KTM gone into administration?

[KTMsm]

I'm in the garage fixing my 990 Adv

Starter relay has broken AND the heated grips have too



Only done 51k and 17 years old

Austrian POS !

[snagzie]

It looks a fk-load older than 17 years and 50k miles tbh

[SteveKTMer]

KTMsm said:

I'm in the garage fixing my 990 Adv

Starter relay has broken AND the heated grips have too



Only done 51k and 17 years old

Austrian POS !

I don't believe that's a real KTM, you're obviously not being honest . My mate said, and he hasn't ever had a KTM, but his mate Dave told him, so it must be true, that all KTMs dissolve at 7 years old.

[KTMsm]

snagzie said:

It looks a fk-load older than 17 years and 50k miles tbh

Previous owner took it all around Morocco

I'm green laning it, I tend to drop it at at least twice a day and I'm certainly not the first to do so

It's for riding, not cleaning

I've twisted the wires together so now I have heated grips again

I didn't actually drop it this time - I pushed it over to get out of a rut

Edited by KTMsm on Thursday 28th November 16:21

[Bob_Defly]

SteveKTMer said:

A Honda rider looks back at his bike parked in the town hotel garage, smelling of Brute 66, and thinks, fu*k me that was beautifully uneventful, I hope there's some beige food in the restaurant.

I look back at mine and think, do I have the energy to pick it up again.

[Biker9090]

Evo Sean said:

Exactly this. Having a pretty bike, even if beauty is in the eye of the beholder, means I'll want to ride it more and leave it parked outside a cafe or biker meet etc. Rather than hide it out of site due the shame of it!

I think the S1000XR and Ducati MS are both pretty bikes these days. Not beautiful but not "oh my ****ing jesus, look at the KTM" ugly.

I couldn't care less how a bike looks. I just want it to be reliable (and have a good reputation for reliability) and want to be out riding it - not peacoking infront of others at Cafes playing measure my penis.

[Biker 1]

Biker9090 said:

I couldn't care less how a bike looks. I just want it to be reliable (and have a good reputation for reliability) and want to be out riding it - not peacoking infront of others at Cafes playing measure my penis.

Disagree - I want both looks & reliability!
My Kwak z900RS is a thing to behold. I love polishing it & admiring the thick metal flake paint on the tank, particularly in bright sunshine....
At lest I don't do the peacock/cafe thing.

[SteveKTMer]

Bob_Defly said:

I look back at mine and think, do I have the energy to pick it up again.

You must be a KTM rider in disguise

[Freakuk]

robinh73 said:

Having had my gen 3 SDR for just over a year now, I find this whole situation really sad. The SDR has had a few issues which have been resolved superbly by the dealer, but I would honestly say I really would struggle to change it for anything else. I am not a huge fan of the new headlight on the 1390 SDR but you don't see it when you ride it. I was talking to a guy with a gen 1 SDR just before I ordered mine and he had done 42,000 miles on it pretty much trouble free. I think it is a brilliant bike, very well finished and an absolute blast to ride. It does everything from touring to serious blasts. In a nutshell I love it, best road bike I have owned and I would certainly buy another.

Pretty much sums up what I wrote earlier about my Gen3.

[Freakuk]

carinaman said:

In the last couple of weeks they announced they would fix any camshafts that failed, even those camshafts that are found faulty outside of warranty. It dragged on too long.

They needed to act like adults and get hold of the problem when it was first spotted rather than fobbing off customers and digging their heels in.

It could seem they may've been trying to 'brave it out' like they did with the misty TFT dashboard screens.

I really like KTMs, but I can't agree with treating paying customers, they're not selling to the Govt. or another business, like that.

If manufacturers who have a brand, and a brand image don't care about their customers and the safety of their customers why should anyone else?

I cannot be bothered with the faff and demand on my time of a new toy creating problems and having to get to the dealer to get issues corrected. Buying new so as to avoid the potential problems of a used bike doesn't work if the new bike has faults.


Kiska have designed some fantastic looking bikes:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAgRoQoDFRs

Perhaps the TFTs were brought to market too soon, or the price they were paying for them meant they couldn't quickly and cheaply change to 'bonded to glass', whatever newer bikes have, so there's no air gap that allows condensation to form?

The Svartpilen/Vitpilen 701 yogurt pot LCD dashboards have had condensation issues.

I used my motorbike on Tues. to do an errand. Passed a white, as above, Duke 390 checking in the rear view mirror I saw it had an L plate so it was a 125. It looked great. Got to town and the motorcycle bays had two other bikes, last time it was overflowing with food delivery scooters, and one of them was a 23 plate Duke 790. I checked out the 790 to see if the TFT had condensation but it was dirty and covered in circular swirl marks.


The 'Internet rumours' line works given the stalling and cut out issues on Trident 660s took over a year to initiate a recall? The Trident 660 owner who posted online before Oct. 2022 about stretching the internal diameter on a piece of induction system plumbing was on the right track. It's unfortunate that wasn't resolved before they released the Tiger Sport 660.

Worth pointing out Ducati's have had issues with TFT dashes for years with condensation, plus if they are left in direct sunlight they crack and they're about a grand each, plus coding.

What I am saying is every bike has issues.

[Crudeoink]

Bob_Defly said:

I look back at mine and think, do I have the energy to pick it up again.

That's a remarkably familiar look

[KTMsm]

Ducati - the old analogue clocks crack too

Only available as a complete pair of clocks, despite the lenses being a separate part circa £450 IIRC

If I sold defective products as a minimum I'd make the parts available at cost

I sold an old multistrada - the fuel pump seal into the tank failed - pissing fuel over the back tyre, clearly a dangerous failure - turns out there was a recall in the USA but not here - thanks Ducati

[carinaman]

Freakuk said:

Worth pointing out Ducati's have had issues with TFT dashes for years with condensation, plus if they are left in direct sunlight they crack and they're about a grand each, plus coding.

What I am saying is every bike has issues.

Thanks, I wasn't aware of the Ducati TFT issues. I've assumed the 'bonded to glass' or whatever the new ones fitted to bikes recently are called don't have the condensation issues.

Triumph taking a year to issue a Recall for the Trident 660 and Tiger Sport 660 cutting out and stalling problem is a bit poor. If there had been a Technical Service Bulletin or a Recall in place when I agreed to buy a lightly used Trident 660 in Oct. 2022 I would've probably collected it and gone ahead with the deal. It would've shown they were aware of the problem and were dealing with it. Walking away from the deposit, having to get a refund from the DVLA for the year's road tax I'd put on it and cancelling the insurance and losing a year's NCB ten months into the year don't hurt as much as welching on a deal and putting me off of the brand. That they took over a year to issue a Recall confirms to me I made the right choice backing out of the deal. The Recall in late Aug. 2023 states the cutting out issue could cause a crash.

I don't need the aggravation and hassle of a not quite new, months old motorcycle cutting out and stalling and risking an accident. The Trident 660 was aimed at newly qualified riders perhaps ill prepared for a bike cutting out on them without warning.

As a pre-pubescent child I was looking at full double page colour images in books of Bonnevilles and Norton Commandos. In my first job a colleague had a T140 Bonneville. So decades of brand awareness and familiarity has been spoiled for me by them not promptly issuing a Recall for something that related to rider safety.

I guess I need to grow up and acknowledge that the days of being a doe eyed child looking at motorcycles are over. Not everything is as good as depicted in books and magazines.


I was aware of the issues a PHer or two were having with the new 1200 Speed Triples and I promptly forgot them when I saw an advert for a Trident 660 that had features I wanted and one I didn't at a good price not too far away. I was forgetful or I was a mug?

Yeah, I liked that white and red Trident logo on the tank pad. I am that pre-pubescent child but with pubes.

Edited by carinaman on Thursday 28th November 17:14

[Hugo Stiglitz v2]

SteveKTMer said:

You see, that's probably the difference between a KTM rider and a Honda/BMW/Ducati rider.

I look back at my KTM parked at the mountain 3* hotel, sweating slightly, and think, fu*k I didn't think I'd stay on it today, several times I was worried but what a fantastic ride !

A Honda rider looks back at his bike parked in the town hotel garage, smelling of Brute 66, and thinks, fu*k me that was beautifully uneventful, I hope there's some beige food in the restaurant.

A Ducati rider looks back at his bike parked at the SPA and Wellness centre, smelling of Hi Karate, and thinks, I wonder if any nice young ladies saw me riding this beautiful bike today ?

The BMW rider didn't make it as his panniers stopped him filtering and he's still on the A6 near Reims !

What's wrong with my Brut66?

[KurtFlew]

Wonder if they'll pull the plug on the GP project to keep them afloat.

[Biker9090]

Freakuk said:

Worth pointing out Ducati's have had issues with TFT dashes for years with condensation, plus if they are left in direct sunlight they crack and they're about a grand each, plus coding.

What I am saying is every bike has issues.

Has ANYONE managed to make a TFT screen that works reliably or issue free?

I've heard Honda and Suzuki have been quietly replacing them, then you have BMW ones that can be thieved etc

[Krikkit]

KurtFlew said:

Wonder if they'll pull the plug on the GP project to keep them afloat.

They should imho

[scorcher]

I’ve probably done 70’000 miles or so on KTM’s.
2009 SMT, 36k miles 2 x reg/recs and batteries ( well documented due to the position above the exhaust)
2x 950SM flawless
Gen 1 SDR flawless
Gen 2 SDR flawless
2013 SMT. flawless
2010 990 SMR flawless
2016 690 smcr flawless
2022 690 smcr flawless.

Due to them going to Chinese parallel twin and no decent mid range 1000cc bikes I moved away from them as nothing really appealed in the range they had. Currently got a v2 hypermotard as that ticked the most boxes of what I was after.

[carinaman]

The rumoured 490 twin never happened.

Between the 390 and 790 there's the 690. I don't know if a 500-600cc twin would've helped or been a seller in Asian markets.

[KTMsm]

carinaman said:

The rumoured 490 twin never happened.

Except for their partner CF Moto in the 450MT

Most admit whilst I prefer a twin to a single the weight penalty (off road) means I'd rather have a larger engine to justify it

I think CF Moto etc will be a huge problem for KTM in the future