The new Vantage?

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AMV8 Bert

36 posts

135 months

Tuesday 4th February
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RoNNy379CH said:
mine came in gloss black.
I assume you didn't choose a carbon center stack? I'm afraid the "ears" are only in carbon then. That also explains the high price for the carbon center stack.
My dealer doesn't have a clear answer (yet).

RoNNy379CH

76 posts

14 months

Tuesday 4th February
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In the online AM configurator the ears are not perfect visible if you change to between closs and carbon center stack.



Our center stack finish is gloss.

For the ears im not sure if carbon looks better?

Maybe i ask my xPel PPF specialist for wrap the ears to carbon. He can produce PPF templates for all parts inside and outside as offical XPEL specialist.



we configurate our Interior Options as follow:

Interior
Seating Sports Plus Seat
Environments Inspire Sport - Monotone
Headlining Oxford Tan
Secondary Colour Copper Tan Metallic
Primary Colour Copper Tan Metallic

Interior options
Centre Stack Finisher Gloss Black
Lower Trim Inlay Carbon
Seatbelt Black
Interior Jewellery Satin Dark Chrome
Stitching Contrast Stitching
Steering Wheel Sports Wheel
Upper Trim Inlay Carbon
Carpet Black 600gsm
Stitching Bitter Chocolate

Edited by RoNNy379CH on Tuesday 4th February 13:30


Edited by RoNNy379CH on Tuesday 4th February 13:48

AMV8 Bert

36 posts

135 months

Tuesday 4th February
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Thanks for the clear answer! I'll see.

My configuration is as follows.

Exterior:
Signature Color Aluminite Silver
Carbon Fiber Lower Package
Body Colored Upper Package
Bright Front Grille
Y-spoke Forged Wheels - Satin Black DT
Smoked Tail Lights
Red Painted Brake Calipers

Interior:
Environment Inspire - Monotone (including the upper and lower Carbon Trim Inlay)
Color Oxford Tan
Sport Plus Seats
Interior Jewellery Satin Silver
Ivory Contrast Stitching
Oxford Tan Headlining
Oxford Tan Carpet
Heated Steering Wheel


RoNNy379CH

76 posts

14 months

Tuesday 4th February
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congrats, great configuration too :-)

VantageHead

206 posts

67 months

Tuesday 4th February
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AMV8 Bert said:
Thanks for the clear answer! I'll see.

My configuration is as follows.

Exterior:
Signature Color Aluminite Silver
Carbon Fiber Lower Package
Body Colored Upper Package
Bright Front Grille
Y-spoke Forged Wheels - Satin Black DT
Smoked Tail Lights
Red Painted Brake Calipers

Interior:
Environment Inspire - Monotone (including the upper and lower Carbon Trim Inlay)
Color Oxford Tan
Sport Plus Seats
Interior Jewellery Satin Silver
Ivory Contrast Stitching
Oxford Tan Headlining
Oxford Tan Carpet
Heated Steering Wheel

Nice Specification!! The Ivory Contrast stitching will look very smart, especially with the aluminite silver (a lovely paint colour).

When are you expecting delivery?

AMV8 Bert

36 posts

135 months

Tuesday 4th February
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Ordered in November, expected delivery in May. I hope…

RoNNy379CH

76 posts

14 months

Tuesday 4th February
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.....ours took 6 month pinned on the day.

VantageHead

206 posts

67 months

Tuesday 4th February
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Thank you Bert & RoNNy379CH.

When I placed my order last Monday, I was told by the dealer that now that AML have additionally started manufacturing the Vantage roadster, dealers are being told to quote 8 months delivery time, so for orders received by end of January, expect a delivery date of September.

Beckson

410 posts

62 months

Tuesday 4th February
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It'll be interesting to see how the latest models do with sales. Hopefully decently so.
Also curious as to what's next after the vanquish volante is revealed,as that would fully flesh out the core range.

Stark999

116 posts

17 months

Wednesday 5th February
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Been told that certain models have stopped production to make way for the Vantage Roadster. Even though all cars are made to order, cars for demonstrators etc have ceased. Had a Vantage Roadster on a 22 plate which I wrote off unfortunately and nearly went for the new model again but couldn’t feel that excitement, even though it’s an entirely different car.

So had one of these on loan for 4 days, DB12 Volante



And this is the scheme and colour way we are going for


VantageHead

206 posts

67 months

Wednesday 5th February
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Stark999 said:
Been told that certain models have stopped production to make way for the Vantage Roadster. Even though all cars are made to order, cars for demonstrators etc have ceased. Had a Vantage Roadster on a 22 plate which I wrote off unfortunately and nearly went for the new model again but couldn’t feel that excitement, even though it’s an entirely different car.

So had one of these on loan for 4 days, DB12 Volante

Interesting to hear about the manufacturing changes. Presumably Adrian Hallmark has been instrumental in rebalancing the production line, and clearly AML are expecting healthy sales from new new Vantage roadster to have made these changes. Guessing that’s why production lead time has extended for all models.

I love that Magneto Bronze DB12 demonstrator - it’s a lovely colour (despite some people thinking it looks too much like ‘excrement brown’). Would be interested if specified with bronze wheels though.

VantageHead

206 posts

67 months

Wednesday 5th February
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Interested to hear if anyone managed to get hold of the hard-back brochure ‘book’ for ‘new new Vantage’ Coupe?

I see that there’s quite a few of these up for sale on ‘the Bay’ from some dealers (e.g. AML Works at £39!) as well as some individuals (ca. £20). Guessing these were handed out to folks who attended the original launch events? I had to ask for one (as someone who’s just placed an order for the car), but it’s obvious there’s some ‘gouging’ going on here (nothing new for these on-line auction sites).

It’s a nice enough book/souvenir but is full of Aston’s marketing hyperbole (just like car brochures of old I guess)! You’re not missing out if you don’t get one…….






Dewi 2

1,588 posts

76 months

Wednesday 5th February
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VantageHead said:
Interested to hear if anyone managed to get hold of the hard-back brochure ‘book’ for ‘new new Vantage’ Coupe?

Yes, I have one. It was given to me.

The matter of Works advertising their hard-back brochures for sale, has been raised on here before.
Not very good form, if you want my opinion.

They are a subsidiary of AMLGH, so does the parent approve of such activity?
Perhaps reasonable for discontinued models, but for current cars, it gives an impression they cannot sell the cars, so no longer require the brochures.

AMV8 Bert

36 posts

135 months

Wednesday 5th February
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AMV8 Bert said:
I assume you didn't choose a carbon center stack? I'm afraid the "ears" are only in carbon then. That also explains the high price for the carbon center stack.
My dealer doesn't have a clear answer (yet).
Just got confirmation from my dealer that the "ears" next to the instrument cluster are only in carbon when you choose the carbon center stack option.
Then I'll take this option and have a full carbon interior!

CitySlicker

349 posts

104 months

Thursday 6th February
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BenAstonV12 said:
VantageHead said:
For anyone interested, here’s the spec of new new Vantage that I’ve ordered;






Beautiful!!
That is stunning, excellent taste

VantageHead

206 posts

67 months

Thursday 6th February
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CitySlicker said:
That is stunning, excellent taste
Thank you C! I spent ages on the configurator as I wanted to ‘get it right’. Looked at colours/configuration that would look good on an Aston, different from my existing Magnetic Silver Vantage and something that I wouldn’t ’tire of’.

VantageHead

206 posts

67 months

Thursday 6th February
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Adrian Hallmark says we need more manuals?



Didn’t think the ultra low sales figures of manual Vantage justified the R&D costs to do it again? JLR found the same with F-Type - lots of ‘pistonheads-type’ desire for manual gearboxes, but marketplace doesn’t agree.

Some interesting design discussions though by Bembli comparing ‘new new Vantage’ to Porsche 911 ST.

Minglar

1,408 posts

134 months

Thursday 6th February
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VantageHead said:
Adrian Hallmark says we need more manuals?



Didn’t think the ultra low sales figures of manual Vantage justified the R&D costs to do it again? JLR found the same with F-Type - lots of ‘pistonheads-type’ desire for manual gearboxes, but marketplace doesn’t agree.

Some interesting design discussions though by Bembli comparing ‘new new Vantage’ to Porsche 911 ST.
I read the Adrian Hallmark article and I’m not sure whether launching a manual version of new new Vantage is what the market would really want. Last time it proved to be rather futile mainly due to two key issues. The gearbox used was the seven speed manual found in the last Gaydon iteration of V12VS and also the engine had to be derated as it was the first time the AMG V8 had been hooked up to a manual and the torque was an issue. Looking at Porsche and 911 the recently launched 911 Carrera T is the only manual version you can currently buy unless you go for a GT model or a ST. Although it’s interesting that they have reverted to a six speed and canned the seven speed. Maybe a lesson to learn there. From what I’ve read it has had some great reviews but I’m not so keen on the daft sticker in the rear quarter window or the “MT” logo just in front of the wooden gear lever. Porsche can do it because the are so many variants of 911 on sale at all price points. Imho I think AML need to stick to the current automatic version of new new Vantage and try to get the sales figures up before they even think about launching a manual. I think the number of customers looking for a manual version of any of the cars in the current range is likely to be very small indeed, despite the nostalgia. We shall see I guess. BRM.


Edited by Minglar on Thursday 6th February 13:50

Beckson

410 posts

62 months

Thursday 6th February
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Did you know that titanium silver or tungsten silver is now a $21K USD "Q Icon" / "Q Special" option on the vantage, db12 etc? I could not believe that when I had a dealer price one for me. like wtf seriously charging 20K+ for paint that used to be a no/low cost option even on the Db11? that is seriously crazy in my opinion. Like I get it, if it's a special zagato color or you want something from the 1960s, or a Ferrari color, or like the porsche malachite green mentioned in a thread but for tungsten or Titanium silver to be that much is frankly a ripoff.

then another $11k or so for the "inspire comfort monotone leather" which as I understand is the semi aniline that used to be standard on the db9.

I'm extremely, extremely tempted with a new db12 volante or vantage roadster but I just feel like I'm getting taken advantage of with some of those option costs for prior standard, no or low cost choices. I have no interest in all the crazy carbon exterior/interior packages which are major $$, but even for something understated with relatively few options like a db12 in tungsten silver with a black semi aniline interior w/ piano black/ bright metal work you are looking at $340K +- USD or Vantage about $260-270K before sales tax which, I just cannot quite make the man maths work for when I can find a DBSS volante in the mid 200K range or a 2016 vanquish volante in the 165-170K range.

Edited by Beckson on Thursday 6th February 16:18


Edited by Beckson on Thursday 6th February 16:23

LTP

2,448 posts

123 months

Thursday 6th February
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Beckson said:
A lot about some option prices on the DB12 as being "...frankly a ripoff." when they used to be standard
I can offer some possible explanations that come to mind, from a background in automotive engineering but without direct knowledge of these particular instances:
  1. The once-standard options had a very low actual take-up, meaning it cost money to make them available for current production that wasn't justified by the sales
  2. These options actually proved problematic in production, generating more quality demerits and needing more rework than other standard options
  3. The materials for these particular options were more expensive than for some others, so prices were increased to reflect this
  4. AML needed to increase the profit per model and selected these particular options for premium pricing, based on some criteria of uptake and actual cost
typo fixed

Edited by LTP on Thursday 6th February 17:50