New BMW's getting stolen using blank BMW keys
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Mr Bimmer said:
No worries with the F series. They aren't affected with the same issue.
You may be right. But then again BMWTech may have been right when he said that the new fix given to dealers on Friday is for "ALL models from 2005 onwards".But one thing is certain: you can't both be right.
Until we have better information and firmer evidence about the latest developments, people would be well advised to stop making unsupported assertions that may no longer be correct. There's enough confusion already.
Edited by r999 on Monday 19th November 16:06
r999 said:
You may be right. But then again BMWTech may have been right when he said that the new fix given to dealers on Friday is for "ALL models from 2005 onwards".
But you can't both be right.
Until we have better information and firmer evidence about the latest developments, people would be well advised to stop making unsupported assertions that may no longer be correct. There's enough confusion already.
That's because all E9* models have used the same cas firmware since 2005. Why BMW have said pre 07 cars are unaffected is anyone's guess. But you can't both be right.
Until we have better information and firmer evidence about the latest developments, people would be well advised to stop making unsupported assertions that may no longer be correct. There's enough confusion already.
If you care to go back to page 14 you will see that the correct info was given way back then. BMW UK don't tell their dealers everything.
Dudikoff - see my previous posts about my car. I came out to find my car like that in April. Was then stolen a couple of weeks ago with the lock forced rather than the window smashed so don't assume you are safe so dont delay getting the upgrade.
Gra76 - Disklock was no good on my car can send you a picture if you want, opened it up like a piece of tin. I assumed it would do the job. I got my car back and they absolutley trashed the stearing wheel getting the lock off and smashed the windscreen with the locking arm.
Gra76 - Disklock was no good on my car can send you a picture if you want, opened it up like a piece of tin. I assumed it would do the job. I got my car back and they absolutley trashed the stearing wheel getting the lock off and smashed the windscreen with the locking arm.
barrisimo said:
Dudikoff - see my previous posts about my car. I came out to find my car like that in April. Was then stolen a couple of weeks ago with the lock forced rather than the window smashed so don't assume you are safe so dont delay getting the upgrade.
Gra76 - Disklock was no good on my car can send you a picture if you want, opened it up like a piece of tin. I assumed it would do the job. I got my car back and they absolutley trashed the stearing wheel getting the lock off and smashed the windscreen with the locking arm.
He 'possibly' already has the upgrade which is why they didn't get any further. Gra76 - Disklock was no good on my car can send you a picture if you want, opened it up like a piece of tin. I assumed it would do the job. I got my car back and they absolutley trashed the stearing wheel getting the lock off and smashed the windscreen with the locking arm.
It would be interesting to hear from Dudikoff to see if his car has been flashed at a main dealer within the last year.
Mr Bimmer said:
That's because all E9* models have used the same cas firmware since 2005. Why BMW have said pre 07 cars are unaffected is anyone's guess.
The question at issue now is whether post-2011 cars are to get the latest update, not pre-2007.Mr Bimmer said:
If you care to go back to page 14 you will see that the correct info was given way back then. BMW UK don't tell their dealers everything.
How can the "correct info" possibly have been given out in April about a new update announced on Friday 16 November? The way you put things makes it impossible for anyone to judge whether you are credible or not. If you were to tell us what last Friday's update consists of, and how it relates to earlier updates, you might be of help instead of the opposite.My car was in for a service last week actually, but no idea if it was flashed or not, nothing on service invoice.
However, it is going back tomorrow (was supposed to have been collected this morning!), to have the dreaded wastegate rattle cured, so i will be calling them to find out if the fix was already applied or can be applied when the car is with them tomorrow and wednesday.
However, it is going back tomorrow (was supposed to have been collected this morning!), to have the dreaded wastegate rattle cured, so i will be calling them to find out if the fix was already applied or can be applied when the car is with them tomorrow and wednesday.
r999 said:
How can the "correct info" possibly have been given out in April about a new update announced on Friday 16 November? The way you put things makes it impossible for anyone to judge whether you are credible or not. If you were to tell us what last Friday's update consists of, and how it relates to earlier updates, you might be of help instead of the opposite.
Just because BMW announce an update doesn't mean it wasn't already implemented in the firmware last year. barrisimo said:
Gra76 - Disklock was no good on my car can send you a picture if you want, opened it up like a piece of tin. I assumed it would do the job. I got my car back and they absolutley trashed the stearing wheel getting the lock off and smashed the windscreen with the locking arm.
That's bad news, maybe I won't sleep as easily as I was hoping. I'll look into fitting the Blackjax module next, unless they're loading it onto a low-loader that should stop them getting far in it at least.Mr Bimmer said:
Just because BMW announce an update doesn't mean it wasn't already implemented in the firmware last year.
You are asking us to believe that the fix has been available since last year, and that BMW has kept quiet about it all this time, so putting themselves through all the bad publicity and pressure this year for nothing. Not to mention all the owners who have suffered big losses and major inconvenience. All for nothing, according to you. We could all have had our cars updated last year with a fix that for some inexplicable reason BMW was keeping secret from everyone including its dealers, and all this could have been avoided.I'll leave others to judge what they make of your claims.
My May 2011 build 135i was booked in for a service tomorrow, before I knew about the Fri release of the update, so when I dropped it off this evening, I asked about this security update release, and getting it done, and they confirmed it was released on Fri and they will do the update tomorrow with the service.
r999 said:
You are asking us to believe that the fix has been available since last year, and that BMW has kept quiet about it all this time, so putting themselves through all the bad publicity and pressure this year for nothing. Not to mention all the owners who have suffered big losses and major inconvenience. All for nothing, according to you. We could all have had our cars updated last year with a fix that for some inexplicable reason BMW was keeping secret from everyone including its dealers, and all this could have been avoided.
Edited by Mr Bimmer on Monday 19th November 18:53
Given up using my disclock - wife struggles with it and I can't be arsed to go outside in the dark at 10pm when she gets home to put it on.
If the car gets nicked - so be it. A valid excuse to buy a non-BMW next time.
That said, the car goes in for some warranty work next week, so I assume they'll be doing the upgrade also.
If the car gets nicked - so be it. A valid excuse to buy a non-BMW next time.
That said, the car goes in for some warranty work next week, so I assume they'll be doing the upgrade also.
Mr Bimmer said:
r999 said:
You are asking us to believe that the fix has been available since last year, and that BMW has kept quiet about it all this time, so putting themselves through all the bad publicity and pressure this year for nothing. Not to mention all the owners who have suffered big losses and major inconvenience. All for nothing, according to you. We could all have had our cars updated last year with a fix that for some inexplicable reason BMW was keeping secret from everyone including its dealers, and all this could have been avoided.
Edited by Mr Bimmer on Monday 19th November 18:53
IF this post is correct it does raise a number of deeply serious questions.
aeropilot said:
Zyp said:
That said, the car goes in for some warranty work next week, so I assume they'll be doing the upgrade also.
They won't unless you specifically ask for it to be done.I'll make them aware again when I take the car in.
r999 said:
Mr Bimmer said:
Just because BMW announce an update doesn't mean it wasn't already implemented in the firmware last year.
You are asking us to believe that the fix has been available since last year, and that BMW has kept quiet about it all this time, so putting themselves through all the bad publicity and pressure this year for nothing. Not to mention all the owners who have suffered big losses and major inconvenience. All for nothing, according to you. We could all have had our cars updated last year with a fix that for some inexplicable reason BMW was keeping secret from everyone including its dealers, and all this could have been avoided.I'll leave others to judge what they make of your claims.
Mr Bimmer is clearly a big fanboi of BMW,or works for them in some capacity,as he seems to think that BMW have no responsibility for this fiasco,and that we as owners are solely responsible for the security of our 40K cars!
don'tbesilly said:
Mr Bimmers claims have been questioned on numerous occasions,he normally ignores the more challenging ones,or just disappears from the thread when the questions become a tad to trying.
Mr Bimmer is clearly a big fanboi of BMW,or works for them in some capacity,as he seems to think that BMW have no responsibility for this fiasco,and that we as owners are solely responsible for the security of our 40K cars!
Lol. Don't be silly. Mr Bimmer is clearly a big fanboi of BMW,or works for them in some capacity,as he seems to think that BMW have no responsibility for this fiasco,and that we as owners are solely responsible for the security of our 40K cars!
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