you are really keen, and you really believe the discs and pads have overheated badly, then a brake fluid change would not go amiss because you could have boiled the brake fluid.
You will also need to replace the pads because they will have also overheated if the disc has. Most large motor factors will have a good source for caliper refurbishment, quite often a company I use called Brake Engineering or Shaftec. Probably around £200.00 all in for a full refurb.
If you are really keen, and you really believe the discs and pads have overheated badly, then a brake fluid change would not go amiss because you could have boiled the brake fluid.
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