The new Vantage?
Discussion
Davil said:
VantageHead said:
Just to be clear, year one VED rates for petrol cars registered on or after 1 April 2025 is £5,490 (for cars emitting over 255g/km CO2) and £4,680 (for cars between 226 – 255 g/km CO2).
This is double the current rates of £2,745 and £2,340 respectively, so a £6,000 discount (on a pre-built showroom model) would cover over twice the VED hikes.
Of course, pre-built showroom cars can be registered before 1st April 2025 at the current VED rate.
Do you have to pay that every year? This is double the current rates of £2,745 and £2,340 respectively, so a £6,000 discount (on a pre-built showroom model) would cover over twice the VED hikes.
Of course, pre-built showroom cars can be registered before 1st April 2025 at the current VED rate.
Dewi 2 said:
How, do you all feel about this, pay more if you (supposedly) pollute more, road tax?
Many of us are probably using our Aston Martins only as occasional enjoyable toys.
By driving say one or two thousand miles annually, the Net Zero, Pollution, Carbons emitted, are probably less that a battery car covering 15,000 miles annually and being recharged with electricity 50% generated by burning gas.
The government records will reveal the annual usage of all vehicles subject to MoTs.
So I would prefer a pay per mile tax, but the trouble with that would be, the government would charge road tax in addition for each of our cars.
We are continually being told that every tax increase, is apparently essential to clear NHS waiting lists and fill something called a black hole.
Anyway, the winter hibernation makes me feel slightly better about it.
Ms Rachel Reeves will take time off from altering (again) her published CV, to send me a refund cheque.
When applying for a job,we presumably can now 'fluff-up' our CVs, without facing any trouble, although David Scott (out of jail now), found thing different in 2017.
With multiple cars three of which being V10 , 8 and 6 and then one diesel I would vote for per mile but suspect you are right in that they would ask for both.
alscar said:
Davil said:
VantageHead said:
Just to be clear, year one VED rates for petrol cars registered on or after 1 April 2025 is £5,490 (for cars emitting over 255g/km CO2) and £4,680 (for cars between 226 – 255 g/km CO2).
This is double the current rates of £2,745 and £2,340 respectively, so a £6,000 discount (on a pre-built showroom model) would cover over twice the VED hikes.
Of course, pre-built showroom cars can be registered before 1st April 2025 at the current VED rate.
Do you have to pay that every year? This is double the current rates of £2,745 and £2,340 respectively, so a £6,000 discount (on a pre-built showroom model) would cover over twice the VED hikes.
Of course, pre-built showroom cars can be registered before 1st April 2025 at the current VED rate.
but if they not know for petrol engine'd cars, then you get the fixed 550 g/km... they are totally nuts!!
its on top of the car and ex 21% BTW tax...
https://youtu.be/Gn2TOmkvsAI?si=DHXH5DH86_EsKXX6
"The 2025 Aston Martin Vantage takes a dynamic leap forward over past iterations of this iconic model. Here it makes tremendous power but also puts that power down perfectly. Additionally, it looks fantastic inside and out... and the sound is excellent, as well."
"The 2025 Aston Martin Vantage takes a dynamic leap forward over past iterations of this iconic model. Here it makes tremendous power but also puts that power down perfectly. Additionally, it looks fantastic inside and out... and the sound is excellent, as well."
BenAstonV12 said:
"The 2025 Aston Martin Vantage takes a dynamic leap forward over past iterations of this iconic model. Here it makes tremendous power but also puts that power down perfectly. Additionally, it looks fantastic inside and out... and the sound is excellent, as well."
ZT260SE said:
Minglar said:
I can’t see there being many takers for the car listed on AT. The price is punchy and reeks of a flipper who will probably end up disappointed
Seller must have read your post - £30k lower today!BRM.
Minglar said:
The price has been reduced again, this time by £10,000 to £209,995. A 16% drop in less than a week and it’s still for sale. Why the sudden £40,000 reduction? We all know new new Vantage has been very well received by the motoring press and journalists etc, but selling cars to real customers is the key. Has AML misread the market and possibly mispriced this car, particularly some of the options? Could it be that people are holding off ahead of Christmas and the situation will change in the New Year? Imho if AML struggles to sell a car as good as this one is now, then I really do fear for the future of the company. We shall see.
BRM.
BRM.
I suggest there is now psychology at play with AML sales.
An introduction to the brand model and a £200,000 price (with options).
£200,000 is a hurdle that makes people think much more, before deciding whether they should purchase.
It is similar to a £9.99 article selling better, than an identical article at £10.
Not logical, but human decisions are influenced by these round number steps.
A similar human weakness is the temptation of a seeing discount.
Product on sale for £60.
Price increased to £90 for a number of weeks (to comply with discounting rules).
Then;
All Must Go, Gigantic Sale Offer, 25% off, Was £90. Now at an unbelievable price, just £67.50. Hurry, only while stocks last.
Minglar said:
The price has been reduced again, this time by £10,000 to £209,995.
Perhaps because they removed the carbon ceramic brakes as advertised and replaced with steels? Ha!Seriously though, they need to change the description....The only carbon I see on there is the centre stack and binnacle.
You have to wonder what they paid for the car in the first place.
With 900 miles in that spec (which is not bad by any means but micromesh headlining & lack of B&W are misses for me personally) I think the original asking price was certainly too high. It's winter. For that price, speccing a car to my taste and waiting would be superior.
AlexT said:
Minglar said:
The price has been reduced again, this time by £10,000 to £209,995.
Perhaps because they removed the carbon ceramic brakes as advertised and replaced with steels? Ha!Seriously though, they need to change the description....The only carbon I see on there is the centre stack and binnacle.
You have to wonder what they paid for the car in the first place.
With 900 miles in that spec (which is not bad by any means but micromesh headlining & lack of B&W are misses for me personally) I think the original asking price was certainly too high. It's winter. For that price, speccing a car to my taste and waiting would be superior.
BRM.
Minglar said:
The price has been reduced again, this time by £10,000 to £209,995. A 16% drop in less than a week and it’s still for sale. Why the sudden £40,000 reduction? We all know new new Vantage has been very well received by the motoring press and journalists etc, but selling cars to real customers is the key. Has AML misread the market and possibly mispriced this car, particularly some of the options? Could it be that people are holding off ahead of Christmas and the situation will change in the New Year? Imho if AML struggles to sell a car as good as this one is now, then I really do fear for the future of the company. We shall see.
BRM.
I've heard from dealers in Germany that sales of the Vantage are not as good as expected.BRM.
Problem seem that current Vantage owners struggle to upgrade as price difference is too high, which leave a lot of potential customers on the table.
In other words, AM needs to find customers from other brands, which is way harder as dealing with existing customers.
DB12 hasn't had these problems, from what I've heard a lot of former DB11 or DBS customers have upgraded to the DB12.
Following this logic, the DB12 seems to be priced reasonable, especially when compared to the competition.
As said before, I think the Vantage would sell better with a 10-15% price reduction.
On the other hand, lower sales mean less cars on the second hand market, which will lead to a better resale value.
You can see this actually happen when browsing the sales section of "www.mobile.de" (german autotrader)
We'll see how this will develop over the next months.
Minglar said:
AlexT said:
Minglar said:
The price has been reduced again, this time by £10,000 to £209,995.
Perhaps because they removed the carbon ceramic brakes as advertised and replaced with steels? Ha!Seriously though, they need to change the description....The only carbon I see on there is the centre stack and binnacle.
You have to wonder what they paid for the car in the first place.
With 900 miles in that spec (which is not bad by any means but micromesh headlining & lack of B&W are misses for me personally) I think the original asking price was certainly too high. It's winter. For that price, speccing a car to my taste and waiting would be superior.
BRM.
BRM.
yes here in switzerland - i post a few months ago (4th july) the first new Vantage sale - begins with 333 333 CHF. The same lemon are now 299 000.
Even our new Vantage, which we will receive in March 2025, was not nearly as expensive.
We also received the launch package bonus, which reduces the price again by almost 30,000 chf.
We are really looking forward to our malachite green. I'm curious to see how the color will look.
The red one, is also the dealer's demo vehicle.
Even our new Vantage, which we will receive in March 2025, was not nearly as expensive.
We also received the launch package bonus, which reduces the price again by almost 30,000 chf.
We are really looking forward to our malachite green. I'm curious to see how the color will look.
The red one, is also the dealer's demo vehicle.
Edited by RoNNy379CH on Thursday 28th November 05:40
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdiA2MTQp60
Alonso ripping the "new" Vantage around a track. I can say having recently done a "hot lap" in one of these, driven by one of Aston's top drivers at an F1 track, hitting nearly 190mph on the straight, these cars when driven to the limit are incredible. Gave me a whole new appreciation for these machines, which was already high. This generation of Astons are dynamically amazing with limits way beyond what most of us will ever experience.
Alonso ripping the "new" Vantage around a track. I can say having recently done a "hot lap" in one of these, driven by one of Aston's top drivers at an F1 track, hitting nearly 190mph on the straight, these cars when driven to the limit are incredible. Gave me a whole new appreciation for these machines, which was already high. This generation of Astons are dynamically amazing with limits way beyond what most of us will ever experience.
The “mid-market” of sports cars has fallen off a cliff. Re-sale values of ICE cars are dropping dramatically (you could argue that their residual value is going towards zero) whilst new offerings still suffer from high costs due to inflationary pressure in the supply chain and labour costs. Gap between trade-in values and a new car have never been wider and the only thing shifting these days are company purchased/leased EVs where the buyer doesn’t deal with the residual risk. I just cannot see AML surviving in this market with their bread and butter models (the Vantage and DBX) being fully exposed to this diminishing and declining market.
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