Survey of ownership cost v buying a sorted example .

Survey of ownership cost v buying a sorted example .

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phazed

17,219 posts

142 months

Sunday 10th February
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Far lower. I had to fold myself double to get in under the roof!

TV8

2,638 posts

113 months

Sunday 10th February
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phazed said:
Far lower. I had to fold myself double to get in under the roof!
Just checked on the TVR Car club site. The Cerb is actually few mm higher than the Chim.

That said, looking at the pics, the roof to door frame type panel looks fairly chunky and will take a bit of ducking under! Once in, the headroom should be at least the same as the Chim.

phazed

17,219 posts

142 months

Sunday 10th February
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TV8 said:
phazed said:
Far lower. I had to fold myself double to get in under the roof!
Just checked on the TVR Car club site. The Cerb is actually few mm higher than the Chim.

That said, looking at the pics, the roof to door frame type panel looks fairly chunky and will take a bit of ducking under! Once in, the headroom should be at least the same as the Chim.
Unfortunately not buy a couple of inches. That is a definite. You had to be there!

TV8

2,638 posts

113 months

Sunday 10th February
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phazed said:
Unfortunately not buy a couple of inches. That is a definite. You had to be there!
You need to take up Yoga...

Classic Chim

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8,735 posts

87 months

Sunday 10th February
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Here we are talking the virtues of the magnificent Chimaera and someone mentions Cerbs.
You couldn’t get further apart on the spectrum of heart ache as opposed to joyful miles eaten up which us Chimears drivers can do and get more than 15 to a gallon,, except Peter’s 5.5 that returns about 14.5 biggrin but then he has a camper and trailer,,, swings and roundabouts hehe

It’s becoming blindingly obvious to own a top rated car you need deep pockets to buy one or even deeper pockets if you want to create one.

Either way there’s no getting round the basic cost of a car which must be 20,000 stretching well into the 40,000 depending on level of build and tech added.

The true value is what someone will pay and second hand values are under enormous strain as we face Brexit’s uncertain future. I’ll be glad when it’s all sorted out so we can get back on with Tvr mods and spending money rather than wondering where the next quid will come from.

I should do a leaderboard similar to the fastest 1/4 drag times
Who can boast the most spent in mods or repairs.... biggrin













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Andav469

895 posts

75 months

Sunday 10th February
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Bought my 500 6 years ago for £11,800 with 30,300 on the clock, the car has since had......cough......... £32k spent on it and that is with me doing all the work except the respray and new engine

Classic Chim

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8,735 posts

87 months

Sunday 10th February
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Andav469 said:
Bought my 500 6 years ago for £11,800 with 30,300 on the clock, the car has since had......cough......... £32k spent on it and that is with me doing all the work except the respray and new engine
That’s more like it,,, im feeling better already
Is this incl your latest addition in FI costs ?

any pictures so we can see if it makes a difference hehe

Edited by Classic Chim on Sunday 10th February 20:26

Andav469

895 posts

75 months

Sunday 10th February
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Classic Chim said:
Andav469 said:
Bought my 500 6 years ago for £11,800 with 30,300 on the clock, the car has since had......cough......... £32k spent on it and that is with me doing all the work except the respray and new engine
That’s more like it,,, im feeling better already
Is this incl your latest addition in FI costs ?

Does it show,,,,, any pictures hehe
Well, that’s including the FI costs so far..........let’s just say, I’m eating into the ‘miscellaneous’ budget at a high rate of knots lol

Classic Chim

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8,735 posts

87 months

Sunday 10th February
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Andav469 said:
Well, that’s including the FI costs so far..........let’s just say, I’m earpting into the ‘miscellaneous’ budget at a high rate of knots lol
Watching with great interest.
That’s not to bad then,,, biggrin

ianwayne

2,058 posts

206 months

Sunday 10th February
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TV8 said:
Just checked on the TVR Car club site. The Cerb is actually few mm higher than the Chim.

That said, looking at the pics, the roof to door frame type panel looks fairly chunky and will take a bit of ducking under! Once in, the headroom should be at least the same as the Chim.
Having both, the Cerbera looks lower but it is an illusion brought on by its length. It is actually a few mm higher than the Chimaera. It is actually (officially) the same width across the mirrors but the rear haunches are higher and the body itself is a good 500 mm wider.

The mirrors on a Chimaera stick out substantially whereas the different ones on the Cerbera only just exceed the body width.

I have to duck more to get in the Cerbera (due to the roll bar as mentioned) and the headroom is definitely less despite the marginally higher external dimension. My head brushes the roof in the Cerbera(I'm 6ft 2 in) whereas in the Chimaera, I have to consciously sit bolt upright for my head to touch the roof.

By the way, a 615 mile road trip 2 weeks ago returned 22 mpg in the Cerbera. Not trying hard enough?? smile

The Chimaera with canems averages 20 mpg. frown Easier to drive it harder is my excuse!!

Edited by ianwayne on Sunday 10th February 20:40

sapper

1,017 posts

143 months

Sunday 10th February
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I bought mine 7 years ago for £9000, it was completely standard.
I’ve replaced the outriggers and all the bushes.
Carl Baker replaced the alarm and immobiliser .
Eann Whalley turbo charged it for me and an Emerald ECU was installed Joolz of Kits and Classics.
New carpets were fitted by Dave the Trimmer.
Upgraded headlights Tuscan front indicators and new paintwork by EX Works TVR.
Additional upgrades and work includes
New intercooler and oil cooler. I upgraded the brakes with larger discs and cosworth 888/887 calipers and braided brake lines. New fuel pump, sender and all fuel pipes replaced. The water pump is new as are all the coolant pipes and a high flow aluminium radiator has been fitted.
New power steering pump and hoses. Even the wiper motor is new. All the leven shiny bits for the interior including the rare TVR wooden steering wheel.
Also fitted the ACT cherry bomb exhaust and SP12 alloys.
All in I’ve spent well over £10k.
I was selling it last year but I couldn’t see anything that I’d rather have for less than £30k.
So I’m having a new engine built.






Edited by sapper on Sunday 10th February 20:45

phazed

17,219 posts

142 months

Sunday 10th February
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Thank you Ian wink

In my chim with standard seats, my hair brushes the roof. In the cerb I can't sit up straight at all.

Enough of this! Back on topic.............

TV8

2,638 posts

113 months

Sunday 10th February
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phazed said:
Thank you Ian wink

In my chim with standard seats, my hair brushes the roof. In the cerb I can't sit up straight at all.

Enough of this! Back on topic.............
Its enough to make you wonder if they put different seats and seat runners in the Cerb...ideaideaidealaughlaughlaugh

phazed

17,219 posts

142 months

Sunday 10th February
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Classic Chim

Original Poster:

8,735 posts

87 months

Sunday 10th February
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sapper said:
I bought mine 7 years ago for £9000, it was completely standard.
I’ve replaced the outriggers and all the bushes.
Carl Baker replaced the alarm and immobiliser .
Eann Whalley turbo charged it for me and an Emerald ECU was installed Joolz of Kits and Classics.
New carpets were fitted by Dave the Trimmer.
Upgraded headlights Tuscan front indicators and new paintwork by EX Works TVR.
Additional upgrades and work includes
New intercooler and oil cooler. I upgraded the brakes with larger discs and cosworth 888/887 calipers and braided brake lines. New fuel pump, sender and all fuel pipes replaced. The water pump is new as are all the coolant pipes and a high flow aluminium radiator has been fitted.
New power steering pump and hoses. Even the wiper motor is new. All the leven shiny bits for the interior including the rare TVR wooden steering wheel.
Also fitted the ACT cherry bomb exhaust and SP12 alloys.
All in I’ve spent well over £10k.
I was selling it last year but I couldn’t see anything that I’d rather have for less than £30k.
So I’m having a new engine built.






Edited by sapper on Sunday 10th February 20:45
Here’s another car that probably goes rather well.
A car to enjoy for years and looks well cool in my book.
I like the interior colours lots yes

What could you replace such a sorted car for like for like and retain the style, driver feed back and outright power,,, I don’t think you really can . And the roof comes off let’s not forget which is a bit of a bonus.




Classic Chim

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8,735 posts

87 months

Sunday 10th February
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Dave85chim said:
I think I’m in touble - inpaid £1,600!
For the engine hehe

There’s probably more of us out there that would prefer to do it your way so do tell what you’ve spent so far, a pic might remind people wink

phazed

17,219 posts

142 months

Sunday 10th February
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Andav469 said:
Bought my 500 6 years ago for £11,800 with 30,300 on the clock, the car has since had......cough......... £32k spent on it and that is with me doing all the work except the respray and new engine
I reckon you're winning Dave, top of the leaderboard!

Andav469

895 posts

75 months

Monday 11th February
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phazed said:
Andav469 said:
Bought my 500 6 years ago for £11,800 with 30,300 on the clock, the car has since had......cough......... £32k spent on it and that is with me doing all the work except the respray and new engine
I reckon you're winning Dave, top of the leaderboard!
Lol, nowhere near Linley and Nigel Hilton

phazed

17,219 posts

142 months

Monday 11th February
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Just took mine for a spin as I had to move the car from ramp to garage so thought I should warm it properly.

Nice dry roads and when on an empty dual carriageway gave the throttle a squeeze in fifth at the legal limit. Let's just say acceleration from 70mph is quicker than most cars from 0mph

What high performance car can you get with this sort of performance for about 20k.

I was looking for an LS cerb but in all honesty, performance isn't going to be much more, if any.

Hmm.........

QBee

16,300 posts

82 months

Monday 11th February
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The eternal conundrum.

No, I doubt we could get any better performance without spending 5-10 times as much.
It's hugely entertaining both on the road and the track - most dedicated track cars are a pain on the road, and most soft "sports" cars are pathetic on track.

If I could just make it a bit more wife-friendly, Erin Dawes , to whom I am related by marriage, and i would have so much more fun in it.
Seems a shame it's just so rough at the edges.
On a cold wet day she hates the wind whistling in through various gaps, the lack of decent heating, the lack of a seat heater.
On a hot sunny day she hates getting caught in traffic, with no aircon, no decent fresh air vents and all that heat from the V8 heater.

Yes, she has come with me on a Thrills in the Hills run (got bored stuck in traffic in Bakewell, so we headed home), and on a TVRCC trip to Scotland, and on one track day (forgot her spare underwear), but more out of loyalty than to really enjoy the events. I guess that's just life. As we have got older road cars have got more comfortable, with big comfy armchairs, climate control and heated, electric reclining seats, and they now accommodate the differing needs of driver and passenger. The TVR makes no attempt.

The good thing is she sees the car as my bit of fun (and probably a lot cheaper and less marriage-threatening than the alternative). getmecoat