New Morgan +4

New Morgan +4

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dereksharpuk

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175 posts

136 months

Saturday 14th November 2020
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Can anyone enlighten me on the standard Morgan Plus 4 basic spec. It is not shown on the Morgan website. For example, is air con or heated seats standard?

RedThree

130 posts

106 months

Sunday 15th November 2020
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Pretty sure they're both extras. There's a link to the pricelist on this page; https://www.morgan-motor.com/plus-four/

dereksharpuk

Original Poster:

175 posts

136 months

Sunday 15th November 2020
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RedThree said:
Pretty sure they're both extras. There's a link to the pricelist on this page; https://www.morgan-motor.com/plus-four/
Thanks. Should have gone to Specsavers... Oh no, I can't, am on lockdown smile

Fully loaded, a new Plus 4 is over twice the price of my old Plus 4. Is it twice as good?

Wacky Racer

34,387 posts

215 months

Sunday 15th November 2020
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dereksharpuk said:
RedThree said:
Pretty sure they're both extras. There's a link to the pricelist on this page; https://www.morgan-motor.com/plus-four/
Thanks. Should have gone to Specsavers... Oh no, I can't, am on lockdown smile

Fully loaded, a new Plus 4 is over twice the price of my old Plus 4. Is it twice as good?
Specsavers is still open smile

Here's my "old" Plus 4 when I was picking it up. I think it was £32,000 in 2006.



Mikebentley

2,744 posts

108 months

Sunday 15th November 2020
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I think whilst they appear the same ie traditional Morgan they are new in many ways. I remember years ago they were £35 to £40k. I was also shocked when I saw the price recently for an entry level new car but I think that says more about my lack of keeping up with prices of them.

I live 100 metres from MMC and they have just completed a refurb of the visitors centre and sales area. It is beautiful. I will take a picture and post it later.

dereksharpuk

Original Poster:

175 posts

136 months

Sunday 15th November 2020
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Wacky Racer said:
Specsavers is still open smile

Here's my "old" Plus 4 when I was picking it up. I think it was £32,000 in 2006.


Here is my original, also about £32K in 2007

Stevemtb

24 posts

11 months

Tuesday 17th November 2020
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They have got a bit toppy with the new model, although you'd be looking @£50k minimum for a steel chassis plus 4 before production ceased, so certainly an extra £15k.However it's a different car and really not comparable in terms of fit, finish, performance, handling, ride etc. I recently hired one for 4 days and i was staggered how much better it was, whilst retaining the charm and style of the original.
If they were @£55k with a few bits, air con, wire wheels, etc it would be a much easier decision, but they're so much more fun to drive than before, properly quick and happy just to bimble too!

Claude1000

1 posts

1 month

Sunday 11th July
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Mikebentley said:
I think whilst they appear the same ie traditional Morgan they are new in many ways. .
Of course, Morgans no longer have any claim to being a vintage car. The exterior has been cleverly designed to look the same (but it isn't, being MUCH wider). The first century's legendary owner interaction with the vehicles is no longer realistically possible, and in that it mirrors all current automobile manufacture. We "borrow" a car now in buying one. We must return it for regularly for service and repairs. That vastly increases the cost of ownership. But,on this point, people have lost skills, and the pride in them, as technology becomes a larger part of every life. Don't buy a new Morgan to learn anything.

This culminates the process begun around 2000 by the last family regime. It didn't work as they sold the lot for the same money as their last grant from the government and, at that, it was no more than the value of the land. There is no hallowed ancient expertise left at the Morgan factory. It is an assembly plant putting together parts and modules made elsewhere, by people in uniforms and designated areas intersected by painted lines visitor tours must restrict themself to.

The Plus Four has an excellent spec. It is not THAT much heavier and the added width plants it solidly, at the cost of the former lithe comportment of yesteryear.

The Plus Six is another cup of tea. Far too overpowered and people are getting hurt, some more than seriously. Neither car had to be designed (by change in UK regulations) with occupant safety in mind and the frame has no crumple zones, as traditional Morgans had from the start by luck. The force absorbing wood and ladder frame pleating is gone and any impact is transferred directly to the occupant (s). Do not expect the protection that all other road vehicles have by law. Build quality is as it has been since the grandson of the founder took over..isht. Expect yourself to get rid of the car or sort it the first year or two.

Morgans are like wine. There are good years and bad ones. For example, I enjoyed the Roadster I and the Roadster IIs were sortable. The Roadster 3.7s are lousy with a buffet of issues that force drivers to instinctively drive cautiously, which is exactly what a true sports car is supposed to free one from. I think the Plus Four may one day become a fine vehicle. The company has announced that it will fix Plus Four/Six issues on a annual basis. They state is will be "improvements" every year. That is certainly better than offering basic fixes as costly "performance upgrades" as they have been doing for the last decade +.


TarquinMX5

763 posts

48 months

Sunday 11th July
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Are you one of their 'brand ambassadors' by any chance biggrin