VW TDI Emissions Software 'Fix'

VW TDI Emissions Software 'Fix'

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Halmyre

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7,861 posts

89 months

Friday 22nd April 2016
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I'm so excited, I've just had a message from my dealer asking to call him about fixing my foul and filthy planetkiller 2.0 TDi Passat, after which it will no doubt emit sweet vapours and fragrances.

So, has anyone actually had this done and what sort of performance hit can I expect, or will I probably not notice it in a six-year-old average-mileage commuter special.

icepop

1,144 posts

157 months

Tuesday 26th April 2016
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Just had my second letter from SEAT, telling me that my car is due a fix sometime in Q3/4. Consists of mesh being fitted in front of the airflow meter to moderate airflow, think that's it. The 2lt engines get a ECU flash only, mines the 1.6tdi so don't know if the ecu is touched. I'll be over 100k at that point, was hoping for replacement injectors as part of the fix, but no luck frown...smile

chasingracecars

1,601 posts

47 months

Tuesday 26th April 2016
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It will be re-mapped, slower, less efficient, but blow flowers out the exhaust!

Sheepshanks

19,355 posts

69 months

Tuesday 26th April 2016
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Have a couple of VWs, although neither directly affected, but I haven't heard of anyone else being called in yet.

I wonder if the dealer's solution is to sell you another car? smile

MX51ROD

1,413 posts

97 months

Wednesday 27th April 2016
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chasingracecars said:
It will be re-mapped, slower, less efficient, but blow flowers out the exhaust!
Not what my dealer tells me ,

Performance unaffected .
Fuel consumption unaffected.
So if that is the case , why were the new settings not incorporated at the manufacturing stage ?
My Tiguan, has as yet not been done , and according to my dealer the “updates” are not ready

At least VAG are no longer the villains , it seems ALL manufactures are at it , Mitsubishi admitted just today that they have been fiddling results for some 25 years

NBirkitt

252 posts

141 months

Saturday 30th April 2016
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VW Press release on Friday stated:

The Volkswagen passenger car brand is starting the technical modification of vehicles affected with engine type EA 189.

The first model that customers will be soon able to make a service appointment for is the Golf TDI BlueMotion Technology (BMT) with a 2.0 litre engine.

In Europe around 15,000 affected Golf cars with a manual gearbox are being called to the workshops.

Further Volkswagen passenger car brand models will follow shortly in the recall process.

ST150HB

444 posts

99 months

Sunday 1st May 2016
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My A4 was called in a week or two ago, no difference to how it was before (slow) and I can go to sleep knowing my car isn't a polar bear murderer anymore!

tigger1

8,294 posts

171 months

Wednesday 8th June 2016
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I've had my letter asking me to book a slot to get my A5 "sorted". Can't say I'm going to be rushing to make a special trip to get it done.

ETA: it passed it's MOT last year with no emissions issues, so not overly bothered about getting it done.

jingars

777 posts

190 months

Wednesday 8th June 2016
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tigger1 said:
I've had my letter asking me to book a slot to get my A5 "sorted". Can't say I'm going to be rushing to make a special trip to get it done.

ETA: it passed it's MOT last year with no emissions issues, so not overly bothered about getting it done.

myvision

1,367 posts

86 months

Thursday 9th June 2016
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Took my 2012 A4 in for its MOT last month at Hull Audi and on collecting it they told me they had done the 'fix' I couldn't feel any difference to before.

Audi A4

2 posts

39 months

Thursday 3rd November 2016
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Hi all
unfortunatly we had the recall done on our Passat 2011 2.0tdi in july and have spent the last 3½ Months trying to get the old software put back...

the problems since recall include an annoying rattle / clatter from the engine 1000-1500rpms. slight power loss again 1000-1500rpms, the DPF is regenerating every 150 miles, and economy is slightly worse overall. we have close family friends who drive VW and have suffered engine failure due to the new software, one got stranded in Spain and the other was driving the M1 home on a friday when he lost all power. both have had to pay in excess of £1800 to get the engine put right.

we have also had the invite from Audi for the A4 but there is NO WAY it is getting the recall done. the A4 was in for service last week and i made sure the dealers understood NOT to do the recall. they seemed OK about it but before i took the car in i made laminated notices "DO NOT DO EMISSIONS RECALL" and taped one ober the obd port one over the steering wheel and the other i hadned in with the key.

taken the passat to 2 different dealers and both have done the same routine...read error codes (none found) and re-run the emissions software and neither dealer made any difference. emails have been sent to VW customer service and waited 6 weeks for a reply, only to be asked for information that was in the original email (if they read it) just to waste time!!!. they have said at the dealers thet the old software cannot be put back.

looks like only one option... a re-map. not looking for more power just returned to what it was. i have read about Quantum remaps, annd reviews seem good. anyone had any experience of them? would value any opinions.

Rich_W

11,197 posts

162 months

Saturday 5th November 2016
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Audi A4 said:
Hi all
unfortunatly we had the recall done on our Passat 2011 2.0tdi in july and have spent the last 3½ Months trying to get the old software put back...

the problems since recall include an annoying rattle / clatter from the engine 1000-1500rpms. slight power loss again 1000-1500rpms, the DPF is regenerating every 150 miles, and economy is slightly worse overall. we have close family friends who drive VW and have suffered engine failure due to the new software, one got stranded in Spain and the other was driving the M1 home on a friday when he lost all power. both have had to pay in excess of £1800 to get the engine put right.

we have also had the invite from Audi for the A4 but there is NO WAY it is getting the recall done. the A4 was in for service last week and i made sure the dealers understood NOT to do the recall. they seemed OK about it but before i took the car in i made laminated notices "DO NOT DO EMISSIONS RECALL" and taped one ober the obd port one over the steering wheel and the other i hadned in with the key.

taken the passat to 2 different dealers and both have done the same routine...read error codes (none found) and re-run the emissions software and neither dealer made any difference. emails have been sent to VW customer service and waited 6 weeks for a reply, only to be asked for information that was in the original email (if they read it) just to waste time!!!. they have said at the dealers thet the old software cannot be put back.

looks like only one option... a re-map. not looking for more power just returned to what it was. i have read about Quantum remaps, annd reviews seem good. anyone had any experience of them? would value any opinions.
The software comes online from Germany. They cannot put it back to how it was.

And btw. NO customer has had engine failure as a result of the software update. Yes, you will get worse fuel economy. And less performance. But it wont cause rattles at low rpm and it wont kill it.

MX51ROD

1,413 posts

97 months

Sunday 6th November 2016
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Rich_W said:
Audi A4 said:
Hi all
unfortunatly we had the recall done on our Passat 2011 2.0tdi in july and have spent the last 3½ Months trying to get the old software put back...

the problems since recall include an annoying rattle / clatter from the engine 1000-1500rpms. slight power loss again 1000-1500rpms, the DPF is regenerating every 150 miles, and economy is slightly worse overall. we have close family friends who drive VW and have suffered engine failure due to the new software, one got stranded in Spain and the other was driving the M1 home on a friday when he lost all power. both have had to pay in excess of £1800 to get the engine put right.

we have also had the invite from Audi for the A4 but there is NO WAY it is getting the recall done. the A4 was in for service last week and i made sure the dealers understood NOT to do the recall. they seemed OK about it but before i took the car in i made laminated notices "DO NOT DO EMISSIONS RECALL" and taped one ober the obd port one over the steering wheel and the other i hadned in with the key.

taken the passat to 2 different dealers and both have done the same routine...read error codes (none found) and re-run the emissions software and neither dealer made any difference. emails have been sent to VW customer service and waited 6 weeks for a reply, only to be asked for information that was in the original email (if they read it) just to waste time!!!. they have said at the dealers thet the old software cannot be put back.

looks like only one option... a re-map. not looking for more power just returned to what it was. i have read about Quantum remaps, annd reviews seem good. anyone had any experience of them? would value any opinions.
And btw. NO customer has had engine failure as a result of the software update. Yes, you will get worse fuel economy. And less performance. But it wont cause rattles at low rpm and it wont kill it.
That’s an interesting and un equivocal statement considering the poster mentioned 2 cases that could be attributed to the fix, as well as problems with his own car , your source for the dismissal of problems due to the fix ? .
I remember a while ago problems attributed to faulty injectors were dismissed by VAG , only for VAG cars with 2ltr engines be subject to a VOSA recall .So if your source is VAG , where is the salt pot ?
A simple change to idle speed could excite the DM flywheel to rattle , and if it rattles then early failure could follow .
So the “simple fix “ is not so simple



Sheepshanks

19,355 posts

69 months

Sunday 6th November 2016
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Rich_W said:
But it wont cause rattles at low rpm...
A lot of Tiguan owners are reporting rattles at low RPM. I think they're on the 3rd version of the update now.

MX51ROD

1,413 posts

97 months

Sunday 6th November 2016
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Sheepshanks said:
Rich_W said:
But it wont cause rattles at low rpm...
A lot of Tiguan owners are reporting rattles at low RPM. I think they're on the 3rd version of the update now.
That why I am still waiting for my car to be called in,

Halmyre

Original Poster:

7,861 posts

89 months

Monday 7th November 2016
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MX51ROD said:
Sheepshanks said:
Rich_W said:
But it wont cause rattles at low rpm...
A lot of Tiguan owners are reporting rattles at low RPM. I think they're on the 3rd version of the update now.
That why I am still waiting for my car to be called in,
I still get the odd letter reassuring me that my car will be called in at some point. At which point I might just decide not to bother, unless the 'upgrade' comes with a crate of Islay malt and a night of carnal pleasure with any three weathergirls of my choosing.

jonlk

203 posts

120 months

Friday 30th December 2016
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Afternoon,

Just had the letter from VW (and interestingly allegedly with the involvement of the the DVLA) to have the EA 189 emissions fix on the Wife's 10 plate 2.0l TDI 4motion.

Spoke to VW and it's not legally required so am unsure what to do really, any recent experience of the fix / thoughts?

Terryrussell1952

6 posts

87 months

Saturday 31st December 2016
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Having read all of the problems with the Tiguan software I'll definitely not be having our 177 Passat done. It simply isn't worth the risk.

jonlk

203 posts

120 months

Saturday 31st December 2016
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I'm leaning that way

MX51ROD

1,413 posts

97 months

Saturday 31st December 2016
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jonlk said:
I'm leaning that way
+1
Mine is due,directly after Christmas break , as I tow a caravan ,I don't want any change in performance,or other problems