New BMW's getting stolen using blank BMW keys

New BMW's getting stolen using blank BMW keys

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Panda76

2,089 posts

116 months

Monday 19th November 2012
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Well I've phoned my dealer with re to the new update (posts above) available for cars from 2005 and they are adamant it's cars from March 2007 still.

Wait out a bit and see if anyone with a car earlier than March 2007 gets a new update!!

barrisimo

70 posts

202 months

Monday 19th November 2012
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Dudikoff - see my previous posts about my car. I came out to find my car like that in April. Was then stolen a couple of weeks ago with the lock forced rather than the window smashed so don't assume you are safe so dont delay getting the upgrade.

Gra76 - Disklock was no good on my car can send you a picture if you want, opened it up like a piece of tin. I assumed it would do the job. I got my car back and they absolutley trashed the stearing wheel getting the lock off and smashed the windscreen with the locking arm.


Mr Bimmer

283 posts

130 months

Monday 19th November 2012
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barrisimo said:
Dudikoff - see my previous posts about my car. I came out to find my car like that in April. Was then stolen a couple of weeks ago with the lock forced rather than the window smashed so don't assume you are safe so dont delay getting the upgrade.

Gra76 - Disklock was no good on my car can send you a picture if you want, opened it up like a piece of tin. I assumed it would do the job. I got my car back and they absolutley trashed the stearing wheel getting the lock off and smashed the windscreen with the locking arm.
He 'possibly' already has the upgrade which is why they didn't get any further.

It would be interesting to hear from Dudikoff to see if his car has been flashed at a main dealer within the last year.

r999

78 posts

120 months

Monday 19th November 2012
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Mr Bimmer said:
That's because all E9* models have used the same cas firmware since 2005. Why BMW have said pre 07 cars are unaffected is anyone's guess.
The question at issue now is whether post-2011 cars are to get the latest update, not pre-2007.

Mr Bimmer said:
If you care to go back to page 14 you will see that the correct info was given way back then. BMW UK don't tell their dealers everything.
How can the "correct info" possibly have been given out in April about a new update announced on Friday 16 November? The way you put things makes it impossible for anyone to judge whether you are credible or not. If you were to tell us what last Friday's update consists of, and how it relates to earlier updates, you might be of help instead of the opposite.


Dudikoff

30 posts

152 months

Monday 19th November 2012
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My car was in for a service last week actually, but no idea if it was flashed or not, nothing on service invoice.

However, it is going back tomorrow (was supposed to have been collected this morning!), to have the dreaded wastegate rattle cured, so i will be calling them to find out if the fix was already applied or can be applied when the car is with them tomorrow and wednesday.

Mr Bimmer

283 posts

130 months

Monday 19th November 2012
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r999 said:
How can the "correct info" possibly have been given out in April about a new update announced on Friday 16 November? The way you put things makes it impossible for anyone to judge whether you are credible or not. If you were to tell us what last Friday's update consists of, and how it relates to earlier updates, you might be of help instead of the opposite.
Just because BMW announce an update doesn't mean it wasn't already implemented in the firmware last year.

Gra76

28 posts

217 months

Monday 19th November 2012
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barrisimo said:
Gra76 - Disklock was no good on my car can send you a picture if you want, opened it up like a piece of tin. I assumed it would do the job. I got my car back and they absolutley trashed the stearing wheel getting the lock off and smashed the windscreen with the locking arm.
That's bad news, maybe I won't sleep as easily as I was hoping. I'll look into fitting the Blackjax module next, unless they're loading it onto a low-loader that should stop them getting far in it at least.

r999

78 posts

120 months

Monday 19th November 2012
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Mr Bimmer said:
Just because BMW announce an update doesn't mean it wasn't already implemented in the firmware last year.
You are asking us to believe that the fix has been available since last year, and that BMW has kept quiet about it all this time, so putting themselves through all the bad publicity and pressure this year for nothing. Not to mention all the owners who have suffered big losses and major inconvenience. All for nothing, according to you. We could all have had our cars updated last year with a fix that for some inexplicable reason BMW was keeping secret from everyone including its dealers, and all this could have been avoided.

I'll leave others to judge what they make of your claims.



aeropilot

24,485 posts

193 months

Monday 19th November 2012
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My May 2011 build 135i was booked in for a service tomorrow, before I knew about the Fri release of the update, so when I dropped it off this evening, I asked about this security update release, and getting it done, and they confirmed it was released on Fri and they will do the update tomorrow with the service.




Mr Bimmer

283 posts

130 months

Monday 19th November 2012
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r999 said:
You are asking us to believe that the fix has been available since last year, and that BMW has kept quiet about it all this time, so putting themselves through all the bad publicity and pressure this year for nothing. Not to mention all the owners who have suffered big losses and major inconvenience. All for nothing, according to you. We could all have had our cars updated last year with a fix that for some inexplicable reason BMW was keeping secret from everyone including its dealers, and all this could have been avoided.
yes

Edited by Mr Bimmer on Monday 19th November 18:53

Zyp

12,692 posts

155 months

Monday 19th November 2012
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Given up using my disclock - wife struggles with it and I can't be arsed to go outside in the dark at 10pm when she gets home to put it on.

If the car gets nicked - so be it. A valid excuse to buy a non-BMW next time.

That said, the car goes in for some warranty work next week, so I assume they'll be doing the upgrade also.

Steffan

10,362 posts

194 months

Monday 19th November 2012
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Mr Bimmer said:
r999 said:
You are asking us to believe that the fix has been available since last year, and that BMW has kept quiet about it all this time, so putting themselves through all the bad publicity and pressure this year for nothing. Not to mention all the owners who have suffered big losses and major inconvenience. All for nothing, according to you. We could all have had our cars updated last year with a fix that for some inexplicable reason BMW was keeping secret from everyone including its dealers, and all this could have been avoided.
yes

Edited by Mr Bimmer on Monday 19th November 18:53
We must recognise that the toerags stealing the cars are the real culprits. However from everything that has been posted on here it would seem that BMW have not dealt well with this.

IF this post is correct it does raise a number of deeply serious questions.

aeropilot

24,485 posts

193 months

Monday 19th November 2012
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Zyp said:
That said, the car goes in for some warranty work next week, so I assume they'll be doing the upgrade also.
They won't unless you specifically ask for it to be done.

Zyp

12,692 posts

155 months

Monday 19th November 2012
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aeropilot said:
Zyp said:
That said, the car goes in for some warranty work next week, so I assume they'll be doing the upgrade also.
They won't unless you specifically ask for it to be done.
I spoke to them when all this kicked off, so I'm on their list to be done sometime.

I'll make them aware again when I take the car in.

don'tbesilly

12,166 posts

129 months

Tuesday 20th November 2012
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r999 said:
Mr Bimmer said:
Just because BMW announce an update doesn't mean it wasn't already implemented in the firmware last year.
You are asking us to believe that the fix has been available since last year, and that BMW has kept quiet about it all this time, so putting themselves through all the bad publicity and pressure this year for nothing. Not to mention all the owners who have suffered big losses and major inconvenience. All for nothing, according to you. We could all have had our cars updated last year with a fix that for some inexplicable reason BMW was keeping secret from everyone including its dealers, and all this could have been avoided.

I'll leave others to judge what they make of your claims.
Mr Bimmers claims have been questioned on numerous occasions,he normally ignores the more challenging ones,or just disappears from the thread when the questions become a tad to trying.

Mr Bimmer is clearly a big fanboi of BMW,or works for them in some capacity,as he seems to think that BMW have no responsibility for this fiasco,and that we as owners are solely responsible for the security of our 40K cars!

Mr Bimmer

283 posts

130 months

Tuesday 20th November 2012
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don'tbesilly said:
Mr Bimmers claims have been questioned on numerous occasions,he normally ignores the more challenging ones,or just disappears from the thread when the questions become a tad to trying.

Mr Bimmer is clearly a big fanboi of BMW,or works for them in some capacity,as he seems to think that BMW have no responsibility for this fiasco,and that we as owners are solely responsible for the security of our 40K cars!
Lol. Don't be silly.

r999

78 posts

120 months

Tuesday 20th November 2012
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don'tbesilly said:
Mr Bimmers claims have been questioned on numerous occasions,he normally ignores the more challenging ones,or just disappears from the thread when the questions become a tad to trying.
Ah yes, how right you are. I shouldn't have fed the troll.

Mr Bimmer

283 posts

130 months

Tuesday 20th November 2012
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r999 said:
Ah yes, how right you are. I shouldn't have fed the troll.
Yum yum.

Now assuming you actually own a BMW ( ask permission if not). could you kindly try your actual metal key in your door lock and hold it against the stop when unlocking it from alarmed for a few seconds.

Does the window roll down?

Now do the same again with the fob, holding the unlock button from locked for a few seconds.

What happens?

r999

78 posts

120 months

Tuesday 20th November 2012
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Mr Bimmer said:
Yum yum.

Now assuming you actually own a BMW ( ask permission if not). could you kindly try your actual metal key in your door lock and hold it against the stop when unlocking it from alarmed for a few seconds.

Does the window roll down?
All four windows roll down. Followed by the panoramic roof opening.

Mr Bimmer said:
Now do the same again with the fob, holding the unlock button from locked for a few seconds.

What happens?
All four windows roll down. Followed by the panoramic roof opening.

Is that enough to shut you up for today?

Mr Bimmer

283 posts

130 months

Tuesday 20th November 2012
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r999 said:
All four windows roll down. Followed by the panoramic roof opening.

Is that enough to shut you up for today?
How rude are you?

I hope that in whatever line of work you are in that you don't act like that.

Can't you tell when someone is trying to help you.?