Looking for a Griffith

Looking for a Griffith

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macdeb

8,606 posts

264 months

Monday 2nd December 2024
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That does indeed look very nice. Also, at last, one that was specced right with the interior as the dash matches the door surrounds which flows through the car much better. lick So many got that wrong matching dash to door cards.

BritishTvr450

463 posts

8 months

Monday 2nd December 2024
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Has it had its riggers replaced or still original? That’s the first question I’d ask as there are no pictures of the underside in the add. Seems very good value if they are known to be solid.

baconsarney

12,072 posts

170 months

Monday 2nd December 2024
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macdeb said:
That does indeed look very nice. Also, at last, one that was specced right with the interior as the dash matches the door surrounds which flows through the car much better. lick So many got that wrong matching dash to door cards.
Mac... You're alive biggrin

Stick Legs

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6,375 posts

174 months

Monday 2nd December 2024
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BritishTvr450 said:
Has it had its riggers replaced or still original? That’s the first question I’d ask as there are no pictures of the underside in the add. Seems very good value if they are known to be solid.
First question I have too.

The seller is doing me a video of the underside.

macdeb

8,606 posts

264 months

Monday 2nd December 2024
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baconsarney said:
macdeb said:
That does indeed look very nice. Also, at last, one that was specced right with the interior as the dash matches the door surrounds which flows through the car much better. lick So many got that wrong matching dash to door cards.
Mac... You're alive biggrin
hehe yup, still lurking. Hope you're ok bloke. x

BritishTvr450

463 posts

8 months

Monday 2nd December 2024
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Stick Legs said:
First question I have too.

The seller is doing me a video of the underside.
As an old sea fairing man who turned his hand to classic car restoration once said the me, “a boats not much use of its Hull is breached” biggrin
Out rigger replacement alone isn’t the end of the world and can be done with a partial body lift but usually far more effective if the body is fully removed, and then you can easily get drawn into doing a tonne more work just because your there.
Unfortunately pictures of the tubes from underside can hide the real damage which is on top of the tubes usually in each corner which the body covers almost entirely.
If the car has plenty of other positive attributes then that’s fine but a full chassis restoration by known Tvr specialists can cost anything from 6-10k so be aware.

Just look up out rigger replacement threads to find pictures of what you might find.
Car generally looks very handsome and well maintained but pictures can be deceiving.
Good luck though smile

S6 ROR

1,588 posts

274 months

Monday 2nd December 2024
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Would definately want to further investigate the outriggers, after the comment in the MOT history


Loubaruch

1,285 posts

207 months

Monday 2nd December 2024
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As British TVR has said you cannot judge the state of the outriggers from underneath. I have just completed a body lift restoration of my 1996 car and from underneath the outriggers were completely rust free but on lifting the body I still found two holes requiring new metal. It the outriggers have not been replaced since those MOT advisories above then be aware they will definitely need replacement or substantial repairs.

Stick Legs

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6,375 posts

174 months

Monday 2nd December 2024
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Thanks for the info & sleuthing.

I genuinely appreciate it.

As I am away at sea until the 12th my plan is (pending satisfactory pictures from underneath) putting a holding deposit that's agreed to be refundable if it doesn't match up to the description when I actually go & see it in person.

There are other TVR Griffiths about and so I'll be checking the history for evidence of replacement since that MOT advisory.

Lets see what transpires.

beer

S6 ROR

1,588 posts

274 months

Tuesday 3rd December 2024
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Good luck. It looks a stunning car other than that. Gorgeous colour as wellyes


Edited by S6 ROR on Tuesday 3rd December 07:27

Stick Legs

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6,375 posts

174 months

Tuesday 3rd December 2024
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So I have had the video & pictures of the underside.





In various places there was power coat lifting.

It’s not horrendous but it’s obviously going to need attention at some stage.

I get that if it had a body lift & full chassis overhaul then it would be nearer £30k than £20k.

But I’ve left an offer of £22k on the table.

And that’s only because it’s a sexy colour.

Lets see what happens.

Stick Legs

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6,375 posts

174 months

Tuesday 3rd December 2024
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In other news I like this one.

https://www.carandclassic.com/l/C1810589





There’s something quite lovely about the early Griffith.

I always liked the upside down instruments.

Belle427

9,940 posts

242 months

Tuesday 3rd December 2024
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The 4.3 is seen by most as the sweetest engine of the lot.
Not a fan of those wheels but looks good.

Stick Legs

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6,375 posts

174 months

Tuesday 3rd December 2024
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Belle427 said:
The 4.3 is seen by most as the sweetest engine of the lot.
Not a fan of those wheels but looks good.
I’d be looking to swap a set of Estorils on to it, or maybe even the 5 spokes that the very early cars came on, but that’s not a deal breaker.



Actually I really like these.

Edited by Stick Legs on Tuesday 3rd December 20:21

mk1fan

10,673 posts

234 months

Tuesday 3rd December 2024
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Lanogard or similar would keep that chassis in abeyance for a good while. Every TVR is moving toward a chassis refurb. One of the fundamental truths of ownership. New owners need to come to terms with that.

Stick Legs

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Tuesday 3rd December 2024
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mk1fan said:
Lanogard or similar would keep that chassis in abeyance for a good while. Every TVR is moving toward a chassis refurb. One of the fundamental truths of ownership. New owners need to come to terms with that.
Absolutely.
But it’s still a fine negotiating tactic.
Plus the blue one has had it done so the next one is further down the road.

Big fan of Lanoguard for my Range Rover.

sixor8

6,717 posts

277 months

Tuesday 3rd December 2024
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The 3rd page of the thread about Lanoguard in the Classics area has a few users unimpressed. frown

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

Stick Legs

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6,375 posts

174 months

Tuesday 3rd December 2024
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sixor8 said:
The 3rd page of the thread about Lanoguard in the Classics area has a few users unimpressed. frown

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
As a long term solution to maintaining a perfect chassis, then no, it's probably rubbish.

As a non permanent way of putting your finger in the dyke, or preventing a bit of flaky underbody from becoming significantly worse in the near future it's not bad.

If I was going to have a chassis rebuilt and repainted it would be Dinitrol all the way.

However over the last 4 years I have used it on my Range Rover at the end of the summer to just help protect the underbody from winter salt and muck and a litre and half of the stuff sprayed liberally and semi-discriminately hasn't done any harm.



Belle427

9,940 posts

242 months

Wednesday 4th December 2024
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Stick Legs said:
Belle427 said:
The 4.3 is seen by most as the sweetest engine of the lot.
Not a fan of those wheels but looks good.
I’d be looking to swap a set of Estorils on to it, or maybe even the 5 spokes that the very early cars came on, but that’s not a deal breaker.



Actually I really like these.

Edited by Stick Legs on Tuesday 3rd December 20:21
They look a bit like the original Amil wheels which are lovely, not many styles suit these cars in my opinion but Estorils look fantastic too.
Tyre choice is the main reason people change, not many performance tyres are available for original sizes and you really need them on these cars.
I would hold out for a car with the chassis already done as your looking at probably spending another £6000 to get it refurbed properly in the future, £23k should buy you a car already sorted in this current climate.


Edited by Belle427 on Wednesday 4th December 07:17

2 sMoKiN bArReLs

30,743 posts

244 months

Wednesday 4th December 2024
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Stick Legs said:
sixor8 said:
The 3rd page of the thread about Lanoguard in the Classics area has a few users unimpressed. frown

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
As a long term solution to maintaining a perfect chassis, then no, it's probably rubbish.

As a non permanent way of putting your finger in the dyke, or preventing a bit of flaky underbody from becoming significantly worse in the near future it's not bad.

If I was going to have a chassis rebuilt and repainted it would be Dinitrol all the way.

However over the last 4 years I have used it on my Range Rover at the end of the summer to just help protect the underbody from winter salt and muck and a litre and half of the stuff sprayed liberally and semi-discriminately hasn't done any harm.

I’m no expert, but can only speak as I find. I bought my 2000 Chimaera in 2003 and had it fully treated with Waxoyl. This treatment was checked and repaired as necessary every service.

I sold the car in 2019, when it had a full refurbishment. Nothing on the chassis needed a repair.

It must be one of a very few still to have the original outriggers!