Current Jaguar Range

Current Jaguar Range

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bad company

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13,477 posts

227 months

Wednesday 6th February 2019
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johnxjsc1985 said:
hurry up before they put tariffs on them.
I went along to the 50th Anniversary of the XJ in September. All the models were represented from the very first to the present XJ.
You could see the progression right through the years until 2009/10 when the XJ changed and so did Jaguar.
I loved the XJ’s. I had 2 (not at the same time), both 4.2’s.

Nothing in the range to compare now.

ExitLeft

917 posts

185 months

Thursday 7th February 2019
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The XJ 5.0 V8 Supercharged is for sale here in the US. A proper Jaguar.

bad company

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13,477 posts

227 months

Thursday 7th February 2019
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ExitLeft said:
The XJ 5.0 V8 Supercharged is for sale here in the US. A proper Jaguar.
That’d be worth a look if they sold it over here.

stumpage

1,863 posts

187 months

Thursday 7th February 2019
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bad company said:
cardigankid said:
Hello? XE, XF, XJ = 3Series, 5 Series, 7 Series. Couldn't have shadowed them better.
With the current lineup/options/engines who would pick a jag over the Beemer in any of those classes?

Not me.
Me and I did. The 530i latest model was a dull boring drive, the XF 25t a far far better car in terms of driving feel and to me it feels like a big sports car.

I may come as a suprise but some of us don't follow the herd.

bad company

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13,477 posts

227 months

Thursday 7th February 2019
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stumpage said:
Me and I did. The 530i latest model was a dull boring drive, the XF 25t a far far better car in terms of driving feel and to me it feels like a big sports car.

I may come as a suprise but some of us don't follow the herd.
It’s not following the herd it’s buying what you like. If you’re happy with the 2 litre oil burner that’s great.

My last every day driver was a BMW 335d X drive which was great. It was fast, handled well and not thirsty which was remarkable given the performance. Trouble was when it came to change time I didn’t think diesel was the way to go.

stumpage

1,863 posts

187 months

Thursday 7th February 2019
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bad company said:
If you’re happy with the 2 litre oil burner that’s great.
I take it you're refering to a 2 litre Diesel. If so I've been putting the wrong fuel in for a year!!! eek

BenjiS

957 posts

52 months

Thursday 7th February 2019
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I’m another one who bought a new XF. 3l supercharged petrol in my case.

Mainly because I don’t want to drive yet another 5 series or E-class.

And putting it side by side with my brother’s brand new 540i M-Sport there’s not much between them.

The Leaper

3,841 posts

167 months

Thursday 7th February 2019
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Bad Company,

I had an XF 5.0 V8 Portfolio N/A for getting on for three years. The car was never officially for sale in the UK market. It was for the USA market. Nevertheless, it was possible to order one in the UK and maybe 100-200 were sold here. Maybe Jaguar will do the same for an XFR if asked through a JMD?

My XF was a superb motor, by the way.

R.

bad company

Original Poster:

13,477 posts

227 months

Thursday 7th February 2019
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The Leaper said:
Bad Company,

I had an XF 5.0 V8 Portfolio N/A for getting on for three years. The car was never officially for sale in the UK market. It was for the USA market. Nevertheless, it was possible to order one in the UK and maybe 100-200 were sold here. Maybe Jaguar will do the same for an XFR if asked through a JMD?

My XF was a superb motor, by the way.

R.
Sounds great but I would worry about the residual on something like that.

I’ll be looking to change my 540 later this year. Thinking about a Maserati Ghibli, a bit ‘left field’ but could be fun.

The Leaper

3,841 posts

167 months

Thursday 7th February 2019
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BC,

I paid a reasonable price for my XF and got a good residual price p/e. That model XF still looks to be holding its value.

R

The Leaper

3,841 posts

167 months

Thursday 7th February 2019
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BC,

I paid a reasonable price for my XF and got a good residual price p/e. That model XF still looks to be holding its value.

R

johnxjsc1985

15,948 posts

125 months

Thursday 7th February 2019
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I hope to get an XFR later this year and then on to the F type . I guess once you have Jaguar in your blood its hard to change maybe something the present owners don't understand

fatboy b

8,869 posts

177 months

Thursday 7th February 2019
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cardigankid said:
OP is quite right. Maybe if we say it enough JLR will at some level pay attention.

Who one earth would buy an F Type SVR over a 992 C4S at a comparable price? The 992 is faster, handles better, is better built with more internal space more luggage space and better residuals.

Memo to Jaguar - if you are building a two seater sports car make sure it is light enough, has adequate space including luggage space and then price it against its competitors.

Jaguar were never known for cramped saloons yet this is what JLR have consistently delivered in recent years.

Jaguar were never known for sluggish cars yet this is where most of the range is languishing at present.

Jaguar always produced solidly built cars. Today they rust before your eyes. There is a lack of attention to detail in construction.

You expect your Jag to be stylish fast and effortless. The X300 and X350 models had that as did the X100 and X150 XK’s. You have to believe that it is well built. However it is in the end the exterior and interior styling which isn’t working. It’s not saying ‘Jaguar’ to me, and it’s not giving me the cosseted in leather and burr walnut feeling which I like. Modernism is fine but it’s not guaranteed to work.
Regarding the f-type vs 992 c4s. I personally think Porsche are very overrated. They sponge off their past in terms of styling. The f-type is the one car I’d swap my XFR-S for. Porsche top the German car makers for the most boring looking cars. Well maybe equal to Audi.

Darren1987

1 posts

23 months

Thursday 7th February 2019
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I would not go anywhere near a jag !! They are replacing engines after 60 miles at the moment .
Big problems with the bottom ends !!

fatboy b

8,869 posts

177 months

Thursday 7th February 2019
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Darren1987 said:
I would not go anywhere near a jag !! They are replacing engines after 60 miles at the moment .
Big problems with the bottom ends !!
Great first post rofl

bad company

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13,477 posts

227 months

Thursday 7th February 2019
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Darren1987 said:
I would not go anywhere near a jag !! They are replacing engines after 60 miles at the moment .
Big problems with the bottom ends !!
Perhaps you have some evidence to back that up?

johnxjsc1985

15,948 posts

125 months

Thursday 7th February 2019
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bad company said:
Perhaps you have some evidence to back that up?
I wasn't going to bite for a first post its a beauty.

Mark-C

3,319 posts

166 months

Thursday 7th February 2019
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Darren1987 said:
I would not go anywhere near a jag !! They are replacing engines after 60 miles at the moment .
Big problems with the bottom ends !!
Excellent first post ... balanced, thoughtful, packed full of supporting evidence and plenty of exclamation marks thumbup

bad company

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fatboy b

8,869 posts

177 months

Friday 8th February 2019
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bad company said:
They were slightly in the red last quarter. So they decided to hang all their lay-off costs and restructuring costs on it too. Normal practice. Don’t fret.