ad blocker no longer works with youtube?

ad blocker no longer works with youtube?

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Durzel

12,480 posts

176 months

Sunday 15th October 2023
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LunarOne said:
Youtube Premium. A few quid a month, you still support the channels you enjoy while never seeing any ads. And you get Youtube Music included. Why wouldn't you?!
It’s £16.99/month last I checked.

If you VPN to Turkey or Pakistan or something then it’s 1/10th of the price. If I could be bothered to do that (I don’t want to have to create another YouTube account and start from scratch with recommendations etc) I would.

As it is I just suffer the ads (on iPhone)

(Yes I’m aware that the relative wealth and incomes of UK vs Turkey are different therefore that’s why the prices are different, but it’s an identical service so it grates)

MitchT

16,270 posts

217 months

Sunday 15th October 2023
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Not quite an ad thing but, here's a strange one...

I've just bought a new MacBook Pro which is currently running Mac OS 13.6 "Ventura". When I watch some (but by no means all) videos on YouTube, near the end, one or more boxes appear over the video that are like windows to related content. You can click on them to get the content to start playing. It's annoying because it obscures the last few moments of the video. On my old MacBook Pro which is running Mac OS 10.13.6 "High Sierra" this doesn't happen!

I can't find a way to turn it off! I can "zap" the content in Ublock Origin but the windows are still there, just without the content inside them, so that doesn't solve the issue.

All of the above is in Firefox.

FourWheelDrift

89,683 posts

292 months

Sunday 15th October 2023
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It's one of youtubes "features" that no one likes.

TameRacingDriver

18,600 posts

280 months

Sunday 15th October 2023
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Durzel said:
It’s £16.99/month last I checked.

If you VPN to Turkey or Pakistan or something then it’s 1/10th of the price. If I could be bothered to do that (I don’t want to have to create another YouTube account and start from scratch with recommendations etc) I would.

As it is I just suffer the ads (on iPhone)

(Yes I’m aware that the relative wealth and incomes of UK vs Turkey are different therefore that’s why the prices are different, but it’s an identical service so it grates)
£16.99 is the family plan. It's £11.99 for the normal Premium plan. (Edit: I've googled it and it's gone up again, now £12.99)

Know what you mean about the VPN, lots of people do it, but I believe they're starting to clamp down on that as well, apart from the arse on of creating a new YouTube / Google account, people have had difficulty renewing their cards and whatnot when they expire. Too much hassle for me.

C n C

3,595 posts

229 months

Sunday 15th October 2023
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I think I already know the answer to this (which is "no"), but is there any way to block ads when using the YouTube app on a Sky Q box?

MitchT

16,270 posts

217 months

Sunday 15th October 2023
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FourWheelDrift said:
It's one of youtubes "features" that no one likes.
The odd thing is, some videos have it and some don't, so I can only surmise that it's the content creators that are activating it.

Also, my new MacBook Pro has Firefox 118.0.2 on it while my old one has 115.3.1. They're both showing as up-to-date, so I guess my old Mac can't run the latest version and is up-to-date in so much as it's running the newest version of FF that it can support. Maybe there's something about the old version that can't display this YouTube feature.

MitchT

16,270 posts

217 months

Sunday 15th October 2023
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Fixed the unwanted "end cards" issue.
Instructions here: https://www.makeuseof.com/remove-youtube-end-cards...
I used the method where you create a filter in uBlock Origin.

FourWheelDrift

89,683 posts

292 months

Monday 16th October 2023
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As per my earlier Ublock filter list add the following to your filter too.

youtube.com##+js(set, yt.config_.openPopupConfig.supportedPopups.adBlockMessageViewModel, false)
youtube.com##+js(set, Object.prototype.adBlocksFound, 0)
youtube.com##+js(set, ytplayer.config.args.raw_player_response.adPlacements, [])
youtube.com##+js(set, Object.prototype.hasAllowedInstreamAd, true)

MitchT

16,270 posts

217 months

Monday 16th October 2023
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TameRacingDriver said:
Lucas Ayde said:
Youtube isn't making money, that's the problem.

If you are 'consuming content' on it without viewing the ads (or subbing to a paid Premium account), then they are losing money serving it to you.

There is a totally massive capital investment - and operational expenditure - in running the infrastructure that holds an immense amount of video and allows anyone to upload stuff to it to have it distributed to the World 'for free'.
I do often wonder if I should really just pay up considering how often I use it. A thought I've had for a while. The issue is some of the functionality doesn't really work too well and I'm loath to pay for something if it only partially works.
The issue is, the adverts ruin the content. I tried to watch a 20 minute YouTube car video on my big TV via my Amazon Firestick and it was totally unwatchable. There were four lots of ads in 20 minutes and they kicked in when the presenter was mid-sentence. If there was no way to block such poorly timed ads then I'd stop using YouTube altogether. If they have an issue with lost revenue caused by ad blockers then they need to do better - plain and simple! I think Ratarossa (for example) has it nailed as he works with sponsors that are relevant to the subject and delivers the speil himself at an approproate moment. When it's done this way you can't block it and I've no desire to anyway as it's relevant and delivered by a presenter that has already engaged me. I realise this doesn't direclty help YouTube to replace lost revenues (unless they take a cut of what the content creator is paid by the sponsor) but they're just going to have to be creative and come up with something better than the current shower.

Alickadoo

2,306 posts

31 months

Wednesday 18th October 2023
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steveo3002 said:
Alickadoo said:
Click on the 'X' at top right and it will go away.
it did then stepped up to 3 more videos and youre done lol
Yes, that's what it's now saying to me.

g4ry13

18,557 posts

263 months

Wednesday 18th October 2023
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I had been receiving the warning message about ad blockers not being allowed for last few days. Then it changed to telling me I had 5 videos left, then 4, 3 etc. I can't currently watch videos on my browser but works in Brave.

I have seen solutions involving TamperMonkey for Chrome but can't be bothered yet. Definitely not planning to pay for premium. If I were going down that route, I hear it can be done for a lot cheaper than paying the UK price.

MissChief

7,255 posts

176 months

Wednesday 18th October 2023
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Durzel said:
LunarOne said:
Youtube Premium. A few quid a month, you still support the channels you enjoy while never seeing any ads. And you get Youtube Music included. Why wouldn't you?!
It’s £16.99/month last I checked.

If you VPN to Turkey or Pakistan or something then it’s 1/10th of the price. If I could be bothered to do that (I don’t want to have to create another YouTube account and start from scratch with recommendations etc) I would.

As it is I just suffer the ads (on iPhone)

(Yes I’m aware that the relative wealth and incomes of UK vs Turkey are different therefore that’s why the prices are different, but it’s an identical service so it grates)
This is just it. I'd probably subscribe to Premium if it was £6 or £7 per month. It's not, it's £14pm. That's far, far too high just to watch without ads. Compare that to Apple TV or Netflix where you actually get original content updated regularly with decent writing, effects and established IP as well. If it were cheaper I'd consider it, but now I just update uBlock Origin every couple of days.

benjipeg

219 posts

213 months

Wednesday 18th October 2023
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getting the 3 vid thing on brave now sad

Derek Smith

46,551 posts

256 months

Thursday 19th October 2023
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I'm considering using Vimeo for production of videos. I'd rather pay them fractionally less PCM.

I used Brave in the main but use Chrome without adblocking for YT. It means I spend less time surfing on YT so for me it's been a good thing.


TameRacingDriver

18,600 posts

280 months

Thursday 19th October 2023
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MissChief said:
This is just it. I'd probably subscribe to Premium if it was £6 or £7 per month. It's not, it's £14pm. That's far, far too high just to watch without ads. Compare that to Apple TV or Netflix where you actually get original content updated regularly with decent writing, effects and established IP as well. If it were cheaper I'd consider it, but now I just update uBlock Origin every couple of days.
Same. Even if it was just £10 then I'd pay it, but £13 for a single person subscription is just too much really for me, especially knowing they just take the piss and keep putting the price up every year.

FourWheelDrift

89,683 posts

292 months

Thursday 19th October 2023
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Ham_and_Jam said:
Is there a way of stopping ads on YT for an iPhone?

I don’t use YT that much, certainly not enought to subscribe, just find the ads frustrating. I always skip / just do something else until they’ve played out.
What about YouTube++? I don't have an iPhone to test it - https://revanced.net/revanced-for-ios (it's on the Revanced website which is an Android blocker)

g4ry13

18,557 posts

263 months

Thursday 19th October 2023
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Derek Smith said:
I'm considering using Vimeo for production of videos. I'd rather pay them fractionally less PCM.

I used Brave in the main but use Chrome without adblocking for YT. It means I spend less time surfing on YT so for me it's been a good thing.
I'm definitely a bit less inclined to keep another browser window open and switch to it in order to watch YT. Probably for the best and gives me some time back.

FourWheelDrift

89,683 posts

292 months

Thursday 19th October 2023
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Chrome extension Fadblock, it's skips to the end of adverts in 50mlilseconds so you might see a flash image but doesn't really interrupt the main video the advert was loaded so no creator revenue lost I guess.

Fadblock author on reddit - https://www.reddit.com/r/youtube/comments/177ijjb/...

Fadblock on github as it can also be installed to other browsers - https://github.com/0x48piraj/fadblock?search=1

Fadblock chrome extension - https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/fadblock...

It certainly zaps midroll adverts I have tested that right now.

Megaflow

9,964 posts

233 months

Thursday 19th October 2023
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dapprman said:
LunarOne said:
Youtube Premium. A few quid a month, you still support the channels you enjoy while never seeing any ads. And you get Youtube Music included. Why wouldn't you?!
You might want to read about the adpocolypse and the vast reduction in incomes for non-US YouTubers (probably US ones now as well). Additionally, if you watch educational historical channels which cover war (channels such as The Great War and World War Two) then they are already demonetised and so receive no income regardless of whether you watch premium or not.

Wish there was a way to block on Android TV. I watch YouTube on my TV set using the native (Android TV) app.
So do I! I do most of my watching on an Android TV and the adverts got to the point of making it unusable. I had a Pi-Hole for a while, but they they started embedding adverts, or something, that stopped that working. I have had to go down the Premium route, which sadly I signed up for before I realised I could use a VPN to get it cheaper.

dundarach

5,384 posts

236 months

Thursday 19th October 2023
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I only tend to watch long videos, I'll just jdownload them and watch as videos if I have to.