RE: Jaguar R-D6

RE: Jaguar R-D6

Wednesday 10th September 2003

Jaguar R-D6

Coupe look for new saloon concept from Jaguar


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swilly

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9,699 posts

244 months

Wednesday 10th September 2003
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Decent enough from the front.....but the rear, please Jaguar/Ford give it back to Renault, they need ot for the Megane

Black S2K

1,077 posts

219 months

Wednesday 10th September 2003
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Yawn,

Derivative, or what?

Maserati Kubang meets RX-8.

Rear end is more Puma, token S-Type face.

When will designers learn that design cues are more than just the headlights & Grille? If there are no links to current cars at all, it is pointless.

johnwilk

97 posts

254 months

Wednesday 10th September 2003
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Yes, I'll buy one. Looks great and sounds great. A truly modern interpretation of Jaguar design values without the horrible pastiche approach adopted by some manufacturers in an attempt to recapture their youth and days of greatness. Well done Ford for being adventurous.

Don

28,376 posts

254 months

Wednesday 10th September 2003
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jimbro1000

1,617 posts

254 months

Wednesday 10th September 2003
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My first impression is a 350Z, Rx-8 and an S-type had an accident and when they tried to piece it altogether again this was the result!

At least it doesn't look like anything else in the Jag range and insomuch is actually different!

AndySA

893 posts

233 months

Wednesday 10th September 2003
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I am sorry jag but I just don't like it. It might be OK as a Saab but not as a Jag.

swilly

Original Poster:

9,699 posts

244 months

Wednesday 10th September 2003
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Jag need to stick to great big luxury barges and rediscover their racing heritage.

I can hardly believe the C,D and E-type came from them based on todays efforts.

dontlift

9,396 posts

228 months

Wednesday 10th September 2003
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Stunning, cheque book at the ready

bobfrance

1,323 posts

237 months

Wednesday 10th September 2003
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I quite like it.

But if they manage to lose the nice litlle design ideas from the concept (which is what ususally happens), It will just look like an S-Type hatchback.

dans

1,137 posts

254 months

Wednesday 10th September 2003
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It is a shame they have let the quiet elegance of the r-coupe go in favour of this. I rather think that the design types have popped out for a copy of Wallpaper* and some prada shoes and then nipped into the office to throw this derivative dogs breakfast of cool cues together, there is everything; alloy nonsense, wood pannelling, red led lighting, silly seats, exhausts designed to make the KA convertible thingy look a bit good, proabaly even a barman robot to be rude to you and charge you 20 quid for a Mojito.

There is an elegant car under all that twaddle, the back is wrong and the grille and silly doors are out of place and unnecessarily costly on a 'cheap' Jag so the bean counters should get them. I hope if they productionise it (fat chance I know) that the fripperies get removed and make way for an elegant coupe. At least they are trying.

PetrolTed

34,329 posts

273 months

Wednesday 10th September 2003
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This has the elegance required of a Jaguar...



florian

192 posts

244 months

Wednesday 10th September 2003
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What an ugly little bastard!

OMG, powered by a diesel...
Bring back Mr. Wolfgang Reitzle, PLEASE!

My suggestions:
  • dump the silly X-Type

  • stop the ridiculous F1-Adventure AND return to Le Mans

  • revoke the gorgeous F-Type


plotloss

67,280 posts

240 months

Wednesday 10th September 2003
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I like it!

Thing to remember with Jaguar is that their core customers are slowly but surely releasing this mortal coil.

They need to create a new core market and their attempts to get a foot into any door should be applauded before they go the same way as so many other great marques...

grahambell

2,705 posts

245 months

Wednesday 10th September 2003
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florian said:
OMG, powered by a diesel...


Yes - but a twin turbo diesel producing 230bhp and 500NM of torque that Jaguar say will get it to 60 in 'less than 6 seconds' and on to a limited top speed of 155mph. So it might burn oil, but it still goes like a Jaguar should.

swilly

Original Poster:

9,699 posts

244 months

Wednesday 10th September 2003
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plotloss said:
I like it!

Thing to remember with Jaguar is that their core customers are slowly but surely releasing this mortal coil.

They need to create a new core market and their attempts to get a foot into any door should be applauded before they go the same way as so many other great marques...


......like BMW and Mercedes perhaps, once Masters of the "You've arrived" type car......

......now just expensive versions of VW.


Yes im sure Jag could also produce a hatchback, estate, pretend 4x4 off-roader, SUV, fat bloated pretend sports car, and every other combo going.....
......but why should they.

Jaguar have a rep for luxury barges and a heritage based around sports cars. There is no need to follow the herd and dilute the brand to the extent Merc and BMW have done.

What next - an entry-level shopping car from mothers and wifeys from Bentley.

Twin Turbo

5,544 posts

236 months

Wednesday 10th September 2003
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Hmmm, what the Hell was wrong R-Coupe? That had all the grace a Jaguar needs, yet still looked modern.

This R-D6 could be from almost any manufacturer (other than the front end, which is rather over-done).

Sorry, don't like it

danmangt40

296 posts

254 months

Wednesday 10th September 2003
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this is certainly an interesting quandary. I was quite taken by the idea of an entry-level jaguar coupe with s-type styling (see 6th picture down in the right column), but this appears to have been a styling proposal of what I just described repackaged to again advertise jaguar's very recent foray into diesels and the fact that jaguar is looking to find out which modern styling direction it should take so that it can eventually let go of the safe but elegant styling shown in the new XJ. This car taken in isolation is nothing more than the best looking hatchback I've ever seen. That may be damning with faint praise though. If it gets produced, I'd love to have one, and I'd be thrilled to say I own a jag too, but somehow I expect passengers, upon seeing my new "jag" to say, "wow, they really don't make them like they used to," regardless of what they actually think about the car. It is not a jaguar in any traditional sense, but maybe that's what jag needs. Gosh I hope not. We need flavors in the automotive world, and jag producing a car such as this is a dilution the world should not have to stomach.

danmangt40

296 posts

254 months

Wednesday 10th September 2003
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I take back the best looking hatch part... I looked at the pics again. the late BMW m-coupe's got it beat by a mile, let alone renault clio v6.

cerbman

565 posts

248 months

Wednesday 10th September 2003
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Oh dear, not what a Jaguar should be.

Skidder

3 posts

228 months

Wednesday 10th September 2003
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Ugly and boring. They should have finished the beautiful F-Type concept instead.
And powered by diesel: horses and torque - yes, but where's the sex and the rpm?