Philips Hue Lighting - owners thread

Philips Hue Lighting - owners thread

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Lucas Ayde

2,111 posts

116 months

Friday 8th January 2016
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murphster said:
Do these lights still work if the wifi is down? I.e can I just get them to turn on like a conventional light? Or is this just a downside to using these types of lights?

Edited by murphster on Monday 28th December 07:45
If it's just your wifi (and not your entire home network) that fails then you could still theoretically control the bulbs with something that has an ethernet connection, as the hue hub (old version anyway) will be ethernet connected. In practice though, it means you won't be able to use the mobile apps which are likely going to be your main interface to the system.

That said, something like a Hue Tap or a paired 'Living Colours' remote would still work as they don't use the hue hub. This is because the lights themselves use a separate mesh network of their own and don't depend on your house wifi to talk to each other and a suitable controller can talk directly to this network.

The Hue and Hue Lux lightbulbs can work as normal bulbs with an on/off switch, even without being controlled by anything else. If you turn them off at the lightswitch, they will go full brightness white when turned back on and function just as a regular white bulb. The accent lights however will retain their state when last powered on so they may not be useful if they were dimmed down to the off state.

Lucas Ayde

2,111 posts

116 months

Friday 8th January 2016
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DSLiverpool said:
Ta - I have an old one but for the price the bulbs were worth it, its for one room and I was going to buy wifi plugs until I saw this.
The bulbs are going to be compatible with either hub so if there was something that needs a newer one for compatibility, you could just buy one in the future to use with your existing Hue setup.

Also, the main difference between the hubs is that the newer one has wifi. I can't see any reason why one would have more or less compatibility with 3rd party standards than the other, unless Philips are going to play silly marketing games (which given their behaviour with blocking 3rd party bulbs with a recent firmware update, I guess they might do).


Oakey

24,530 posts

164 months

Sunday 10th January 2016
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I got the new 2m Light Strips Plus kit yesterday, unfortunately it's going straight back as some of the white LEDs on a section of strip simply don't work and the yellow LEDs flicker when yoy move it about. The RGB ones work fine though.

Seen a few comments on Reddit over the last few weeks from people with the same issue.

It looks like the new strip is more prone to failure as the ribbon cable is just loosely enclosed in a rubber sheath rather than being encased in resin like the gen 1

Digger

11,205 posts

139 months

Sunday 10th January 2016
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Also it's not 2m, the led section is 1.8m the cheeky beggars!

Matt..

2,930 posts

137 months

Sunday 10th January 2016
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I have the new hub and white bulbs. My living room, dining room, and bedroom now have bulbs. I think it's very good. I have timers on the lights and scenes. For example, I use Sleep Cycle on my iPhone connected to hue, and this wakes me up in the morning. I then have a timer to turn on lights for when I go for breakfast, and I've set them all to turn off when I leave the house.

The best thing is Sleep Cycle and using Hue to turn on my bedroom light. It works so well, and wakes me up before the alarm goes off.

The white bulbs are fairly good value at £15. But the colour ones are crazy expensive!

HairyMaclary

2,916 posts

143 months

Friday 15th January 2016
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Picked up a lightify starter kit for £10 from Tesco earlier. Bulbs are half price at £15.50 too.

Whats the best app to use on android? The osram stock one wont do a sunrise startup. Wanted it for this feature!

Any ideas?

Oakey

24,530 posts

164 months

Friday 15th January 2016
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The Osram bulbs are £15 on Amazon too, are they no longer producing them or something?

ecsrobin

10,228 posts

113 months

Friday 15th January 2016
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HairyMaclary said:
Picked up a lightify starter kit for £10 from Tesco earlier. Bulbs are half price at £15.50 too.

Whats the best app to use on android? The osram stock one wont do a sunrise startup. Wanted it for this feature!

Any ideas?
It's showing £20 online just for the hub. May have to see if my local tesco has it for £10

HairyMaclary

2,916 posts

143 months

Saturday 16th January 2016
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ecsrobin said:
HairyMaclary said:
Picked up a lightify starter kit for £10 from Tesco earlier. Bulbs are half price at £15.50 too.

Whats the best app to use on android? The osram stock one wont do a sunrise startup. Wanted it for this feature!

Any ideas?
It's showing £20 online just for the hub. May have to see if my local tesco has it for £10
Yup. They had one on yellow sticker as it has a damaged box.



Oakey

24,530 posts

164 months

Saturday 16th January 2016
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Has anyone tried an e14 to e27 adapter and are they safe? The ones on Amazon have okay reviews but the 1 star ones put me right off.

They range from the screw part coming off in the lamp to it starting to melt.

Given the simplicity of such a thing you'd think they'd be a little more well constructed.

HairyMaclary

2,916 posts

143 months

Sunday 17th January 2016
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Oakey said:
Has anyone tried an e14 to e27 adapter and are they safe? The ones on Amazon have okay reviews but the 1 star ones put me right off.

They range from the screw part coming off in the lamp to it starting to melt.

Given the simplicity of such a thing you'd think they'd be a little more well constructed.

Have the ikea ones throught the house. Think they were a quid for two. House hasnt burned down yet. They are all used on led bulbs so wont be getting very hot.

Matt..

2,930 posts

137 months

Monday 18th January 2016
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I really do wish the colour bulbs weren't £50. It's a little insane.

I picked up one of the Osram Lightify RGB bulbs for £15 and it seems ok. Not as smooth as the Hue bulbs though, so i won't use it in rooms with other Hue bulbs, or where it needs to be very reliable.

ecsrobin

10,228 posts

113 months

Monday 18th January 2016
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I popped into tesco and they had the osram, belkin and Phillips offerings. All of a similar price with hub and 2 bulbs. I held off just to check what fittings I'd use and now I think I'm actually sold on the hue mk2 however my light fitting needs 4 bulbs so that's £200 with hub and I wanted the strip light at £70 but nowhere has it in stock. Suddenly I feel like a normal bulb is fine.

Matt..

2,930 posts

137 months

Monday 18th January 2016
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Why not get hue with the white bulbs? They are only £15/each.

ecsrobin

10,228 posts

113 months

Tuesday 19th January 2016
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Matt.. said:
Why not get hue with the white bulbs? They are only £15/each.
I need gu10 fittings for most of the house which don't come in the White bulb.

tankplanker

2,477 posts

227 months

Tuesday 19th January 2016
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To keep the cost down I'm using a mix of Phillips Hue and "normal" LED bulbs in devices controlled by a z-wave socket across my house. I use openhab to monitor the Phillips Hue bulb(s) in the room and then turn on the normal bulbs that are also in the room. Depending on the time of day and/or lux in the room (I have z-wave motion sensors) I can then further tweak the bulbs.

Oakey

24,530 posts

164 months

Tuesday 19th January 2016
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ecsrobin said:
I need gu10 fittings for most of the house which don't come in the White bulb.
You'll want to make sure they actually fit as they're bigger than normal GU10s apparently.

Also, Amazon and John Lewis have the Light Strip. Good luck though, I got my replacement and although all the LEDs work this time there's one 12inch section where if you merely press your finger on it the white LEDs will turn off and back on when you release. The previous model was encased in resin which I suspect protected the ribbon cable, the new one, it's very easy to crease the ribbon without even trying.

The adhesive is also crap, I used some super strong double sided foam tape I had but even that won't keep the Light Strip stuck down to a surface, I think the heat from the LEDs just cause it to peel away from whatever it's stuck to.

marctwo

3,666 posts

208 months

Wednesday 20th January 2016
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marctwo said:
Magic919 said:
It's more that you can't add any further 'untested' third party bulbs.
Great timing. I just tried to add some Osram Lightify bulbs mad
Philips have reversed this change in their latest firmware. Tested and working with Osram Lightify RGB bulbs thumbup

Teppic

5,483 posts

205 months

Wednesday 20th January 2016
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HairyMaclary said:
ecsrobin said:
HairyMaclary said:
Picked up a lightify starter kit for £10 from Tesco earlier. Bulbs are half price at £15.50 too.

Whats the best app to use on android? The osram stock one wont do a sunrise startup. Wanted it for this feature!

Any ideas?
It's showing £20 online just for the hub. May have to see if my local tesco has it for £10
Yup. They had one on yellow sticker as it has a damaged box.
I've got the Belkin WeMo kit, with two bulbs, and I'm quite imopressed with it.

I would have preferred to get the Osram Lightify kit, but from what I can see it is virtually impossible to get the bulbs with a bayonet (B22d) mount. Has anyone got any ideas or know of a supplier for B22d lightify RGB bulbs? I'm also after about three GU10 bulbs. Lightify is (according to Belkin) compatible with WeMo, but every supplier I've come across only seems to do E27.

I can't use an E27 to B22d adapter as the light fitting that I'll be using it in is only just big enough to take the WeMo bulb as it is, without adding any extra length to it!


Edited by Teppic on Wednesday 20th January 16:22

Oakey

24,530 posts

164 months

Wednesday 20th January 2016
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How are your wiring skills? Could convert it to E27, I've thought about it for my e14 lamps