Parking - Grass Reinforcement Mesh

Parking - Grass Reinforcement Mesh

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Rick101

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163 months

Friday 20th May 2022
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Thought I'd post up some info if anyone is considering the same.

I am not a Red Bull wielding quite Director yet and as such have to make do with a single access driveway. The shame!
I have an entirely useless piece of grass as the front of the house and was looking for a solution for occasional parking.
I can street park but it's not ideal. I'm on a thoroughfare so busses, school run and general traffic is fairly regular.

Sadly the Caterham I had previously didn't get as much use as it should have simply because I couldn't be arsed doing the car switcharoo for anything other than a dedicated driving event.

I considered mesh but was told by several people, including professionals, it was a waste of time. The other option was removing the grass and redoing the entire driveway in imprinted concrete or block paving. Didn't bother getting quotes, I can't imagine it would have been cheap.

I found a company selling grass reinforcement mesh online. Various weights (for usage/vehicles) I went for the middle one even though my use is very occasional. All in came out at around £400. I was happy to spend that to try it and if it was rubbish I'd look at the £XXXX paving option.
The other benefit of this type of mesh is self install is very easy. No labour costs. Just a matter of rolling it out and pinning it down.



So.
Install. Easy to do. No surprises. Some odd looks from the neighbours and looks pretty conspicuous.
Hope it improves or it'll be coming up and going to the skip.




10 days in a little grass starting to show through


1 month in and a good coverage of grass


A year down the line and it is completely unnoticeable. I scratched around in the grass to try and find it and thought some bds nicked it laugh



I found a bare patch, scrapped a bit away and you can see a tiny bit of the mesh has really become embedded in the top layer of soil.


Overall, very good product. Really happy with it and certainly worth considering if you are grass parking and not wanting it to look like Glasto on a Monday.

https://www.matsgrids.co.uk/c/grass-protection-rei...


Edited by Rick101 on Friday 20th May 14:49

sociopath

3,433 posts

79 months

Friday 20th May 2022
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Where's the "after" photo?

blueg33

40,285 posts

237 months

Friday 20th May 2022
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Need to show it after its been driven on a few times, especially in the wet, and cars with power steering has had some lock applied.

That mesh is basically way lighter than anything a professional would use.

Rick101

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163 months

Friday 20th May 2022
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No doubt lighter, prob a lot lighter on the wallet too!

Can't say I've used it much in the wet. Very occasionally but I'm careful manoeuvring onto it regardless of what I'm driving.

blueg33

40,285 posts

237 months

Friday 20th May 2022
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Rick101 said:
No doubt lighter, prob a lot lighter on the wallet too!

Can't say I've used it much in the wet. Very occasionally but I'm careful manoeuvring onto it regardless of what I'm driving.
It will probably be fine.

Just showed the pic's to my technical director, he rolled his eyes smile

biggiles

1,899 posts

238 months

Friday 20th May 2022
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Impressive OP.

I've placed a large heavy duty rubber mat (with holes) in a grassy gateway, and after not very long it's buried by the grass. Seems to protect the grass from being rubbed away too much by foot traffic, though not quite perfect.

Anyone with a robotic lawnmower will know how fast wires on the grass "bury themselves".

Rick101

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Friday 20th May 2022
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blueg33 said:
It will probably be fine.

Just showed the pic's to my technical director, he rolled his eyes smile
Genuine interest, what would be your suggestion?
Realistic timeframe? Costs etc?

Edited by Rick101 on Friday 20th May 15:47

blueg33

40,285 posts

237 months

Friday 20th May 2022
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Rick101 said:
blueg33 said:
It will probably be fine.

Just showed the pic's to my technical director, he rolled his eyes smile
Genuine interest, what would be your suggestion?
Realistic timeframe? Costs etc?
TBH for your use, I think its fine, especially of you are careful as you say you are. The stuff we use is much stiffer, can deal with power steering repeatedly without rucking up.

We use stuff like IBRAN and do it like this. But we have to give 12 year warranties on our site works, so a proper solution is needed



Rick101

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Friday 20th May 2022
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Ahh yes, that's definitely a much bigger job! If I was going to that level and having it all ripped up I'd just get it paved instead of reinstalling reinforced grass.

I'll probably use mine less than 5 times a year. Most of those will be a few hours if that, usually if I have a passenger as egress would have to be roadside otherwise.
Maybe once of twice I'll leave it parked overnight but a rarity and also 1100kg.

Sure, it'll not be the right solution for everybody but for my light usage it's done the trick!


Edited by Rick101 on Friday 20th May 15:50

blueg33

40,285 posts

237 months

Friday 20th May 2022
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Rick101 said:
Ahh yes, that's definitely a much bigger job!

I'll probably use the grass less than 5 times a year. Most of those will be a few hours if that, usually if I have a passenger as egress would have to be roadside otherwise.
Maybe once of twice I'll leave it parked overnight but a rarity and also 1100kg.

Sure, it'll not be the right solution for everybody but for my light usage it's done the trick!

Edited by Rick101 on Friday 20th May 15:49
For so little use it will be fine I'm sure, and even if it isnt with low cost you just re-do it.

Boosted LS1

21,198 posts

273 months

Friday 20th May 2022
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Ace idea and you get to keep the soil and biosystem underneath.

anonymous-user

67 months

Saturday 21st May 2022
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Looks interesting
I have a 2 car long driveway, double width at roadside. Making 3. Double width dropped kerb.
I need 3 places for recent extension & loss of garage that a 21st century car wouldn’t fit in to. For planning.
Now the drive/front garden is trashed by 3 months of skips
So rather than paying out for a complete new driveway I’d rather get the 2 car length done + this to restore green area that could be used occasionally
Will look better & save a couple of K!

After signoff



Edited by anonymous-user on Saturday 21st May 23:42

Fish

4,004 posts

295 months

Sunday 22nd May 2022
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another vote for ibran, great stuff..

C-J

268 posts

64 months

Monday 23rd May 2022
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Rick101 said:
https://www.matsgrids.co.uk/c/grass-protection-rei...


Edited by Rick101 on Friday 20th May 14:49
I'd not heard of this stuff before - so thanks for posting.

You might not know if only using a few times a years, but does it help spread the load a bit to prevent ruts forming?
I keep considering something like this for the 1-car-sized patch of grass in front of my house - however as it is literally only the size of a car then I'd have the wheels running in the same line each time, so thinking that it might sink and ruts forming. I occasionally drive over the grass in different lines to try and compact it in preparation!

Condi

18,604 posts

184 months

Monday 23rd May 2022
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C-J said:
You might not know if only using a few times a years, but does it help spread the load a bit to prevent ruts forming?
No. A friend used it for a couple of years and while it did allow the car tyres to get grip you got train-tracks where the wheels went, and it got very muddy as well. Looked a mess to be honest and as soon as he could afford it was ripped up and a proper driveway made. Taking it up was an issue in itself, as it broke into smaller pieces which were all half buried.

The solid frames are much better as they take the weight of the vehicle.

markjmd

561 posts

81 months

Monday 23rd May 2022
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Loving this thread. Question for the OP though - how often is your car parked on the reinforced area, how many times is it moved on and off, etc?

OutInTheShed

10,777 posts

39 months

Monday 23rd May 2022
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Condi said:
C-J said:
You might not know if only using a few times a years, but does it help spread the load a bit to prevent ruts forming?
No. A friend used it for a couple of years and while it did allow the car tyres to get grip you got train-tracks where the wheels went, and it got very muddy as well. Looked a mess to be honest and as soon as he could afford it was ripped up and a proper driveway made. Taking it up was an issue in itself, as it broke into smaller pieces which were all half buried.

The solid frames are much better as they take the weight of the vehicle.
Surely it all depends on what's under the grass?

We have two areas of grass that I park boats on at times.
One gets muddy, the other does not.
The muddy bit has poorer drainage and deeper soil.

If the ground is firm and well drained, the mesh only has to hold the surface together.
If the ground is soft, the weight of the car (or boat) will put big loads on the mesh.

Rick101

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Monday 23rd May 2022
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I had originally planned to use it a bit more with two vehicles but I decided to throw all my money into one ridiculous car so it's only used occasionally.

I had parked on the grass without the mesh and even driving off gently the torque would tear up the roots and I think that's what quickly starts a quagmire.
Whilst it's not the strongest or most permanent solution, it works great for me and was within a price range I was happy with.

The mesh will spread the load a little but I think it's main feature is reinforcing the top layer and protecting the roots.
They do sell different sizes which supposedly work better for heavier use or heavier vehicles though I'm not sure I'd ever want a 2T+ vehicle on grass for a duration.

I might grass park a bit more over the next month or so and take some pics for your entertainment.

p.s should add when I do grass park it's in the same position, same lines each time.

paulrockliffe

16,116 posts

240 months

Monday 23rd May 2022
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Rick101 said:
p.s should add when I do grass park it's in the same position, same lines each time.
You could have cut your costs dramatically then!

The other approach to this is to work out where you're going to use it and pave just that bit. If you were a bit creative with design and planting I think you could hide the fact that the paving would look out of place and get a decent compromise.

What about some raised flower beds, except the wall is where you park the car and there's a ramp built into the bed? You'd need to plant fairly low, non woody stuff, so strawberries?

Evoluzione

10,345 posts

256 months

Monday 23rd May 2022
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markjmd said:
Loving this thread. Question for the OP though - how often is your car parked on the reinforced area, how many times is it moved on and off, etc?
You don't love it enough to actually read it though.

With the use it's had it's been a waste of time and money.