M140i questions?
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anonymous said:
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I'm presuming the fuel tank and resultant range are similar to my E82 125i, which I've done 16k a year in since I bought it in 2014. Only time it gets really annoying was when I had to drive to Glasgow and back in one day, filling up twice was a tad annoying, but otherwise it's no major issue. I averaged a tank every week, and the benefit of the small tank is you aren't at the petrol station very long - 5 minutes tops. I have had numerous BMW's and VW's. I have had M3s, M5s, VW R32, VW Golf GTI's and anything sporty. I have the BMW 140i and I would not trade it in. It is a fun car to drive and still practical. VW's door catches seem to go run and after a few years rattle. I am not keen on four cylinder engines and front wheel drive. The new 135i is using the Mini platform. Therefore, it is a Mini with a BMW badge.
Deep Thought said:
Graph of WBAC values for our 2019 M140i....
Retail price on them must be getting very close to what we paid for ours brand new back in March 2019
It’s bonkers.Retail price on them must be getting very close to what we paid for ours brand new back in March 2019
Mine went for £4.5k less than I paid for it two years ago and 22k. The WBAC price rose another £940 two weeks later. By the time you add dealer margin etc, you’re almost back to what I paid for it. Crazy.
It’s even more crazy when you look at BMW’s predictions on PCP’s. Mine was expected to shed £15k over four years or just under £3.8k per year.
It works if you want to get out into something cheaper or just get shot full shop but it’s not much use if you want to upgrade because stuff like M2’s have equally rocketed.
I’m not sure I’d be buying an M140i at today’s prices because if / when the market corrects itself it’s going really sting.
I've been keeping an eye on 440i GC prices over the last 18 months or so waiting for them to come down in price - nothing so far. Cheapest when I started looking (ignoring silly miles / Cat S stuff) was around 22k, now they seem to start around....22k.
Is the same happening with the cooking stuff, or is it just the nice petrols that are getting silly?
Is the same happening with the cooking stuff, or is it just the nice petrols that are getting silly?
bodhi said:
I've been keeping an eye on 440i GC prices over the last 18 months or so waiting for them to come down in price - nothing so far. Cheapest when I started looking (ignoring silly miles / Cat S stuff) was around 22k, now they seem to start around....22k.
Is the same happening with the cooking stuff, or is it just the nice petrols that are getting silly?
I think it’s pretty much across the board. Looking at the used car thread in general gassing, even boggo Astra’s are commanding strong money at auction. Everyone predicted that COVID would cause a huge crash but it’s been the opposite.Is the same happening with the cooking stuff, or is it just the nice petrols that are getting silly?
The market is indeed bananas. Anecdotal evidence i've been seeing...
Last year AUC M2s had started showing up for £27k-£29k, giving me hope that sub-£25k wasn't far away. Now they're firmly at around £31k-£33k and selling quickly.
Next on my list was an M140i, but they've done similar. Last year they were down to £17k-£19k for a nice AUC, now they're £20k+.
I missed out on an M135 last year for £10k (sensible miles, but needed brakes all round and a major service) and have been kicking myself since. Prices on those are v firm. Even early ones (2012-2013) are £15k+ as an AUC with low miles.
I've been concentrating on selling over the last year or so. I sold my 986S for what i paid for it 3 yrs ago, and i overpaid as it was local and had some jobs that needed doing. I've also sold a couple of older motorbikes for strong money compared to a couple of years ago.
I bought a new motorbike (Africa Twin) over the winter on a v attractive HP deal with a big discount. I didn't gel with it over the 1k miles i did on it. The market for those has rocketed so i sold it privately for £700 less than i paid BRAND NEW!
Finally a decent M135i popped up last month for just over £10k, albeit with basic spec. I jumped on it and it's now sitting on my driveway. I think it was underpriced by at least a grand in the current market, but i expect it to be a sub-£10k car once the market corrects. That's ok as it's absolutely brilliant!!(don't listen to the keyboard warriors that they HAVE TO have birds suspension and an LSD, plus lots of options ticked!!).
Last year AUC M2s had started showing up for £27k-£29k, giving me hope that sub-£25k wasn't far away. Now they're firmly at around £31k-£33k and selling quickly.
Next on my list was an M140i, but they've done similar. Last year they were down to £17k-£19k for a nice AUC, now they're £20k+.
I missed out on an M135 last year for £10k (sensible miles, but needed brakes all round and a major service) and have been kicking myself since. Prices on those are v firm. Even early ones (2012-2013) are £15k+ as an AUC with low miles.
I've been concentrating on selling over the last year or so. I sold my 986S for what i paid for it 3 yrs ago, and i overpaid as it was local and had some jobs that needed doing. I've also sold a couple of older motorbikes for strong money compared to a couple of years ago.
I bought a new motorbike (Africa Twin) over the winter on a v attractive HP deal with a big discount. I didn't gel with it over the 1k miles i did on it. The market for those has rocketed so i sold it privately for £700 less than i paid BRAND NEW!
Finally a decent M135i popped up last month for just over £10k, albeit with basic spec. I jumped on it and it's now sitting on my driveway. I think it was underpriced by at least a grand in the current market, but i expect it to be a sub-£10k car once the market corrects. That's ok as it's absolutely brilliant!!(don't listen to the keyboard warriors that they HAVE TO have birds suspension and an LSD, plus lots of options ticked!!).
Interesting regarding the prices this thread. I've just bunged in my '19 shadow ed 340i Touring to see what WBAC would give me for it, purchased for just over £28k with a few hundred miles on the clock in Oct 19. It's saying they'd give me just shy of £32k for it. I know I got a really really good deal on it, but I wasn't expecting that especially as I've added mileage in the last 20 months.
WBAC valued ours at £26k which is pretty much what our car cost (before options) in 2019, and our dealer matched it as p/x on a new car. I'll be sad to see it go (our second M140i) but its being replaced with a new M135i pro pack in September. I know its not rwd or has that great engine but my wife drives it 95% of the time and she doesn't care about any of those things!
A 140i is on my list of options as my car died. Truly the worst time to need a new car.
An actual 140i question though... Is it possible to easily (and reliably) upgrade the main screen from a small one to something more capable and with CarPlay? The interior on a 140i is dated and I want some toys.
An actual 140i question though... Is it possible to easily (and reliably) upgrade the main screen from a small one to something more capable and with CarPlay? The interior on a 140i is dated and I want some toys.
Matt.. said:
A 140i is on my list of options as my car died. Truly the worst time to need a new car.
An actual 140i question though... Is it possible to easily (and reliably) upgrade the main screen from a small one to something more capable and with CarPlay? The interior on a 140i is dated and I want some toys.
Yes. There are several aftermarket companies that sell CarPlay/Android Auto screen replacements which are aesthetically identical to the 8" Pro Nav screen but have actually functional integrations.An actual 140i question though... Is it possible to easily (and reliably) upgrade the main screen from a small one to something more capable and with CarPlay? The interior on a 140i is dated and I want some toys.
Matt.. said:
A 140i is on my list of options as my car died. Truly the worst time to need a new car.
An actual 140i question though... Is it possible to easily (and reliably) upgrade the main screen from a small one to something more capable and with CarPlay? The interior on a 140i is dated and I want some toys.
Yes, it’s really easy.An actual 140i question though... Is it possible to easily (and reliably) upgrade the main screen from a small one to something more capable and with CarPlay? The interior on a 140i is dated and I want some toys.
You can either go aftermarket or buy a used pro nav screen and add CarPlay separately.
The later versions of idrive like I had in mine don’t feel too bad, the screen is clear and the menu easy to navigate either with the idrive wheel or touchscreen.
I thought the F2x interior was really dated compared to a similar aged Golf until I compared the two back to back. I personally preferred the BMW interior.
Court_S said:
I thought the F2x interior was really dated compared to a similar aged Golf until I compared the two back to back. I personally preferred the BMW interior.
I have a sensible car list and a fun car list. Not sure which way to go yet. BMW/VW/Audi. 2017/18.
VW is perhaps the worst interior, but has better media screen with CarPlay and a digital dash.
Audi is the best interior (A4 Avant) and can have CarPlay and virtual cockpit. It also just feels of a different generation.
The BMW is ok. But old tech. No digital dash. A CD player(!). Limited CarPlay options. Etc…
If I can easily resolve problems like small screen with no CarPlay then it adds to reasons to look at BMW.
Matt.. said:
I have a sensible car list and a fun car list. Not sure which way to go yet.
BMW/VW/Audi. 2017/18.
VW is perhaps the worst interior, but has better media screen with CarPlay and a digital dash.
Audi is the best interior (A4 Avant) and can have CarPlay and virtual cockpit. It also just feels of a different generation.
The BMW is ok. But old tech. No digital dash. A CD player(!). Limited CarPlay options. Etc…
If I can easily resolve problems like small screen with no CarPlay then it adds to reasons to look at BMW.
The LCI2 dials I had in my my 140i were nice in my opinion, more modern than the older traditional ones and were very clean to look at.BMW/VW/Audi. 2017/18.
VW is perhaps the worst interior, but has better media screen with CarPlay and a digital dash.
Audi is the best interior (A4 Avant) and can have CarPlay and virtual cockpit. It also just feels of a different generation.
The BMW is ok. But old tech. No digital dash. A CD player(!). Limited CarPlay options. Etc…
If I can easily resolve problems like small screen with no CarPlay then it adds to reasons to look at BMW.
CarPlay was easy to add to my car, and it was full screen. Worked well.
The actual interface of how you used the pro nav was better than the stuff from VAG despite looking older; the idrive wheel was great, the shirt cut buttons were useful and the menus etc were easy to navigate. Mine was touchscreen not I ever used it because of finger prints!
It probably lacks the showroom appeal, but it’s easy to use and live with.The A4 should have a better interior; it’s the class above and assuming you’re looking at the current shape was designed recently whereas the F2x was released in 2012. BMW haven’t been strong with the digital dash though. The current one is bloody awful in my opinion.
Edited by Court_S on Wednesday 16th June 17:55
Court_S said:
The LCI2 dials I had in my my 140i were nice in my opinion, more modern than the older traditional ones and were very clean to look at.
CarPlay was easy to add to my car, and it was full screen. Worked well.
The actual interface of how you used the pro nav was better than the stuff from VAG despite looking older; the idrive wheel was great, the shirt cut buttons were useful and the menus etc were easy to navigate. Mine was touchscreen not I ever used it because of finger prints! It probably lacks the showroom appeal, but it’s easy to use and live with.
I've had this conversation with a few work colleagues before when comparing BMW and VAG interiors. The VAG stuff tends to look better when you are sitting still, the BMW versions are far more useable when you're actually driving. Even the dated old thing in my non I-Drive E82 might not look great, but everything is within easy reach - and more importantly - easy to use without taking your eyes off the wheel. CarPlay was easy to add to my car, and it was full screen. Worked well.
The actual interface of how you used the pro nav was better than the stuff from VAG despite looking older; the idrive wheel was great, the shirt cut buttons were useful and the menus etc were easy to navigate. Mine was touchscreen not I ever used it because of finger prints!
It probably lacks the showroom appeal, but it’s easy to use and live with.Although I must say, I'm looking at the complaints about the M140i dash being dated, looking at the Dot Matrix display on my radio and muttering something about "Bloody luxury"
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