Abarth 595 Competizione as a daily?

Abarth 595 Competizione as a daily?

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geeks

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6,902 posts

106 months

Thursday 7th June 2018
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Well then, looks like I could be in line for a brand new one, just been offered a superb deal on a comp with the performance pack, apparently you can still get it if you don't mind waiting!

Now to chose the colour, so I go for; Modena Yellow (Black Graphics, Black Calipers), Abarth Red (Black Graphics, Red Calipers) or Record Grey (Grey Matt Graphics and Yellow Calipers)? I can't make my mind up..

Spec wise I am thinking:
Supersports in Matt Black
Beats Audio

Jester86

243 posts

76 months

Thursday 7th June 2018
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Supersports come as part of the performance pack!

I would spec the larger 7" screen also.

ecsrobin

13,049 posts

132 months

Thursday 7th June 2018
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Certainly get the 7” screen and the beats is very good I like the yellow however be warned it attracts a lot of wildlife in the warmer weather I’m led to believe.

Also confirm if it has the xenon headlights as I believe these are no longer standard.

This week I did a driving tour with Goodwood Road race club and despite all the exotic machinery I had a lot of interest in the car, then I met with other members at the clubhouse where I had a lady declare mine was the best car.


And yesterday my car attracted a lot of attention from some visitors despite the fact their office is metres away from an Abarth dealership.

lee44

36 posts

128 months

Friday 8th June 2018
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The 2 year deal on my 180 Comp convertible is up next month so have been talking to the dealer about trading in for a new one. The deals on another Comp for me are terrible at the moment, even by their own admission. Been offered a UK stock yellow comp with the performance pack, carbon dash and 7inch screen but no xenons or dipping rear view mirror and they are struggling to get it under £350pm. In comparison I can have a yellow Trofeo (with a bit of extra cash on top of the equity from my current car) for around £140pm. Not really interested in anything other than a Comp so keeping my current car seems to be the best option at the moment.

If you are planning on ordering new a one there's a couple of things to consider. The factory is currently closed to adapt for the new vehicle testing rules with no firm date when it will reopen. Given the factory also shuts all of August for a summer holiday they won't realistically be starting production again until September. That means first deliveries will be about December. I expect there's already a backlog of orders (factory closed early May) so it could even be the new year before your car arrives.

UK stock of new cars is already getting low and won't last anywhere near to the end of the year so that's not going to be an option soon, and I was told there's a 1% to 4% price hike expected across all FCA brands sometime in June for any stock that is still available.

All of that is bound to have an effect on nearly new car prices so I'd even act quick if that was the road you were going to take.

Stuart J

1,301 posts

224 months

Friday 8th June 2018
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lee44 said:
The 2 year deal on my 180 Comp convertible is up next month so have been talking to the dealer about trading in for a new one. The deals on another Comp for me are terrible at the moment, even by their own admission. Been offered a UK stock yellow comp with the performance pack, carbon dash and 7inch screen but no xenons or dipping rear view mirror and they are struggling to get it under £350pm. In comparison I can have a yellow Trofeo (with a bit of extra cash on top of the equity from my current car) for around £140pm. Not really interested in anything other than a Comp so keeping my current car seems to be the best option at the moment.

If you are planning on ordering new a one there's a couple of things to consider. The factory is currently closed to adapt for the new vehicle testing rules with no firm date when it will reopen. Given the factory also shuts all of August for a summer holiday they won't realistically be starting production again until September. That means first deliveries will be about December. I expect there's already a backlog of orders (factory closed early May) so it could even be the new year before your car arrives.

UK stock of new cars is already getting low and won't last anywhere near to the end of the year so that's not going to be an option soon, and I was told there's a 1% to 4% price hike expected across all FCA brands sometime in June for any stock that is still available.

All of that is bound to have an effect on nearly new car prices so I'd even act quick if that was the road you were going to take.
On the plus side any cars made but not complying with the new emission regs need to be sold by the end of August or scrapped so anything not sold will have to be registered by the manufacturer and dumped through the dealer network So there will be some cheap cars to be had somewhere but probably nothing that’s desireable

lee44

36 posts

128 months

Friday 8th June 2018
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Stuart J said:
On the plus side any cars made but not complying with the new emission regs need to be sold by the end of August or scrapped so anything not sold will have to be registered by the manufacturer and dumped through the dealer network So there will be some cheap cars to be had somewhere but probably nothing that’s desireable
Haven't thought about that, nor had the dealer mentioned it!
As you say though, it'll be the bottom of the barrel stuff left by then

Stuart J

1,301 posts

224 months

Friday 8th June 2018
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lee44 said:
Haven't thought about that, nor had the dealer mentioned it!
As you say though, it'll be the bottom of the barrel stuff left by then
Who knows , depends what hasn’t sold , I’m guessing there will be clues if any dealer incentives appear in the next few weeks but will I would have thought be good if your looking for a daily workhorse

595Heaven

1,461 posts

45 months

Saturday 9th June 2018
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Stuart J said:
On the plus side any cars made but not complying with the new emission regs need to be sold by the end of August or scrapped so anything not sold will have to be registered by the manufacturer and dumped through the dealer network So there will be some cheap cars to be had somewhere but probably nothing that’s desireable
Not quite true - Manufacturers can apply for series derogation for vehicles built more than three months before the deadline which allows them to continue to be sold. This can be applied to up to 10% of the last full year volume. These will probably be a better buy, as the CO2 is likely to be lower than for WLTP certified cars.

It is true that the move to WLTP certification (albeit with a CO2MPAS back-calculated NEDC value used for VED taxation) is going to cause some short term supply issues... If you go on the Porsche configurator you can look but not buy as an example!

Stuart J

1,301 posts

224 months

Saturday 9th June 2018
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Didn’t know about the 3 month waiver but agree on the rest, I knew Porsche had slowed or stoped production , same with Alfa and I guess many others , I’ve also “ heard “ manufacturers are tweaking emitions upwards as they have to achieve a certain percentage drop by an agreed date , not sure if it’s true but raising the base reading would make it easier

595Heaven

1,461 posts

45 months

Saturday 9th June 2018
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I’d be amazed if anyone is setting their emissions higher than reality, as this helps no one other than HM Treasury, with higher VED income.

The move to WLTP certification, but with a back-calculated NEDC figure for taxation was supposed to mean no change to overall taxation, but this has proved not to be the case, and most OEM’s Combined CO2 data is now at least 10g/km higher than under NEDC. It will be very interesting so see what happens in the budget this autumn. The hope is that they will change the VED bands.

We won’t start actually being taxed on WLTP until 2020.

geeks

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6,902 posts

106 months

Monday 11th June 2018
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Well it's ordered, apparently it's an 8-12 week wait for a factory build as the 500 and the 595 are still being made but the others are not... Dunno we'll see I guess.

595Heaven

1,461 posts

45 months

Monday 11th June 2018
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geeks said:
Well it's ordered
clap

geeks

Original Poster:

6,902 posts

106 months

Monday 11th June 2018
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595Heaven said:
geeks said:
Well it's ordered
clap
I am quite excited, this is the first time I have ever ordered a new car, time is going to drag lol!

ecsrobin

13,049 posts

132 months

Monday 11th June 2018
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What spec did you go for in the end?

geeks

Original Poster:

6,902 posts

106 months

Monday 11th June 2018
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ecsrobin said:
What spec did you go for in the end?
Not telling :P








Ok I give in I'll tell you, jeez whats with the interrogation? hehe

595 Comp
Red + Black Graphics/Calipers
Performance Pack
7" Nav

DELTAHPE

200 posts

205 months

Sunday 17th June 2018
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Good colour choice! I might be guilty of buying one of the cars you were looking for..... Great so far I just would've liked a 7 inch media screen but can't have everything. You do right I think to buy new if you can I couldn't quite stretch to it so had to try and find the best one that I could. Not really a lot cheaper than new but I was pushing it to afford this one. Believe it or not only 490 miles on the clock when in picked it up it still feels tight, I'm hoping it will get faster with more use

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Edited by DELTAHPE on Sunday 17th June 22:31

KDC-NZ

25 posts

38 months

Sunday 17th June 2018
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I am intrigued by these little pocket rockets.

Can someone explain the different models?

I’ve found what’s the difference between the 595 and the 695? And what about the limited editions -Ferrari / Maserati / Rivale?

DELTAHPE

200 posts

205 months

Sunday 17th June 2018
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The 695 ones are just sort of special editions, they don't offer anything over a 595 comp (unless you want a mental track day car then you want a 695 biposto) really it just comes down to personal taste. The rivale is kind of posh, a bit elegant, but personally I think a comp is better for an enthusiast. You are best to pop to a dealer and have a look but it is confusing

The Ferrari and Maserati editions command, IMHO, unjustified premium over normal versions you are better off with a S4 comp with Performance pack unless you really want the snob value

Edited by DELTAHPE on Sunday 17th June 17:42

KDC-NZ

25 posts

38 months

Sunday 17th June 2018
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Thanks for your reply.

Unfortunately these aren’t common where we live and the dealers aren’t as knowledgeable as you lot. (They only sell the 595 Competizone in New Zealand - nothing else). We are happy to buy the right car in the UK and bring it over if required

The idea behind one of these was a fun toy car for my and my wife to share when we feel like a bit of fun for short trips mostly in the city. Our current cars are perfectly suited to road trips and long journeys but can’t be exploited in town.

No snob value needed - the fact is over here no one will know what it is anyway.

So basically what would you buy that would be the most fun for a short blast on the road and the odd lap at a track day.

Edited by KDC-NZ on Sunday 17th June 18:02

DELTAHPE

200 posts

205 months

Sunday 17th June 2018
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I'd say series 4 comp with performance pack this will get you konis all round and the mechanical LSD that will probably help on the track, other extras are down to personal preference. The 695 biposto is very purposeful but probably too stripped out for day to day use. Check out you tube you'll find quite a lot of info there. If you can reach the UK abarth site it will show you more about each model and you can download a brochure but of course spec may vary from country to country. You can get sizable discounts on new ones here