Loud Bikes or quiet

Loud Bikes or quiet

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28,151 posts

153 months

Monday 13th July
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Rat_Fink_67 said:
PushedDover said:
No we haven't
Nice argument, give yourself a sticker. So nowhere in here it's been mentioned by more than two or three posters that it's the sound of noisy twins that they object to the most? rolleyes
"More than two or three posters" doesn't mean that we've established it's Harleys or noisy twins are what most people object to.

klootzak

503 posts

173 months

Monday 13th July
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Rat_Fink_67 said:
It's nothing to do with consideration for others.
Utterly disagree. It has everything to do with consideration for others.

I love a fruity exhaust, but I completely understand that other people don't. My enjoyment doesn't trump their discomfort (or annoyance). That's just part of being a member of a civil society.

Rat_Fink_67 said:
Noisy OE or aftermarket exhausts aren't a new thing, they've been around as long as motorcycles in the first place, but it's only now people spew about it,
Once again, no. People have moaned about noisy motorbikes for as long as I've been riding (since the 70s), and probably since long before then.

A modicum of consideration is all it takes to get them to back off and leave us alone.

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norlio

17 posts

4 months

Monday 13th July
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Rat_Fink_67 said:
It's nothing to do with consideration for others. There isn't a set standard or threshold of what constitutes being considerate or not in any of lifes actions...it's all open to individual interpretation.

What some people find acceptable, the next person may not. What one person laughs at, the next may be offended, who's right and who's wrong out of the two? And there's the rub, in that scenario it's always the one who's "offended" that feels it should go there way. Same with the bike exhaust thing, saying there's 14 pages on here and most people think that it outrageous or selfish doesn't make it scientific fact. It's probably more a case of those who aren't fussed about it don't need to express it so emotively. But as with with most things of this nature, those who find noisy exhausts an issue automatically feel as if their view should be vehemently supported, otherwise you're a council lout. All offenders must be punished etc. For every person that claims to hate the sound of an open Akra system on a Ducati for example, there'll be someone else who'll give a thumbs up or a smile...but they don't count, because they're obviously wrong.

Like I said in my original post in this thread, I live near a long straight road and there are often noisy cars and bikes going past at varying degrees of noise, particularly in the summer. I don't really care to be honest.

Noisy OE or aftermarket exhausts aren't a new thing, they've been around as long as motorcycles in the first place, but it's only now people spew about it, because it's the modern way of moaning about everything. And it isn't just exhausts, because if motorbikes were made silent tomorrow, the moaners would just move on to moaning about something else...planes flying over, dogs barking, the local bus is too smokey, next-door-but-five have painted their garage door a colour they don't like. The moany NIMBY culture, the want and desire to control everyone else's every action to suit their own agenda.
Really not convinced it’s a 1:1 ratio of those who like it, to those who don’t. I live near a regular Sunday meet up point for bikes that’s also a popular rural walk for families, hardcore walkers and MTBers alike. When someone pulls into the parking area with a loud exhaust, it’s usually with a couple of unnecessary twists of the throttle and the general consensus around the place is “knob”. The rider then pulls up. gets off their bike and struts around like they’re a living god. It’s funny how unaware they are.

There’s a kid near me who’s had his A3 remapped and now it just makes a ridiculous crashing, banging and farting noise. He thinks it sounds awesome. It’s funny watching how many give him the wker sign as he drives past.

I’ll admit I think loud exhausts are st, especially ones that are just loud for the sake of loud, I don’t mind ones that are a little bit louder than normal, but there is a difference. Sometimes less is more.

There are plenty of other things around noise that bug me, kids who insist on parking up, turning their car stereo up to the max and then playing some ste music, that’s either oof oof oof oof oof incessantly, or some warbly woman singing like a child.

Noise isn’t good, and louder is rarely better

PushedDover

1,742 posts

10 months

Monday 13th July
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Rat_Fink_67 said:
PushedDover said:
No we haven't
Nice argument, give yourself a sticker. So nowhere in here it's been mentioned by more than two or three posters that it's the sound of noisy twins that they object to the most? rolleyes
If you’d care, please recount the comments in the thread on whether it it is Loud Bikes, HDs, or Sports bike the thread is opposed to.
Whilst there has been a fair amount of comments or ridicule on the HD sector, that is likely to be steered by the OP and posts. To state that it is the focal point of the objections would only fuel the narcissism.


You claimed in an authoritative tone that this thread has selected HDs as the main point of the noise objections
I’m said I do not believe that is not the case.

You made the claim. You back up your statement.



(and without the snark if poss. please)

Edited by PushedDover on Monday 13th July 12:57

Rat_Fink_67

2,177 posts

163 months

Monday 13th July
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PushedDover said:
If you’d care, please recount the comments in the thread on whether it it is Loud Bikes, HDs, or Sports bike the thread is opposed to.
Whilst there has been a fair amount of comments or ridicule on the HD sector, that is likely to be steered by the OP and posts. To state that it is the focal point of the objections would only fuel the narcissism.


You claimed in an authoritative tone that this thread has selected HDs as the main point of the noise objections
I’m said I do not believe that is not the case.

You made the claim. You back up your statement.



(and without the snark if poss. please)
If you'd like to take a step back from forcing your agenda for a second...I didn't say that Harleys or twins were the "focal point" of the objections, I said they were what people seemed to object to the most. Not that that type of bike was the only target of the complaints.

I "claimed in a authoritative tone"...did I? I think where authoritative tones are concerned you perhaps want to look closer to home.

thatdude

2,334 posts

84 months

Monday 13th July
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MaverickV12 said:
As a Harley Davidson rider, I believe its my divine duty to provide a musical note that all pedestrians and others can stop, look and listen to.....



Personally, mine would wake the dead..... just the way it should be. My worst nightmare would be an electric bike
Yes!!!! Finally someone with a REAL mans bike! If it doesn't shake the mortar out from the bricks I dont't even want to know it exists.


[/sarcasm]

I dont mind slightly louder bikes, but there's loud and there's noisy. You can get loud bikes with a good quality exhaust system that sound good - good tone etc. You can get loud bikes with a stty cut-down exhaust "silencer" that sound even roe unpleasant than a group of small children screaming down the place in that blood-curdling way kids can scream. Of course it's all subjective, but I do think some people buy the cheapest st of ebay they can find, bodge it onto their bike and convince themselves it must sound good because it's much much louder / noisier. I dont know how some people can ride some bikes with how ear-pearcingly loud they are, whilst other bikes sound really nice. Thre;s more than just the volumne of the sound, there's all the other attributes .

FWIW I think harelys sound wk.


andburg

3,917 posts

126 months

Monday 13th July
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problem with Harley's is mainly sportsters as they're more accessible for younger riders, they want a louder exhaust but they don't have the cash so they do it cheap, shorter exhausts have less metal so they're cheaper.

The big trend now is for LAF pipes (loud as fk) which come from the ports and just pass the soles of your feet. £100
V&H Short shots or similar can be had from about £450 not including the quiet baffles, something with a silencer on the end and you're adding another £300.

Its like a my first Harley starter set, tank lift, black/silver number plate, LAF or pipes or short shots and fit Avon Cobras. Its this type of "individual" mentality that means despite riding a HD I'm not a member of any HD social groups.

The bigger Harleys tend to be quieter, they cost more and the riders spend more on quality parts.

I personally wouldn't buy an exhaust system that didn't reach the end back of the bike, i must be getting old!

EggsBenedict

1,467 posts

131 months

Monday 13th July
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It's less the fact that an exhaust is loud that gets me, and more that there seems to be a pretty decent correlation between people who have them and people who think it's brilliant to rev the bullocks off the bike and blip the throttle all the frigging time. I live in a village on a B road, and there are a fair few absolute bellends who have race cans and wang through the village at at least 2x the 30mph speed limit (if owners of V4 YEH and V4 YEP are reading this, then yeah, you are bellends, even though you have nice bikes). It's pretty unecessary. I wouldn't be bothered if people had race cans and toddled through in 5th gear at 30 - you'd hardly notice. But d1ckheads riding through at 60 in 2nd because sounds good? Feck off you nobbers.

Krikkit

19,172 posts

138 months

Monday 13th July
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EggsBenedict said:
It's less the fact that an exhaust is loud that gets me, and more that there seems to be a pretty decent correlation between people who have them and people who think it's brilliant to rev the bullocks off the bike and blip the throttle all the frigging time. I live in a village on a B road, and there are a fair few absolute bellends who have race cans and wang through the village at at least 2x the 30mph speed limit (if owners of V4 YEH and V4 YEP are reading this, then yeah, you are bellends, even though you have nice bikes). It's pretty unecessary. I wouldn't be bothered if people had race cans and toddled through in 5th gear at 30 - you'd hardly notice. But d1ckheads riding through at 60 in 2nd because sounds good? Feck off you nobbers.
Yep agree with all that - they're the kind of bikers that give everyone a bad name. Using speed inappropriately and noisily in urban environments where the poor buggers who live there have to suffer it.

Dont like rolls

3,798 posts

11 months

Monday 13th July
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Krikkit said:
EggsBenedict said:
It's less the fact that an exhaust is loud that gets me, and more that there seems to be a pretty decent correlation between people who have them and people who think it's brilliant to rev the bullocks off the bike and blip the throttle all the frigging time. I live in a village on a B road, and there are a fair few absolute bellends who have race cans and wang through the village at at least 2x the 30mph speed limit (if owners of V4 YEH and V4 YEP are reading this, then yeah, you are bellends, even though you have nice bikes). It's pretty unecessary. I wouldn't be bothered if people had race cans and toddled through in 5th gear at 30 - you'd hardly notice. But d1ckheads riding through at 60 in 2nd because sounds good? Feck off you nobbers.
Yep agree with all that - they're the kind of bikers that give everyone a bad name. Using speed inappropriately and noisily in urban environments where the poor buggers who live there have to suffer it.
Yep: Isle of Mann TT wanabes

PushedDover

1,742 posts

10 months

Tuesday 14th July
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EggsBenedict said:
........ and blip the throttle all the frigging time. ........
I asked this earlier of the Bikers on here. no answer.
Why is it the need on Bike - thats the Sprts bike, otr the HD for the pedant - to blip the throttle at all when in traffic / stationary.


What do you honestly believe the need or intention in this ?

andburg

3,917 posts

126 months

Tuesday 14th July
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PushedDover said:
EggsBenedict said:
........ and blip the throttle all the frigging time. ........
I asked this earlier of the Bikers on here. no answer.
Why is it the need on Bike - thats the Sprts bike, otr the HD for the pedant - to blip the throttle at all when in traffic / stationary.


What do you honestly believe the need or intention in this ?
i think thats boredom...I dont do it but when sat in traffic or at lights with no music like I'd have in the car it has been tempting in the past.

the cueball

410 posts

12 months

Tuesday 14th July
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I give my bikes a small (I honestly mean a small one) blip when going from neutral to first at lights etc... Always done this from waay back in the day - it’s automatic now.

Sure it was something to do with checking the bike was actually in first, but now that I type that out... it doesn’t make much sense lol paperbag




bogie

14,816 posts

229 months

Tuesday 14th July
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PushedDover said:
EggsBenedict said:
........ and blip the throttle all the frigging time. ........
I asked this earlier of the Bikers on here. no answer.
Why is it the need on Bike - thats the Sprts bike, otr the HD for the pedant - to blip the throttle at all when in traffic / stationary.


What do you honestly believe the need or intention in this ?
No idea, never done it, I think some people do it habitually without thinking ...maybe they have owned a bike which stalled a lot when they were a teenager learning wink


Countdown

28,151 posts

153 months

Tuesday 14th July
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Reminded me of this guy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVmSK89y_-U

That mainly seems knobbish to me. Is there a reason for it?

unident

1,866 posts

8 months

Tuesday 14th July
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PushedDover said:
I asked this earlier of the Bikers on here. no answer.
Why is it the need on Bike - thats the Sprts bike, otr the HD for the pedant - to blip the throttle at all when in traffic / stationary.


What do you honestly believe the need or intention in this ?
Because they’re bellends.

bogie

14,816 posts

229 months

Tuesday 14th July
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Countdown said:
Reminded me of this guy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVmSK89y_-U

That mainly seems knobbish to me. Is there a reason for it?
yep knobbish smile

tvrolet

3,818 posts

239 months

Tuesday 14th July
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If we must do knobishness, then sure blipping the throttle at a standstill ranks up there - but the clear winner is sitting at full throttle with it bouncing off the rev limiter. While throttle blips may be the favorite of the HD brigade, this seem to be the annoyance of choice of power rangers on 4 cylinder bikes (clearly not all, but I've never seen/heard anyone who wasn't in full leathers on a four doing it).

At any gathering of bikes there will be some tit there bouncing off the rev limiter for seconds at a time. Apart from the tt in the saddle, does anyone get impressed by this godawful racket?

PushedDover

1,742 posts

10 months

Tuesday 14th July
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scratchchin

Yet, oddly enough those here defending their loud bikes seem to have lost the ability to stand up and be counted on this one?

Chicken dinner

2,809 posts

25 months

Tuesday 14th July
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PushedDover said:
scratchchin

Yet, oddly enough those here defending their loud bikes seem to have lost the ability to stand up and be counted on this one?
Some of us are working for a living and lost interest in this thread some time ago.

It’s not a game of last man standing you plank