Is the Giulia Quafrifoglio a future classic?

[MadCaptainJack]

With reports that all future Alfa Romeos will be electrified, and the Giulia's platform is set to be retired because it was never engineered for electrification, it seems like the MY21 Giulia Quadrifoglio might be the last decent non-hybrid/electric Alfa.

So, is it a future classic, set to go down in history as the last pertrol-fuelled hurrah of the Alfa Romeo marque?

Or will it fade into obscurity alongside the current pack of sporty saloons, forgotten by all except a few die-hard Alfistas?

[cowbit]

Too few categories. I would vote for “No, why should it”

[LamedonM]

Classic? For an unreliable car, though I am thinking of buying one

[off_again]

Future classic? Yup.

Rare? Yeah, they didnt sell that many in comparison to its competitors. So thats ticked.

Special? Oh yeah, amazing reviews and one of the best, if not the best in its segment

Brand? Yup. Those that know, know. Those that dont, probably dont care, but thats fine, we are aiming at enthusiasts anyway!

Exotic materials? Ok, maybe not a carbon special, but it has a Ferrari engineered engine, so there is that!

There you go. Limited supply, rare, excellent brand and highly regarded to its competitors. Includes parts from other brands and is a special car for what it is. Hits all of the points needed for some sort of classic and increase in value. And as numbers diminish over time, they arent going to make something like this again - so when you break it down, instant classic the likes we wont see again. So yeah, just buy one!

[Sensibleboy]

Everything becomes a classic in time.

[Jaroon]

Biased as an owner, incredible drive underestimated if anything but will be very mileage sensitive.
I "drive" mine and intend to as designed. Garage queens may be future classics but the trade off of enjoying it and losing residuals out weighs just driving it as designed. I think caredfor examples will deprecate slower. As an owner (actual lol) I'm ambivalent, I'm enjoying and hope 2/3 owners enjoy it after me but no idea what I'd replace it with.

[Moley RUFC]

Sensibleboy said:

Everything becomes a classic in time.

In terms of what? Value? Desirability?

[Tim bo]

Moley RUFC said:

Sensibleboy said:

Everything becomes a classic in time.

In terms of what? Value? Desirability?

Age, I suspect.

[MadCaptainJack]

So, as of right now, more than 2/3rds of poll respondents think the Giulia QF either will become or already is, a classic.

More importantly, “Just buy one already!” Is the most popular option, and who am I to challenge the collective wisdom of the PH forums?

[MadCaptainJack]

I test drove a MY19 this morning. Warmed her up on a dual carriageway, then took her for a spin around some quiet roads with lots of big roundabouts, before finishing off with a roar through a tunnel. I didn't put her in race mode (she was on P Zero Corsas, and there were some damp patches from early morning rain) but I still managed to wag her tail on a couple of roundabouts. I was pleasantly surprised to discover that she was quite forgiving, although I imagine it might be a different story if she were in race mode.

Overall impression: amazing car. The only thing standing between me and placing an order is a test drive in an M3 Competition, and that's only because I feel I ought to drive another RWD sports saloon for comparison before I pull the trigger. I don't really see myself driving around in something that looks like an angry buck-toothed beaver.

I have a sneaking suspicion I'll be getting used to this view (albeit with the upgraded steering wheel and a red fascia).

[anonymous-user]

Cool car but I could never get past the low reliability scores, not that Ze Gerrrman brands are much better..

[Truckosaurus]

It'll be a desirable car in 20yrs, if you keep it in perfect condition and not use it, and it will still only be worth a fraction of what you pay for it.

(Let alone the fact modern cars are so much more complex than previous generations)

[blackrabbit]

I have been thinking of buying a manual one as I think for sure they will be. LHD only but thats ok.

[Limpet]

Schmed said:

Cool car but I could never get past the low reliability scores, not that Ze Gerrrman brands are much better..

I suspect there's not a world of difference in reliability between a modern Alfa and a modern BMW.

But I also suspect there's a gulf between them in terms of the dealer support, spare parts and technical backup and the overall customer experience.

[SWoll]

Lovely thing, and definitely the pick of the performance ICE saloons for me both from a looks and drivertrain perspective. Problem is, as with every other Alfa I've tried over the past 20 years, I don't bloody fit. Never enough headroom.

[MadCaptainJack]

How tall are you?

[spreadsheet monkey]

Yes it'll be a classic in the same way an Alfa 75 Quadrifoglio is a classic now i.e. it'll take 25 years and even then it will only be a niche thing.

[MadCaptainJack]

MadCaptainJack said:

The only thing standing between me and placing an order is a test drive in an M3 Competition, and that's only because I feel I ought to drive another RWD sports saloon for comparison before I pull the trigger.

I test drove the M3 Comp today.


See if you can spot the moment it unexpectedly got a bit out of shape coming off a roundabout.


Compared to the Quadrifoglio, the M3 felt more brutal, more raw, less refined. The end result for me was that it felt less confidence-inspiring, and not as much fun to drive as the Alfa.

[GRD_72]

Truckosaurus said:

Let alone the fact modern cars are so much more complex than previous generations)

You highlight a very good point here, I think many modern cars that may look like future ‘classics’ will actually be a nightmare in 15-25 years time as they are stuffed so full of electronics and sensors that may all be obsolete far too soon. We’ll see I guess.

[viggyp]

Yes, of course it is a future classic. It's an Italian performance car and most seem go up in price after 20+ years despite the slating they can get for unreliability (a lot of people who state that have never even been in an Italian car let alone owned one).

Look at the Alfa 75 regardless of whether it is a turbo, twin spark or V6. They are going up in value and I'm gutted I never bought one when I had a chance to. Alfa 155 is commanding a good price despite it isn't exactly the marque's best model. Also the 156GTA are going at silly prices now.

I see a lovely blue one in central London most days...It's a stunner.