VAG 1.5TSI DSG issues
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ClareHG said:
Yes! I have the same engine in a Tiguan allspace.
Damp roads, slight incline, fast moving roundabouts all cause the car to wheelspin. Sometimes we get burning rubber smell, sometimes the ABS kicks in which slows the car even more and makes for an awful experience when traffic is coming at you!
Car has been into my local VW garage twice but of course they find nothing.
It's coming up for a year old and I can't wait to get rid of it. I chose this as Ford have stopped making the S-Max which was an awesome 7 seater and have been generally unimpressed.
Ours (it's really my wife's) is the Karoq and I don't drive it much much but have generally learned how to avoid it - mostly by being very gentle on the gas and getting it moving before feeding in more power if needed. I did drive it four up on a 30 mile round trip on back roads yesterday and it did spin the fronts once, when I had to turn sharp left onto a very steep hill. The road surface was quite broken up too.which won't have helped.Damp roads, slight incline, fast moving roundabouts all cause the car to wheelspin. Sometimes we get burning rubber smell, sometimes the ABS kicks in which slows the car even more and makes for an awful experience when traffic is coming at you!
Car has been into my local VW garage twice but of course they find nothing.
It's coming up for a year old and I can't wait to get rid of it. I chose this as Ford have stopped making the S-Max which was an awesome 7 seater and have been generally unimpressed.
I do think it's doing it less since we went back to standard petrol - had been using Costco's Super - and dropping the tyre pressure to the minimum stated (I'd been running a bit higher as 30psi for the 18" tyres seemed too low and I thought higher pressures migh protect the wheels better from potholes.
Other owners have reported that changing to All Season tyres, such as Michelin CrossClimate or Goodyear Vector 4Seasons cures the issue completely.
Op did you get to the bottom of this?
Our Touran 1.5dsg would randomly make a slip noise when pulling away.
On a recent trip to Wales (4 grown adults) it was doing it alot.
Now back home, even with just me in the car, it's doing it quite frequently.
I will try turning the auto hold off, I just hope it's not a fault that's going to be expensive.
2019 plate on 38k
Our Touran 1.5dsg would randomly make a slip noise when pulling away.
On a recent trip to Wales (4 grown adults) it was doing it alot.
Now back home, even with just me in the car, it's doing it quite frequently.
I will try turning the auto hold off, I just hope it's not a fault that's going to be expensive.
2019 plate on 38k
No sorry. I learned to work around it tbh. Now the car has been traded in for a seat tarraco which i have also now have problems with! I think these gearboxes are just garbage on these 1.5tsi engines. The touran was out of warranty but this tarraco has fresh 2 years so will try and get bottom of it with the dealers
Hmm. Worrying thread is worrying. I'm about to test drive a Skoda Superb 1.5 TSI DSG. It's a 2022 (72) plate with under 8k miles on the clock.
Does anyone have any experience with this set up in a Superb?
Any advice regarding what I should look out for on a test drive, or any routines I should try?
Does anyone have any experience with this set up in a Superb?
Any advice regarding what I should look out for on a test drive, or any routines I should try?
I've got it in a Cupra Formentor. Once on the move it's not too bad but setting off it generally does one of two things; takes an age to feed power to the wheels, typically when someone has just flashed to let you out of a junction kind of scenario- you just sit there looking apologetically at them through the side window whilst the gearbox decides what to do. Or, when you're trying to set off gently and it decides to torque-dump on you when all you wanted was something barely beyond tickover. It's almost as if they're trying to make the engine feel more potent than it really is.
And that's not to mention when it's being a really nervous passenger. Habits include a big shouty beepy warning of impending doom because the car miles in front has stopped/turning and it thinks you haven't seen it yet (may or may not include automatic involuntary braking). Or you're just smoothly reversing in a straight line into a parking space and it decides to jam on the brakes for no apparent reason. Or you're driving along on some broken road surface (i.e. most of them these days) and it begins warning you you're not keeping in lane and tries to steer you into the nearest road furniture.
Apart from that, great.
And that's not to mention when it's being a really nervous passenger. Habits include a big shouty beepy warning of impending doom because the car miles in front has stopped/turning and it thinks you haven't seen it yet (may or may not include automatic involuntary braking). Or you're just smoothly reversing in a straight line into a parking space and it decides to jam on the brakes for no apparent reason. Or you're driving along on some broken road surface (i.e. most of them these days) and it begins warning you you're not keeping in lane and tries to steer you into the nearest road furniture.
Apart from that, great.
CivicDuties said:
Hmm. Worrying thread is worrying. I'm about to test drive a Skoda Superb 1.5 TSI DSG. It's a 2022 (72) plate with under 8k miles on the clock.
Does anyone have any experience with this set up in a Superb?
Any advice regarding what I should look out for on a test drive, or any routines I should try?
Wife has a 22 Karoq 1.5TSI DSG with 8K on it - I drive it quite a bit. It just works fine, to be honest. Had a diesel DSG before (also fine) and for years I drove Merc's with their well regarded, in its time, 5 speed torque converter auto.Does anyone have any experience with this set up in a Superb?
Any advice regarding what I should look out for on a test drive, or any routines I should try?
We don't have autohold on, or use the auto handrake - just drive it the way people drobe autos for years.
For testing, I'd be minded to mostly drive it as gently as you can. As previous poster said, on the move it's all but seamless, you can barely even feel gear changes. Rolling through junctions can sometimes catch DSGs out - you may know this, but they predict and preload the next gear, if a different one is needed it can take a whole second to sort itself out, which feels like an age if traffic is bearing down on. It's just a matter of having faith - if you bang the gas pedal down then it will take off like a scalded cat.
I think wife's has a very slight intermittant judder from rest when it's cold, but there's no chance of the dealer detecting it - took three visits to "fix" (apply grease) a known issue with the front shocker pistons creaking manically in the bump stops. I'll buy the All In package so it'll be warranted for best part of 8 yrs if we keep it that long.
It was explained to me recently by an Audi dealer that the VAG dual clutch automatic gearbox will pre-engage reverse gear and 2nd gear when the car is stationary.
The reason for not selecting 1st gear is that it sits on the same layshaft as reverse.
When you pull away it will initially begin to move in second and then change down to first gear if needed.
I can see why that if trying a hard start from stationary the car would initially feel sluggish and then suddenly lurch forward when it changes down. The answer to this drive smoother and then accelerate harder once the car is moving.
The reason for not selecting 1st gear is that it sits on the same layshaft as reverse.
When you pull away it will initially begin to move in second and then change down to first gear if needed.
I can see why that if trying a hard start from stationary the car would initially feel sluggish and then suddenly lurch forward when it changes down. The answer to this drive smoother and then accelerate harder once the car is moving.
I’ve seen people say they start in 2nd and with some saying that it’s 2nd even though the indicator says D1. However the ones we’ve owned start in 1st, and very quickly change to 2nd - you can feel the change and see the revs drop.
My old Merc started in 2nd in Comfort mode and that shifted to 1st with a jolt if you booted it.
My old Merc started in 2nd in Comfort mode and that shifted to 1st with a jolt if you booted it.
Interesting input, thanks gents.
I wonder if an approach one could take when in town and in traffic is to use manual mode, to ensure it's always in first to start with? Or does the car still try to start in second whatever you do?
It doesn't sound like a massive issue to me, but I worry about the other driver who will use the car occasionally and her lack of mechanical sympathy...she likes our Nissan Leaf with its simple plant foot and go very fast at all times operation. She might get alarmed at anything which requires a modicum of thought, or empathy for the mechanicals.
For reference, we once had a Smart Roadster with the famously unpopular gearbox, but we both really liked it - I found it easy to adapt driving style and right foot application to the gearbox's quirks, and Management didn't give it another thought, so long as it changed gears for her.
I wonder if an approach one could take when in town and in traffic is to use manual mode, to ensure it's always in first to start with? Or does the car still try to start in second whatever you do?
It doesn't sound like a massive issue to me, but I worry about the other driver who will use the car occasionally and her lack of mechanical sympathy...she likes our Nissan Leaf with its simple plant foot and go very fast at all times operation. She might get alarmed at anything which requires a modicum of thought, or empathy for the mechanicals.
For reference, we once had a Smart Roadster with the famously unpopular gearbox, but we both really liked it - I found it easy to adapt driving style and right foot application to the gearbox's quirks, and Management didn't give it another thought, so long as it changed gears for her.
Not the same, but similar. Skoda Yeti 2.0 150bhp CR diesel. Has the 6 speed wet clutch DQ250. My first DSG. I like it. Quite a bit. If you’re a driver, you’ll notice it’s quirks, and that it’s possible to lead the box with your driving technique.It never pulls away in 2nd. Ever. In normal D, it will pull away in first, and sometimes short shift to 2nd, a bit too early for my liking occasionally. All depends on temp of engine/box,throttle position and even the slope of the road. I usually put it in S mode when cold, and also if crawling in traffic. Again, when crawling, it sometimes shifts a bit too early into 2nd and feels like it allows a little clutch slip. S avoids that. Almost never use manual mode, it’s just not needed for me.
I hear the 7 speed dry clutch DQ200 is a bit of a liability and judderfest…
I hear the 7 speed dry clutch DQ200 is a bit of a liability and judderfest…
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