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Drontal is good.
Trouble I always have is administering them. Tried the various methods of opening their mouths placing at the back of the throat then trying to make them swallow it, using an applicator to place at the back of the throat and rubbing the under chin to make them swallow but it stresses them out too much and they tear lumps out of me!
So put it in some fresh prawns and other seafood which worked once. Now no matter what foods I put it in, they detect it and turn their nose up the sods.
These days I purchase the stuff from the vet that goes on the back of the neck, a bit more expensive but worth it to not cause them stress and to save the skin on my hands and arms!
Trouble I always have is administering them. Tried the various methods of opening their mouths placing at the back of the throat then trying to make them swallow it, using an applicator to place at the back of the throat and rubbing the under chin to make them swallow but it stresses them out too much and they tear lumps out of me!
So put it in some fresh prawns and other seafood which worked once. Now no matter what foods I put it in, they detect it and turn their nose up the sods.
These days I purchase the stuff from the vet that goes on the back of the neck, a bit more expensive but worth it to not cause them stress and to save the skin on my hands and arms!
Superficial said:
The vets will rip you off. Fact.
Various worming treatments can be bought elsewhere nowadays, the internet, pet stores and normal pharmacies to name but a few.
I understand this to be the case, but have no idea about which treatment is any good. Amazon reviews suggest Drontal, but i thought i'd check here first!Various worming treatments can be bought elsewhere nowadays, the internet, pet stores and normal pharmacies to name but a few.
Superficial said:
The vets will rip you off. Fact.
Various worming treatments can be bought elsewhere nowadays, the internet, pet stores and normal pharmacies to name but a few.
We found the opposite. Had to get an emergency supply of Drontal XL from Countrywide store and it was £6.30 but when got some on a routine visit to the vets it was £2.70 and they offered to administer it for free which saved us hassle and skin!Various worming treatments can be bought elsewhere nowadays, the internet, pet stores and normal pharmacies to name but a few.
Not sure if its cheaper online but for a decent wormer (not Bob Martin s
t) you should need a vets prescription I think.mrsxllifts said:
Superficial said:
The vets will rip you off. Fact.
Various worming treatments can be bought elsewhere nowadays, the internet, pet stores and normal pharmacies to name but a few.
We found the opposite. Had to get an emergency supply of Drontal XL from Countrywide store and it was £6.30 but when got some on a routine visit to the vets it was £2.70 and they offered to administer it for free which saved us hassle and skin!Various worming treatments can be bought elsewhere nowadays, the internet, pet stores and normal pharmacies to name but a few.
Not sure if its cheaper online but for a decent wormer (not Bob Martin s
t) you should need a vets prescription I think.t?!oooooooooooooooa said:
I understand this to be the case, but have no idea about which treatment is any good. Amazon reviews suggest Drontal, but i thought i'd check here first!
My mistake, we use Drontal, as someone else said the Bob Martin likes are rubbish.mrsxllifts said:
We found the opposite. Had to get an emergency supply of Drontal XL from Countrywide store and it was £6.30 but when got some on a routine visit to the vets it was £2.70 and they offered to administer it for free which saved us hassle and skin!
Not sure if its cheaper online but for a decent wormer (not Bob Martin st) you should need a vets prescription I think.
I'm envious! Everything from our vet seems to be marked up at twice the cost you can get it for elsewhere, administering doesn't bother me as I have an animal based qualification but shopping around to avoid being ripped off gets tiresome.Not sure if its cheaper online but for a decent wormer (not Bob Martin s
t) you should need a vets prescription I think.You can buy online etc with a prescription provided by your vet, but for things like frontline, wormer (the same things the vet supplies) just a quick talk with the dispenser suffices.
m0ssy said:
These days I purchase the stuff from the vet that goes on the back of the neck, a bit more expensive but worth it to not cause them stress and to save the skin on my hands and arms!
Is it the 'Profender' stuff? Is it any good, heard a few mixed reports about it, most of the bad ones saying it doesn't last long especially in hunters who's worms were back with a week.Superficial said:
The vets will rip you off. Fact.
Various worming treatments can be bought elsewhere nowadays, the internet, pet stores and normal pharmacies to name but a few.
How nice, we won't rip you off far more of a fact than your comment, we will provide sensible advice and back up if needed, we have to run our surgeries to a standard that internet stores don't, and this costs money. Various worming treatments can be bought elsewhere nowadays, the internet, pet stores and normal pharmacies to name but a few.
OP you can use tablets if you want but they can be difficult to give, also, different cats have different needs wrt worming, if your cat hunts, it will need treating up to 4 x a year with a tapeworm product, such as drontal or droncit spot-on. More routine roundworms can be treated with either tablets such as milbemax, drontal or spot-on products such as advocate. More specific advice could be got from your own vet who should know a bit more about your pets, and you don't have to buy from them.
HTH
mrsxllifts said:
Is it the 'Profender' stuff? Is it any good, heard a few mixed reports about it, most of the bad ones saying it doesn't last long especially in hunters who's worms were back with a week.
None of the worm products such as profender droncit spot-on or advocate have any residual effect, so your cat can pick up new worms a day or two after being "cleaned out". If you see worms as quick as you say, then your cat must be a serial hunter, and may need treating more frequently than others. Thevet said:
Superficial said:
The vets will rip you off. Fact.
Various worming treatments can be bought elsewhere nowadays, the internet, pet stores and normal pharmacies to name but a few.
How nice, we won't rip you off far more of a fact than your comment, we will provide sensible advice and back up if needed, we have to run our surgeries to a standard that internet stores don't, and this costs money. Various worming treatments can be bought elsewhere nowadays, the internet, pet stores and normal pharmacies to name but a few.
OP you can use tablets if you want but they can be difficult to give, also, different cats have different needs wrt worming, if your cat hunts, it will need treating up to 4 x a year with a tapeworm product, such as drontal or droncit spot-on. More routine roundworms can be treated with either tablets such as milbemax, drontal or spot-on products such as advocate. More specific advice could be got from your own vet who should know a bit more about your pets, and you don't have to buy from them.
HTH
Does it ever occur to those who accuse us of being rip off merchants that we cannot actually buy the products in from our wholesaler for the price that internet shops sell the same products. I suppose we should actually sell at a loss, that'd be good business sense.
Occ some prolific hunters need worming every 6 weeks. Drontal wormers are sufficent but you need to know what your cats weight is, under dosing is pointless. Milbemax is a better wormer.
Thankyou for the responses. I have a lot of respect for our local vets, and understand that your services have to be paid for (fortunately we've had rescue cats with lots of ailments so are good customers in that respect!).
We have two cats, one elderly and a hunter, one young but who is a (fat!) house cat. In light of this and the advice above regarding fakes it's probably best just to call in the vet next week, in the grand scheme of things the cost isn't too painful.
We have two cats, one elderly and a hunter, one young but who is a (fat!) house cat. In light of this and the advice above regarding fakes it's probably best just to call in the vet next week, in the grand scheme of things the cost isn't too painful.
you're a star, hope your vets appreciate you.
+1Thevet said:
How nice, we won't rip you off far more of a fact than your comment, we will provide sensible advice and back up if needed, we have to run our surgeries to a standard that internet stores don't, and this costs money.
OP you can use tablets if you want but they can be difficult to give, also, different cats have different needs wrt worming, if your cat hunts, it will need treating up to 4 x a year with a tapeworm product, such as drontal or droncit spot-on. More routine roundworms can be treated with either tablets such as milbemax, drontal or spot-on products such as advocate. More specific advice could be got from your own vet who should know a bit more about your pets, and you don't have to buy from them.
HTH
Hmm, I wonder how many people need the 'sensible advice and back up if needed' beyond the first time they worm their pets. Personally, I got the message the first time and touchwood so far I have yet to need back up over the lifetime of owning 8 dogs, 5 cats and 4 rabbits all of whom are wormed regularly. For this reason I buy from places other than my vets, I don't enjoy being charged for a service I never use.OP you can use tablets if you want but they can be difficult to give, also, different cats have different needs wrt worming, if your cat hunts, it will need treating up to 4 x a year with a tapeworm product, such as drontal or droncit spot-on. More routine roundworms can be treated with either tablets such as milbemax, drontal or spot-on products such as advocate. More specific advice could be got from your own vet who should know a bit more about your pets, and you don't have to buy from them.
HTH
bexVN said:
Plus There are fakes on the internet.
Does it ever occur to those who accuse us of being rip off merchants that we cannot actually buy the products in from our wholesaler for the price that internet shops sell the same products. I suppose we should actually sell at a loss, that'd be good business sense.
Occ some prolific hunters need worming every 6 weeks. Drontal wormers are sufficent but you need to know what your cats weight is, under dosing is pointless. Milbemax is a better wormer.
Does it occur to yourself that most people have enough common sense to sniff (pardon the pun) out a rip off merchant? It's not rocket science to work out it's better to buy from a recognised company rather than a suspiciously cheap website. Does it ever occur to those who accuse us of being rip off merchants that we cannot actually buy the products in from our wholesaler for the price that internet shops sell the same products. I suppose we should actually sell at a loss, that'd be good business sense.
Occ some prolific hunters need worming every 6 weeks. Drontal wormers are sufficent but you need to know what your cats weight is, under dosing is pointless. Milbemax is a better wormer.
I don't see why vets wouldn't be able to buy products for the same mark up as anywhere else, as far as I know a vets premium doesn't exist. If you fail to shop around to secure a better price that's not the fault of the consumer who chooses to buy elsewhere rather than pay though the nose.
Worming protocols change, worming treatments update, it is now recognised that Lungworm is becoming more of a problem than even 5 years ago, as a result worming treatments for dogs has changed to provide appropriate protection if owners wish to.
We educate and inform we keep up with the changes this is our responsibility to our clients to try and provide the best.
We will apply treatments, give treatments, weigh animals regularly etc at no charge except for the cost of the product.
If people do not want to pay our prices they don't have to however we will still provide the info at no cost and advise them of the next best thing that they can purchase from elsewhere (anything to avoid peope buying BOb Martins crap, now that is a waste of money)
Your contempt of what service we do provide disappoints me but sadly I am learning to try and accept that no matter how dedicated we try to be as a profession we will always seem to fail some.
We can get small deals but we can't buy in the bulk that on line sites can buy for and as a reult get massive discounts.
We educate and inform we keep up with the changes this is our responsibility to our clients to try and provide the best.
We will apply treatments, give treatments, weigh animals regularly etc at no charge except for the cost of the product.
If people do not want to pay our prices they don't have to however we will still provide the info at no cost and advise them of the next best thing that they can purchase from elsewhere (anything to avoid peope buying BOb Martins crap, now that is a waste of money)
Your contempt of what service we do provide disappoints me but sadly I am learning to try and accept that no matter how dedicated we try to be as a profession we will always seem to fail some.
We can get small deals but we can't buy in the bulk that on line sites can buy for and as a reult get massive discounts.
I would always prefer to give my cats the stuff my Vet sells.
I pay my Vet £10 per month per cat, which covers all Nurse visits, gives me discounts on operations/procedures/drugs & pays for their injections, workers & anti-flea etc drops.
I probably could get it all cheaper from online - but then I don't have the benefit of an animal based qualification 
I pay my Vet £10 per month per cat, which covers all Nurse visits, gives me discounts on operations/procedures/drugs & pays for their injections, workers & anti-flea etc drops.
I probably could get it all cheaper from online - but then I don't have the benefit of an animal based qualification It's kinda sad that I, as a "vet", will get slagged for charging more for a product than someone anonymous over the net, but if I charge anywhere near the rate that lawyers, architects or doctors charge, then i am a robbing bd. Maybe those that criticise would like to come and try to run such a business, cos I would bet all my life's savings that after a few month's you would give up and accept a loss of amazing significance. I don't really begrudge people buying their pet's medication on-line, but I get fed up when we get slagged off for subsidising treatment with sales of other products. We try very hard to provide a service 24/7, my clients can get hold of me at any time, and i will try to answer their problems whenever. So, for those who hate paying for a professional service, then go to Halfords for your pre-race scrutineering, and you will get what you paid for, I'm sure your pets will be happy.
d. Maybe those that criticise would like to come and try to run such a business, cos I would bet all my life's savings that after a few month's you would give up and accept a loss of amazing significance. I don't really begrudge people buying their pet's medication on-line, but I get fed up when we get slagged off for subsidising treatment with sales of other products. We try very hard to provide a service 24/7, my clients can get hold of me at any time, and i will try to answer their problems whenever. So, for those who hate paying for a professional service, then go to Halfords for your pre-race scrutineering, and you will get what you paid for, I'm sure your pets will be happy. Gassing Station | All Creatures Great & Small | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff