M140i questions?

M140i questions?

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Court_S

5,259 posts

144 months

Friday 30th October 2020
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acme said:
Armchair_Expert said:
The fuel tanks are small. You will be filling up for £60 ish, and getting around 250 miles per tank.
Thanks for that, never heard that before, and it's a pain on the E92, sometimes it needs filling at 200 miles, if it was a daily I think it would really bug me!
The tanks are a bit small. I’m filling up around 300 miles.

My vRS had a small tank but as a diesel it still be roughly 500 miles to a tank before I was back filling it up.

acme

2,594 posts

165 months

Friday 30th October 2020
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Guess the issue is in the 4.5 years I had my old MK7 Golf 1.4 TSI ACT DSG (what a mouthful!) I got use to the regular 500 miles between fills!

bodhi

6,524 posts

196 months

Friday 30th October 2020
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Armchair_Expert said:
The fuel tanks are small. You will be filling up for £60 ish, and getting around 250 miles per tank.
I'm presuming the fuel tank and resultant range are similar to my E82 125i, which I've done 16k a year in since I bought it in 2014. Only time it gets really annoying was when I had to drive to Glasgow and back in one day, filling up twice was a tad annoying, but otherwise it's no major issue. I averaged a tank every week, and the benefit of the small tank is you aren't at the petrol station very long - 5 minutes tops.

Sicksilinda

26 posts

23 months

Saturday 31st October 2020
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The tank must be 50l. The range on mine was down to 10 miles yesterday and took 45l to fill it. £50 on the nose.

Johnski

1 posts

1 month

Monday 14th June
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I have had numerous BMW's and VW's. I have had M3s, M5s, VW R32, VW Golf GTI's and anything sporty. I have the BMW 140i and I would not trade it in. It is a fun car to drive and still practical. VW's door catches seem to go run and after a few years rattle. I am not keen on four cylinder engines and front wheel drive. The new 135i is using the Mini platform. Therefore, it is a Mini with a BMW badge.

Armchair_Expert

15,980 posts

173 months

Monday 14th June
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Seeing as this thread has resurrected I would go as far as to say now is a terrible time to be buying a B58 or N55 powered BMW 1 or 2 series. Prices have absolutely rocketed over the last 12 months and personally I think they are well over inflated. Its a great time to sell or get rid if you own one, but about the worst time to buy.

If I sold my 240 now after 14 months ownership and 10k mlies, I would come away with 2k more than I paid for it at least..AT and WBAC seem to think a private sale should be at 3k more than I paid last year.

HM-2

6,516 posts

136 months

Monday 14th June
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Armchair_Expert said:
Seeing as this thread has resurrected I would go as far as to say now is a terrible time to be buying a B58 or N55 powered BMW 1 or 2 series. Prices have absolutely rocketed over the last 12 months and personally I think they are well over inflated. Its a great time to sell or get rid if you own one, but about the worst time to buy.

If I sold my 240 now after 14 months ownership and 10k mlies, I would come away with 2k more than I paid for it at least..AT and WBAC seem to think a private sale should be at 3k more than I paid last year.
In a similar vein, I bought my M140i at 6 months old over three years now and AT and WBAC suggest its lost a little under £3k in that time. I had no idea prices had rocketed so much! Only a few months ago it was showing ~£18k and now it's £21k and change.

Armchair_Expert

15,980 posts

173 months

Monday 14th June
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Its across the board as far as I know but I know the M Lites are affected in a big way. My WBAC price in December / January was 11500 ish, for the past 1 month an a bit it has been 18500. Insanity.

Deep Thought

29,069 posts

164 months

Monday 14th June
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Graph of WBAC values for our 2019 M140i....



Retail price on them must be getting very close to what we paid for ours brand new back in March 2019

Court_S

5,259 posts

144 months

Monday 14th June
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Deep Thought said:
Graph of WBAC values for our 2019 M140i....



Retail price on them must be getting very close to what we paid for ours brand new back in March 2019
It’s bonkers.

Mine went for £4.5k less than I paid for it two years ago and 22k. The WBAC price rose another £940 two weeks later. By the time you add dealer margin etc, you’re almost back to what I paid for it. Crazy.

It’s even more crazy when you look at BMW’s predictions on PCP’s. Mine was expected to shed £15k over four years or just under £3.8k per year.

It works if you want to get out into something cheaper or just get shot full shop but it’s not much use if you want to upgrade because stuff like M2’s have equally rocketed.

I’m not sure I’d be buying an M140i at today’s prices because if / when the market corrects itself it’s going really sting.

bodhi

6,524 posts

196 months

Monday 14th June
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I've been keeping an eye on 440i GC prices over the last 18 months or so waiting for them to come down in price - nothing so far. Cheapest when I started looking (ignoring silly miles / Cat S stuff) was around 22k, now they seem to start around....22k.

Is the same happening with the cooking stuff, or is it just the nice petrols that are getting silly?

Court_S

5,259 posts

144 months

Monday 14th June
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bodhi said:
I've been keeping an eye on 440i GC prices over the last 18 months or so waiting for them to come down in price - nothing so far. Cheapest when I started looking (ignoring silly miles / Cat S stuff) was around 22k, now they seem to start around....22k.

Is the same happening with the cooking stuff, or is it just the nice petrols that are getting silly?
I think it’s pretty much across the board. Looking at the used car thread in general gassing, even boggo Astra’s are commanding strong money at auction. Everyone predicted that COVID would cause a huge crash but it’s been the opposite.

RUSSELLM

5,744 posts

214 months

Monday 14th June
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Same on everything.

I bought an AUC 335D just over 2 years ago. I’ve put over 20k miles on it, and the WBAC valuation is £100 more than I paid for it smile




PTF

3,661 posts

191 months

Tuesday 15th June
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The market is indeed bananas. Anecdotal evidence i've been seeing...

Last year AUC M2s had started showing up for £27k-£29k, giving me hope that sub-£25k wasn't far away. Now they're firmly at around £31k-£33k and selling quickly.

Next on my list was an M140i, but they've done similar. Last year they were down to £17k-£19k for a nice AUC, now they're £20k+.

I missed out on an M135 last year for £10k (sensible miles, but needed brakes all round and a major service) and have been kicking myself since. Prices on those are v firm. Even early ones (2012-2013) are £15k+ as an AUC with low miles.

I've been concentrating on selling over the last year or so. I sold my 986S for what i paid for it 3 yrs ago, and i overpaid as it was local and had some jobs that needed doing. I've also sold a couple of older motorbikes for strong money compared to a couple of years ago.

I bought a new motorbike (Africa Twin) over the winter on a v attractive HP deal with a big discount. I didn't gel with it over the 1k miles i did on it. The market for those has rocketed so i sold it privately for £700 less than i paid BRAND NEW!

Finally a decent M135i popped up last month for just over £10k, albeit with basic spec. I jumped on it and it's now sitting on my driveway. I think it was underpriced by at least a grand in the current market, but i expect it to be a sub-£10k car once the market corrects. That's ok as it's absolutely brilliant!!(don't listen to the keyboard warriors that they HAVE TO have birds suspension and an LSD, plus lots of options ticked!!).

dasbimmerowner

251 posts

108 months

Tuesday 15th June
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Interesting regarding the prices this thread. I've just bunged in my '19 shadow ed 340i Touring to see what WBAC would give me for it, purchased for just over £28k with a few hundred miles on the clock in Oct 19. It's saying they'd give me just shy of £32k for it. I know I got a really really good deal on it, but I wasn't expecting that especially as I've added mileage in the last 20 months.

dutters

19 posts

78 months

Tuesday 15th June
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It is all about the context though, most cars have gone up at a comparable rate if they are also desirable. I had a Clio 220 Trophy which was going up from a WBAC perspective at a shocking rate so I sold and bought an M140i.

Pugland53

571 posts

137 months

Tuesday 15th June
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WBAC valued ours at £26k which is pretty much what our car cost (before options) in 2019, and our dealer matched it as p/x on a new car. I'll be sad to see it go (our second M140i) but its being replaced with a new M135i pro pack in September. I know its not rwd or has that great engine but my wife drives it 95% of the time and she doesn't care about any of those things!

Matt..

3,278 posts

156 months

Tuesday 15th June
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A 140i is on my list of options as my car died. Truly the worst time to need a new car.

An actual 140i question though... Is it possible to easily (and reliably) upgrade the main screen from a small one to something more capable and with CarPlay? The interior on a 140i is dated and I want some toys.

HM-2

6,516 posts

136 months

Tuesday 15th June
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Matt.. said:
A 140i is on my list of options as my car died. Truly the worst time to need a new car.

An actual 140i question though... Is it possible to easily (and reliably) upgrade the main screen from a small one to something more capable and with CarPlay? The interior on a 140i is dated and I want some toys.
Yes. There are several aftermarket companies that sell CarPlay/Android Auto screen replacements which are aesthetically identical to the 8" Pro Nav screen but have actually functional integrations.

Court_S

5,259 posts

144 months

Tuesday 15th June
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Matt.. said:
A 140i is on my list of options as my car died. Truly the worst time to need a new car.

An actual 140i question though... Is it possible to easily (and reliably) upgrade the main screen from a small one to something more capable and with CarPlay? The interior on a 140i is dated and I want some toys.
Yes, it’s really easy.

You can either go aftermarket or buy a used pro nav screen and add CarPlay separately.

The later versions of idrive like I had in mine don’t feel too bad, the screen is clear and the menu easy to navigate either with the idrive wheel or touchscreen.

I thought the F2x interior was really dated compared to a similar aged Golf until I compared the two back to back. I personally preferred the BMW interior.