M340i

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2 GKC

1,957 posts

108 months

Friday 5th May 2023
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Quite a few new ones in the dealer network at the moment

sunnyb13

975 posts

41 months

Friday 12th May 2023
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2 GKC said:
Quite a few new ones in the dealer network at the moment
I've noticed cinch.co.uk has had an influx of M340i's all YG or YC prefix on 71 plates.

williamp

19,370 posts

276 months

Friday 12th May 2023
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I posted this on another thread but thought jts worth repeating here: a boring topicmon fuel consumption on the M340i (2021)

From yestsrday:

[url=https://flic.kr/p/2ozxNcb]

So thats derby to tunbridge wells, doing 70mph wherever I can. Averaging over 64mph.... and just over 48mpg.

..amd the range left
[url=https://flic.kr/p/2ozCFwa]

So, in theory, doing 70mph, the car thinks it can do 544 miles on a tank. Of petrol. And its also 370-odd bhp comfortable saloon.
I am very pleased with mine!
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Back today and with traffic and a few lead-footed moments, just over 40mpg for the round trip. Mine has the mild hybrid system.
One benefit of the car in heavy traffic: with anticipation, you can accelerate into gaps which are just opening.


Newc

1,920 posts

185 months

Sunday 21st May 2023
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Bought a 2020 saloon recently as a general family car.

Most uncomfortable car I've ever owned. Suspension made out of girders, and none of the comfort / adaptive settings make any difference. And the seats are shockingly bad. Thin hard padding with no give, and can't get the position to be anything that doesn't force my lower back into a 60° angle.

Six weeks in but going to get rid I think, and maybe look at an A6 or a Ghibli.

Main dealer AUC, so I didn't do much more than drive it round the block and press all the console buttons before buying. So it's all on me, but strong recommendation for other prospective buyers: get a long test drive.

JNW1

7,915 posts

197 months

Sunday 21st May 2023
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Newc said:
Bought a 2020 saloon recently as a general family car.

Most uncomfortable car I've ever owned. Suspension made out of girders, and none of the comfort / adaptive settings make any difference. And the seats are shockingly bad. Thin hard padding with no give, and can't get the position to be anything that doesn't force my lower back into a 60° angle.

Six weeks in but going to get rid I think, and maybe look at an A6 or a Ghibli.

Main dealer AUC, so I didn't do much more than drive it round the block and press all the console buttons before buying. So it's all on me, but strong recommendation for other prospective buyers: get a long test drive.
Surprised to hear you say that, I always found the ride in my G21 M340i perfectly comfortable in either Adaptive or Comfort mode; out of interest which car(s) have you owned that make the M340i suspension feel like it's made out of girders?!

In terms of the seats, do yours have the adjustable lumbar support? Scandalous it was an optional extra on such an expensive car but it does make a difference. Having said that I'd have to say the standard seats are adequate and no more; the M-Sport seats weren't an option when I got mine but I'd definitely spec them if I was ordering again now.


Vee

3,100 posts

237 months

Sunday 21st May 2023
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Hope it is not that bad !
I'm changing from a 2017 M3 Competition for a 6 month old M340i this week.
The adaptive on the M3 there is a noticeble difference between the suspension settings.
Loved the M3 but the UK roads and traffic are terrible meaning I enjoy it less and less these days. Was hoping for a much more compliant ride from the M340i.
Haven't driven the G20 car but I don't really like anything else at that size and price point so will live with it.

Edited by Vee on Sunday 21st May 10:47

Newc

1,920 posts

185 months

Sunday 21st May 2023
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JNW1 said:
Newc said:
Bought a 2020 saloon recently as a general family car.

Most uncomfortable car I've ever owned. Suspension made out of girders, and none of the comfort / adaptive settings make any difference. And the seats are shockingly bad. Thin hard padding with no give, and can't get the position to be anything that doesn't force my lower back into a 60° angle
Surprised to hear you say that, I always found the ride in my G21 M340i perfectly comfortable in either Adaptive or Comfort mode; out of interest which car(s) have you owned that make the M340i suspension feel like it's made out of girders?!

In terms of the seats, do yours have the adjustable lumbar support? Scandalous it was an optional extra on such an expensive car but it does make a difference. Having said that I'd have to say the standard seats are adequate and no more; the M-Sport seats weren't an option when I got mine but I'd definitely spec them if I was ordering again now.
I've had all sorts of I-expect-this-to-be-firm stuff in the past - 911's, ferraris, small lambos, M5, etc - and sure they are firm but I guess the word for the 340 is lack of pliancy. You go over a bump say in a 911 and you feel the wheel move but the impact is absorbed. Hit a hole in the 340 and every millimetre of the movement gets transferred to the cabin and then the seat isn't soaking up any of the pain either.

If it was an Atom or a Caterham I'd be 'yeah, OK', but this is a 4-door saloon with a performance bias.

Yes got the lumbar support, but just cannot get comfortable. I think - but IANABackSurgeon - it's because the base of the seat is always inclined up at the front so right away you're reducing the spine angle. But I don't know enough about it to be able to describe the problem properly, IYSWIM.


Vee said:
Hope it is not that bad !
I'm changing from a 2017 M3 Competition for a 6 month old M340i this week.
The adaptive on the M3 there is a noticeble difference between the suspension settings.
Loved the M3 but the UK roads and traffic are terrible meaning I enjoy it less and less these days. Was hoping for a much more compliant ride from the M340i.
I guess it will be relatively more compliant than an M3 but I'd still recommend a longer test drive over your familiar roads if you can.




bad company

19,026 posts

269 months

Sunday 21st May 2023
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Newc said:
Bought a 2020 saloon recently as a general family car.

Most uncomfortable car I've ever owned. Suspension made out of girders, and none of the comfort / adaptive settings make any difference. And the seats are shockingly bad. Thin hard padding with no give, and can't get the position to be anything that doesn't force my lower back into a 60° angle.

Six weeks in but going to get rid I think, and maybe look at an A6 or a Ghibli.

Main dealer AUC, so I didn't do much more than drive it round the block and press all the console buttons before buying. So it's all on me, but strong recommendation for other prospective buyers: get a long test drive.
Astonishing. I bought my G20 new in March 2020, it’s the best every day driver I’ve ever had.

Nothing wrong with the suspension, ride or seats imo.

JNW1

7,915 posts

197 months

Sunday 21st May 2023
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Newc said:
JNW1 said:
Newc said:
Bought a 2020 saloon recently as a general family car.

Most uncomfortable car I've ever owned. Suspension made out of girders, and none of the comfort / adaptive settings make any difference. And the seats are shockingly bad. Thin hard padding with no give, and can't get the position to be anything that doesn't force my lower back into a 60° angle
Surprised to hear you say that, I always found the ride in my G21 M340i perfectly comfortable in either Adaptive or Comfort mode; out of interest which car(s) have you owned that make the M340i suspension feel like it's made out of girders?!

In terms of the seats, do yours have the adjustable lumbar support? Scandalous it was an optional extra on such an expensive car but it does make a difference. Having said that I'd have to say the standard seats are adequate and no more; the M-Sport seats weren't an option when I got mine but I'd definitely spec them if I was ordering again now.
I've had all sorts of I-expect-this-to-be-firm stuff in the past - 911's, ferraris, small lambos, M5, etc - and sure they are firm but I guess the word for the 340 is lack of pliancy. You go over a bump say in a 911 and you feel the wheel move but the impact is absorbed. Hit a hole in the 340 and every millimetre of the movement gets transferred to the cabin and then the seat isn't soaking up any of the pain either.

If it was an Atom or a Caterham I'd be 'yeah, OK', but this is a 4-door saloon with a performance bias.

Yes got the lumbar support, but just cannot get comfortable. I think - but IANABackSurgeon - it's because the base of the seat is always inclined up at the front so right away you're reducing the spine angle. But I don't know enough about it to be able to describe the problem properly, IYSWIM.
We have our fair share of badly surfaced roads where I live and even on run-flats I generally felt the ride in my M340i was fine; perhaps a touch floaty when making progress over a twisty, undulating, road, but for the most part decent when it came to bump absorption. The crashiness you're experiencing wasn't really in evidence unless you hit nasty pothole at speed (which I did once in the dark and the noise and jolt was such I was relieved not to have either burst a tyre or damaged a wheel in the process!).

I agree the standard seats aren't the best but at 5'11" and average build I never found them uncomfortable; on a number of occasions I did stints of more than two hours behind the wheel and never got out with backache. But there are certainly better seats out there (not least the M-Sports that are now available as an option on the M340i).


williamp

19,370 posts

276 months

Tuesday 23rd May 2023
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One thing I want to look at is the apina spec "comfort plus" which makes a more comfortable ride when I dont want to drive like me pants are on fire.

There is an app you can get which conne ts to the car and changes the software. Has anyone tried this.?

Jonny Wishbone

906 posts

49 months

Tuesday 23rd May 2023
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williamp said:
One thing I want to look at is the apina spec "comfort plus" which makes a more comfortable ride when I dont want to drive like me pants are on fire.

There is an app you can get which conne ts to the car and changes the software. Has anyone tried this.?
I own a G21 Alpina B3, so not quite comparing like with like (different suspension, wheels and tyres). With that caveat out the way I can say whilst it makes a difference, it’s not huge.

The only substantial dynamic “failing” of my car is a hard edge to the ride over very bad surfaces. That’s as much to do with the ridiculous 30 profile rubber as anything else and there’s only so much tweaked damper settings can do to mitigate this.

So Comfort Plus makes the car slightly more wafty on the motorway but does nothing much to alleviate the transmission of jolts due to potholes through the cabin.

philmots

4,635 posts

263 months

Wednesday 24th May 2023
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Newc said:
I guess it will be relatively more compliant than an M3 but I'd still recommend a longer test drive over your familiar roads if you can.
You can alter the angle of the front of the seat so it’s not angled up all the time, the front and back of the seat raise/lower independently.

Re suspension, I’d get it checked over.. there’s quite a big difference between comfort and sport, comfort on mine (compared to previous hot hatches) is like a magic carpet!

Newc

1,920 posts

185 months

Wednesday 24th May 2023
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philmots said:
Newc said:
I guess it will be relatively more compliant than an M3 but I'd still recommend a longer test drive over your familiar roads if you can.
You can alter the angle of the front of the seat so it’s not angled up all the time, the front and back of the seat raise/lower independently.

Re suspension, I’d get it checked over.. there’s quite a big difference between comfort and sport, comfort on mine (compared to previous hot hatches) is like a magic carpet!
Seat - I don't think the base ever goes completely flat, but I'll have another go.

Suspension - I've got a couple of trade in offers, which were as knee in the nuts as you'd expect. So I am wondering whether throwing a few hundred at a suspension specialist is worthwhile or just good money after bad. That said it's not had any time back on the dealer ramp yet, got to sort that out when I'm back from biz trip, though if something is broken how did it get through AUC.

Vee

3,100 posts

237 months

Thursday 25th May 2023
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Agree with getting it checked out.
I've had mine less than 48 hours but it is as compliant as I'd hoped - I realise my frame of reference is my old M3 but as the previous poster said there is a big and noticable difference between Comfort and Sport. If you are not seeing that then the car probably needs a look.

bad company

19,026 posts

269 months

Thursday 25th May 2023
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2 GKC said:
Quite a few new ones in the dealer network at the moment
I just took a look on the BMW website, there’s a few but nothing like the spec I want when I replace mine. I’m at 3 years and 2 months though I usually change at 3 years so no need for an MOT. Can’t decide what to buy next. scratchchin

Vee

3,100 posts

237 months

Friday 26th May 2023
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It is daft that a car costing this much new doesn't come with electric memory seats as standard - they're only part of the Comfort Plus pack.
The Head Up display (part of the Live Cockpit Plus option) also seems to be very sought after, meaning the car needs Technology Pack.
This past month I've been watching daily, cars registered last September and used by employees are the ones coming onto the network, only a few come up with both Comfort Plus and Technology Packs, and they go extremely quickly.
Otherwise they have one or other which is a compromise.



Edited by Vee on Friday 26th May 08:36

HM-2

12,467 posts

172 months

Friday 26th May 2023
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I really hate the trend of bundling all options into packs, drives me mad. I know it makes stuff easier for the dealers and manufacturers but I resent the notion of having to pay £3k to buy 3 options I don't want in order to get the 1 I do.

sunnyb13

975 posts

41 months

Friday 26th May 2023
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bad company said:
2 GKC said:
Quite a few new ones in the dealer network at the moment
I just took a look on the BMW website, there’s a few but nothing like the spec I want when I replace mine. I’m at 3 years and 2 months though I usually change at 3 years so no need for an MOT. Can’t decide what to buy next. scratchchin
an MOT is only like £30?

Vee

3,100 posts

237 months

Friday 26th May 2023
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Hassle getting it booked in, then the hard sell on brakes being low, tyres wearing unevenly, etc, etc
Some people just want a car where they have no need to go the dealers

simonwhite2000

2,486 posts

100 months

Friday 26th May 2023
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HM-2 said:
I really hate the trend of bundling all options into packs, drives me mad. I know it makes stuff easier for the dealers and manufacturers but I resent the notion of having to pay £3k to buy 3 options I don't want in order to get the 1 I do.
Exactly! Audi were the worst. I had an S5 in 2017 with a HUD it was £1,250 as an option. Then they moved to trim levels and it meant you could only get a HUD with a Vorsprung that was about another £5k. Stupid.