Someone talk some sense into me please.

Someone talk some sense into me please.

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silverback mike

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11,101 posts

220 months

Thursday 8th January 2004
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I need someone to bang me head with something heavy and solid.

I am thinking of getting rid of the XJ8 sport for an earlier XJR.

The XJ8 is faultless. But it needs more uumph.

If this is a bad idea please let me know, as I am more than happy to keep it, heaven knows I have whittered on about an XJR for long enough.

What sort of XJR Would I get for the XJ8, and what is it worth?

I know I am getting a bit boring now, and sorry for that, but I do not want to go down the M3 route, which is always a nag in the back of my mind.

FourWheelDrift

82,479 posts

251 months

Thursday 8th January 2004
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silverback mike said:
I need someone to bang me head with something heavy and solid.


Hang on I know someone with a V12 block that might do the job



silverback mike said:

I am thinking of getting rid of the XJ8 sport for an earlier XJR.

What sort of XJR Would I get for the XJ8, and what is it worth?

I know I am getting a bit boring now, and sorry for that, but I do not want to go down the M3 route, which is always a nag in the back of my mind.



Changing a V8 for a 6 cylinder?

Take a deep breath and repeat these words.

"I love my car I think it's great,
All I need is my V8"


But if you find a XJR V8, well that's a different matter

>> Edited by FourWheelDrift on Friday 9th January 18:00

silverback mike

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11,101 posts

220 months

Thursday 8th January 2004
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Had to pick myself up off the floor after reading that I Love my V8 bit.

V12Bob

646 posts

215 months

Friday 9th January 2004
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Call me old fashioned, I have difficulty imagining a real Jaguar with a configuration indevisible by three

You chaps either have two too many, or your four pots short

silverback mike

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11,101 posts

220 months

Friday 9th January 2004
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I'll stick another one on top, make it a V9.

PlenumPete

96 posts

231 months

Friday 9th January 2004
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silverback mike said:
What sort of XJR Would I get for the XJ8, and what is it worth?


Straight 6 versus V8, don't want to open that old chestnut up again. Only answer, get one of each!

Mike I guess the decision you're faced with is: Do I chop in the XJ8 for a good, late, medium mileage XJR-6 or add some serious cash and go for an early, high mileage XJR-V8? It's a difficult one that. I'd start by test driving an example of each variant, weigh up factors like depreciation, servicing and parts costs, service history ... and then choose the XJR-6!

It's noticeable that good early X300s, and XJRs in particular, are moving through the dealers like hot cakes. At the asking prices of 8-9000 for M, N, or P regs and XJR-V8s starting at 15,000 that's no surpise, they do represent a lot of motor for the money.

silverback mike

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11,101 posts

220 months

Friday 9th January 2004
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You're absolutely right Pete, It would be chopped in for as you say, medium mileage XJR-6. I don't particularly want to spend much more.

But then again, if it goes wrong then it drops me in the mire completely. Seeing as I still have a decent warranty with mine then I would be a bit daft.

Test drive time I think, this will settle my curiosity!

schueymcfee

1,567 posts

232 months

Friday 9th January 2004
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PlenumPete said:

silverback mike said:
What sort of XJR Would I get for the XJ8, and what is it worth?



Straight 6 versus V8, don't want to open that old chestnut up again. Only answer, get one of each!

Mike I guess the decision you're faced with is: Do I chop in the XJ8 for a good, late, medium mileage XJR-6 or add some serious cash and go for an early, high mileage XJR-V8? It's a difficult one that. I'd start by test driving an example of each variant, weigh up factors like depreciation, servicing and parts costs, service history ... and then choose the XJR-6!

It's noticeable that good early X300s, and XJRs in particular, are moving through the dealers like hot cakes. At the asking prices of 8-9000 for M, N, or P regs and XJR-V8s starting at 15,000 that's no surpise, they do represent a lot of motor for the money.


Mmmm, I've only been offered 7,500 for mine in part/ex and that's a 97 XJR v8. I'd have thought mine was only worth about 10,000 in a private sale - unless of course they're starting to go up in value?

People have told me the 6 seems faster than the v8 (XJR), but I prefer the little extras like better interior, wheels, 5 speed auto, active suspension, side airbags and stuff - all IMHO of course.

I can see a good XJR-6 being around 8-9,000 as they're regarded as collectors cars more so than the v8 - I think

GavinPearson

5,712 posts

218 months

Saturday 10th January 2004
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If you were going from a 4.0 V8 X308 to a 4.0 X300 S/C Manual I might see your point.

In general though the V8 is a far better car all round to drive, quieter, better brakes, more refinement, nicer dash, just better in every respect. New front suspension makes a massive difference.

I'd get a 4.0 V8 S/C X308 as the next upgrade rather than go for the 95 to 98 MY car.

If you don't want to go for that just consider a spring / damper / anti roll bar upgrade (then suspension will be as the XJR except for the rear A frame bushes) and put 18" wheels and tyres on it.



silverback mike

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11,101 posts

220 months

Saturday 10th January 2004
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Thank you Gavin.
Isn't my suspension similar to the XJR anyway? (Sport variety of x308)
The suspension is marvellous on mine, and it corners very well.
I note your comments about the improved bits and bobs though.
Appreciate your views, thanks.
Mike.



>> Edited by silverback mike on Saturday 10th January 18:25

>> Edited by silverback mike on Saturday 10th January 19:25

GavinPearson

5,712 posts

218 months

Sunday 11th January 2004
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silverback mike said:
Thank you Gavin.
Isn't my suspension similar to the XJR anyway? (Sport variety of x308)
The suspension is marvellous on mine, and it corners very well.
I note your comments about the improved bits and bobs though.
Appreciate your views, thanks.
Mike.
>> Edited by silverback mike on Saturday 10th January 19:25


Yes it is similar but the spring rates are different, anti-roll bar diameters different and damper tuning is different.

A frame Bushes look the same - but are different. The W shaped bracket (Monostrut) may well have different rates on the XJR.

Aside from that everything suspension wise is identical, as is the differential, halfshafts, as should brake hardware (but I am not sure about pads).

JonRB

66,502 posts

239 months

Sunday 11th January 2004
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Is there any remapping, tweaking or fettling that can be done to your car to improve performance on your existing car?

Perhaps Arden can help?

FourWheelDrift

82,479 posts

251 months

Wednesday 14th January 2004
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Looks like you've made up your mind Mike if the PH frontpage and the classifieds are anything to go by.

What is the decision?

Hughesie2

12,546 posts

249 months

Wednesday 14th January 2004
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How about an XK8 ??

Sheepy

3,164 posts

216 months

Wednesday 14th January 2004
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V12Bob said:
Call me old fashioned, I have difficulty imagining a real Jaguar with a configuration indevisible by three

You chaps either have two too many, or your four pots short




It's only a real Jag if it's got six or twelve.

silverback mike

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11,101 posts

220 months

Wednesday 14th January 2004
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FourWheelDrift said:
Looks like you've made up your mind Mike if the PH frontpage and the classifieds are anything to go by.

What is the decision?


Not sure yet fourwheel.
The Jag is great, but doesn't have enough poke for me really.
If it doesnt go then I won't be too worried, but I may move it on in the fullness of time.
I do fancy a supercharger though.

cerby_mike

129 posts

213 months

Saturday 17th January 2004
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Have you sold it, or did you change your mind? Notice it's no longer in the classifieds.

Mike

silverback mike

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11,101 posts

220 months

Saturday 17th January 2004
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Sold it Mike.
Put it on ebay and it sold within a day for 7000.
Can't complain really.
I'm going for a BMW 325 tds and saving for a TVR for a mood lifting vehicle!

cerbman

565 posts

245 months

Monday 23rd February 2004
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V12Bob said:
Call me old fashioned, I have difficulty imagining a real Jaguar with a configuration indevisible by three

You chaps either have two too many, or your four pots short
Not old fashioned enough I'd say, you clearly don't remember the SS Jaguar 1 1/2

V12Bob

646 posts

215 months

Monday 23rd February 2004
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cerbman said:

V12Bob said:
Call me old fashioned, I have difficulty imagining a real Jaguar with a configuration indevisible by three

You chaps either have two too many, or your four pots short

Not old fashioned enough I'd say, you clearly don't remember the SS Jaguar 1 1/2


Not quite old enough to remmember maybee, but The Jaguar name first appeared in 1935 on the SS100 which had an inline 6. The you mention 11/2 was an SS before the Jaguar name was adopted, so my statement still stands, unless of course you know better