Aston Martin advice from Bamford Rose independent specialist

Aston Martin advice from Bamford Rose independent specialist

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LordRowley

31 posts

79 months

Monday 13th October 2014
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Evening Mike,
Just read through the last couple of pages and seen what exalted company I am in ! By comparison, my query is rather banal I'm afraid.

I posted on the site 26th Sept "DB9 Volante - Loss of Power" and you kindly suggested I get fault codes read as a first step, then let you know.
Yesterday (12/10), I posted up a comprehensive UPDATE with thoughts & findings and tried to P.M. you but for some reason the system wouldn't let me. Hence this indirect approach.

The main fault codes were P2106 - which as you will know/see, suggest Elec Throttle Monitor Operation. This resulted in the "forced limited power" response (I assume) from the ECU, that I described originally.

The member who did the OBD check kindly sent me a lot of highly tech. commentary that he found on line himself. (There's still some great people around).

The prob occurred initially, when I stamped on the kick-down. I have driven it only a few (very cautious) miles since and (other than the Emission Service warning) "appears" to be running ok - to my untrained ears.

I have covered 2k since I bought it in May with 30k on the clock and I thought the "stutter"/misfire might be plugs/coils as I have read they can go at this mileage. You suggested possible gear selection as this became disengaged but now it looks like it could be a MAF sensor/throttle/fuel probs....?

If I take the car into Grange Aston, are they likely to be more specific about the actual fault itself & its rectification because of their AM diagnostics ?

Is it worth me asking you if this fault sounds "expensive" or is that the usual "length of a piece of string" ?

Thanking you in advance.
KDR.

BamfordMike

1,192 posts

115 months

Tuesday 14th October 2014
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Hi kdr.

the factory diagnostic system plugs into the body module together with engine module. If your guy only plugged generic fault code reader into engine controller, the report will be blind any issues outside engine controller that might have caused shutdown. That being said, the code could you report could indeed be throttle problem, but needs a more in-depth look.

the factory diagnostic tool also has a screen which reports misfire occurrences, this can reliably inform plug / coil changes needed and can be watched real time.

a more in-depth session shouldn't take anybody more than an hour, so don't fret about it

Ken Figenus

4,840 posts

75 months

Tuesday 14th October 2014
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Hi Mike - you mentioned in a chat some potential remapping for the Touchtronic II gearbox to make it a bit sharper in sport button mode? Can you furnish a bit more info and cost pls? PM is fine too. Thx

BamfordMike

1,192 posts

115 months

Tuesday 14th October 2014
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Ken Figenus said:
Hi Mike - you mentioned in a chat some potential remapping for the Touchtronic II gearbox to make it a bit sharper in sport button mode? Can you furnish a bit more info and cost pls? PM is fine too. Thx
Hi Ken.

good to hear from you.

it is possible to turn your gearbox shift maps from lazy Rapide to be reconfigured more sporty like a DBS, yes. We did this on the Rapide 2 or so pages back from here

LordRowley

31 posts

79 months

Wednesday 15th October 2014
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Thanks Mike - at least I can approach Grange "appearing" to know how I want to proceed.
Thanks once again.
KDR

Brakke

490 posts

81 months

Thursday 16th October 2014
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Hi Mike,

i tried calling over the past few weeks a few times, without luck so i thought i try it out here.
Im at a stage where i am investigating options to tune my aston experience.
Currently im running a 4.3 v8v manual with 200 cell cats.

This is my weekend car and aside from performance, its a keeper.
Therefore im interested in the 4.7 or 5.0 engine conversion programm. I need rough estimates on costs including manifolds and 3 way suspenion setup.

Any chance you can share that information?
That way i can make an informed decision as to invest or buy a v12 vantage instead.
Thanks in advance

Brakke

BamfordMike

1,192 posts

115 months

Thursday 16th October 2014
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Brakke said:
Hi Mike,

i tried calling over the past few weeks a few times, without luck so i thought i try it out here.

Brakke
hi.

sorry for you not being able to get through.

i can only guess your number comes through as withheld? Withheld numbers go to answer phone due to amount of scammers and folk wanting to change the energy, change the printer cartridge or change the water fountain provider. I must update the website to inform this. Sorry. Pm me your details and time to call you.

Brakke

490 posts

81 months

Thursday 16th October 2014
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BamfordMike said:
hi.

sorry for you not being able to get through.

i can only guess your number comes through as withheld? Withheld numbers go to answer phone due to amount of scammers and folk wanting to change the energy, change the printer cartridge or change the water fountain provider. I must update the website to inform this. Sorry. Pm me your details and time to call you.
hi Mike,
PM sent, you can reach me all day today as im working from my home office.

Thanks
Brakke

BravoV8V

1,856 posts

132 months

Thursday 16th October 2014
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Brakke said:
This is my weekend car and aside from performance, its a keeper.
<snip>
That way i can make an informed decision as to invest or buy a v12 vantage instead.
Hehehe. wink

Brakke

490 posts

81 months

Friday 17th October 2014
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BravoV8V said:
Hehehe. wink
hehe, problems prblems, i love how the vantage looks, it just lacks power.
Got the answers from mike, so now ill do some number crunching and thinking in the weekend as what is my best option....

Stefwings

31 posts

72 months

Friday 17th October 2014
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Hello to eveybody
I live in Belgium, and just bought a V8 Vantage roadster, with 24000km on the odo. (15.000 miles)
It is a 2008 sportshisft 4.3 l and would like to know from Bamfort Rose what would be the price of fitting a double plate clutch, including the ligther flywheel and damper and if it could be done this coming january...I will drive the car to their shop and stay there until the job is done, the countryside is superb as I was told.....
As I'm using this car as a daily driver and go several times a year for pretty long business trips with the car, (Italy, Switzerland) I want to make it as reliable as possible and therefore, don't want to take any risk with the clutch who seems to be the weak point of the car. On a business trip, I don't have time to deal with broken down car issues...(I hate planes!)
I send already an Email to Bamfort Rose a week ago, but didn't hear back from them...
So can someone help me to reach Mike or one of his assistants?....





Edited by Stefwings on Friday 17th October 23:28

BamfordMike

1,192 posts

115 months

Saturday 18th October 2014
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Stefwings said:
Hello to eveybody
I live in Belgium, and just bought a V8 Vantage roadster, with 24000km on the odo. (15.000 miles)
It is a 2008 sportshisft 4.3 l and would like to know from Bamfort Rose what would be the price of fitting a double plate clutch, including the ligther flywheel and damper and if it could be done this coming january...I will drive the car to their shop and stay there until the job is done, the countryside is superb as I was told.....
As I'm using this car as a daily driver and go several times a year for pretty long business trips with the car, (Italy, Switzerland) I want to make it as reliable as possible and therefore, don't want to take any risk with the clutch who seems to be the weak point of the car. On a business trip, I don't have time to deal with broken down car issues...(I hate planes!)
I send already an Email to Bamfort Rose a week ago, but didn't hear back from them...
So can someone help me to reach Mike or one of his assistants?....





Edited by Stefwings on Friday 17th October 23:28
congrats on purchase!

details of project sent!

yes, you will enjoy the driving experience of the Bamford rose loop, I'm sure...


amv12

9 posts

100 months

Friday 24th October 2014
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Hello Mike,

Regarding the small end bearing wear on the early V12’s.

On the several engines you have repaired with this issue, have you found the fault to be with specific cylinders or does it appear random.

Colin....

BamfordMike

1,192 posts

115 months

Saturday 25th October 2014
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amv12 said:
Hello Mike,

Regarding the small end bearing wear on the early V12’s.

On the several engines you have repaired with this issue, have you found the fault to be with specific cylinders or does it appear random.

Colin....
appears random.

the small end wear in isolation to liner distortion is very faint sounding metallic based tick (as opposed a dull thud) and i think can run a very long time like this with this problem without causing issue, even though noise is apparent. Its possible to listen / detect this underneath with head beside the bottom end but inside cabin is less easy to detect. The noise only develops into prompting owner to take action (because is very loud) when both small end wear and liner distortion occurs.

the liner related tick also appears random

the only repeatable failure is when run low on oil and big end bearings on last crank journal fail (6 and 12). When run to destruction (because owners cant hear what's going on until too late), the bearing is worn to a wafer, piston crashes into head (on either 6 or 12).

Ken Figenus

4,840 posts

75 months

Monday 27th October 2014
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BamfordMike said:
Ken Figenus said:
Hi Mike - you mentioned in a chat some potential remapping for the Touchtronic II gearbox to make it a bit sharper in sport button mode? Can you furnish a bit more info and cost pls? PM is fine too. Thx
Hi Ken.

good to hear from you.

it is possible to turn your gearbox shift maps from lazy Rapide to be reconfigured more sporty like a DBS, yes. We did this on the Rapide 2 or so pages back from here
Mike, can I confirm if the gearbox remap affects only auto changes and not manual paddleshift gear change speed? Thx

BamfordMike

1,192 posts

115 months

Tuesday 28th October 2014
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Ken Figenus said:
Mike, can I confirm if the gearbox remap affects only auto changes and not manual paddleshift gear change speed? Thx
yes, just makes auto shift more urgent, when in paddleshift you are in control, no changes to paddleshift speed / smoothness made

Barnezy

348 posts

73 months

Wednesday 29th October 2014
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Hi Mike, I've left you a voicemail but thought this might be an easier way to contact you.

I'd like to know the costs for:

- intake, manifold and cat upgrade. (Also your earliest availability to do this work and how long you need the car?)
- twin plate clutch and flywheel upgrade. (Will look to get this done in a 6months to a year, once I've got the most from the current clutch)
- a 30k/3 year service

My car is a 2010 Vantage V8 4.7 manual. Please PM me. Much appreciated.

Also having previously owned a Porsche, have Bamford Rose considered offering a service/warranty package like some of the excellent Porsche indies? Effectively we'd pay an annual/monthly charge which would cover running costs (annual servicing, MOT) and a warranty that covers labour costs only, should something go wrong with the car?

AJB44

3 posts

72 months

Friday 31st October 2014
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Hi mike,

My 4.7 sportsshift roadster got the BR treatment about a year ago - sports exhaust, twin plate clutch. They are great upgrades (highly recommended if anyone is considering).

However, I recently succumbed to temptation and swapped the V8 for a V12V - another great upgrade...... I will be considering BR enhancements in due course, but in the meanwhile there is a possible issue I wanted to run past you.

The car makes a noticeable whine in 6th gear at motorway speeds. Sounds like transmission whine to me. Does not happen in 5th gear or when off throttle. Worst at around 70 mph. Not deafening but irritating and I'm worried it is indicative of something not quite right. Car has done 20k miles and is otherwise like new.

Am taking it back to AM dealer where I bought it next week to show them. I expect I will be fobbed off with the usual "they all do that". Is this something I should be worried about? Thanks

AJB

Trek930

126 posts

125 months

Wednesday 5th November 2014
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Hi Mike,

Quick query. When I started up the DBS last night I had a warning message saying "Emergency Brake Assist Failure". I drove it for a bit to get her warmed up and after switching the engine off and starting up again a couple of times the warning didnt return. Is this something I should be worried about if it happens again or could it just be an electrical glitch?

I ask due to sods law Im driving back up to Aberdeen tonight for a friends wedding where ill be using my car to ferry the Groom round in and maybe a cheeky trackday on Sunday at Knockhill on the way back down! Typical timing!

Cheers, Neil

JohnG1

3,329 posts

163 months

Thursday 20th November 2014
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Ford USA have a 5.0 litre V8 in the new Mustang. It has four overhead cams, variable valve timing and lift, all aluminium construction, fly-by-wire throttle.
http://m.americanmuscle.com/coyote-crate-engine.ht...

For $6k seems like a bargain.

Any relation to the AM 4.3 and 4.7 blocks?