Split chassis dragsters?
Split chassis dragsters?
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37chevy

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3,280 posts

172 months

Wednesday 4th April 2012
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Hey

Was watching an old Santa pod DVD today, which got me thinking. The stardust super pro et dragster was on there...it was 2007 I think, if I remember rightly, didn't the car come in 2 parts to the track...ienthe chassis was split in 2 and then put together at the track?

..I was just wondering who made the chassis...is it just a special feature that particular car had or have others done it? If not why don't more do it? Does it have disadvantages?.....just always seemed like a very clever way of fitting a long car into a standard size garage to me!

Edited by 37chevy on Wednesday 4th April 00:43

MotorPsycho

1,126 posts

227 months

Wednesday 4th April 2012
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Theres a number of two piece dragsters in the UK. Zane Llewellyn, both of Martyn Jones & Crunch's last two cars, Pete Walters off the top of my head.

Only down side I can see could be having a rigid section where the join is where a one piece chassis would have constant flex throughout the length, that said it doesn't seem to cause any of the above problems and makes transport/storage a lot easier.

firewalker

366 posts

197 months

Wednesday 4th April 2012
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I think the Flavell team hada two piece rail?

37chevy

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3,280 posts

172 months

Wednesday 4th April 2012
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Wow I honestly didn't realise there was that many!! Great news really because I've always wanted a rail but haven't got the space! Who manufacturers those chassis in the uk? Or are they all home built?

Flying Toilet

3,621 posts

227 months

Wednesday 4th April 2012
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I believe Steve Johnsons is also 2 piece too.

Most of them has been converted at a later date apart from Zane's whose was built like that from scratch.

MotorPsycho

1,126 posts

227 months

Wednesday 4th April 2012
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Flying Toilet said:
I believe Steve Johnsons is also 2 piece too.

Most of them has been converted at a later date apart from Zane's whose was built like that from scratch.
Ah yea, Steve's is too. Pete's was built as a two piece as was Syd's new car. By Rich Walters and Kev Cerusale respectively

*KT

603 posts

227 months

Wednesday 4th April 2012
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firewalker said:
I think the Flavell team hada two piece rail?
Yes, which is now the Black Magic rail owned by Steve Taylor smile

37chevy

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3,280 posts

172 months

Wednesday 4th April 2012
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Cool thx for that, yeh Petes car is a lovely piece of kit, his dad did a great job of it!

Just out of interest, how come there are less dragsters and altereds racing in the uk than doorslammers? They make more sense to me as they're lighter but don't know if they're more expensive to race or it's just a personal
Choice thing?

MotorPsycho

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227 months

Wednesday 4th April 2012
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Think its just a personal choice really. A lot of people will have a favourite full bodied car they want to race, altereds are an aquired taste tongue out

37chevy

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3,280 posts

172 months

Wednesday 4th April 2012
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....you mean altereds are for people WITH taste!!

Have to admit the three cars I'd want in my stable would be a rail, a topo/ford coupe or bantham altered and a 63 corvette

MartynJones

45 posts

161 months

Wednesday 4th April 2012
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In fact, both my old car and Steve Johnson's were already 2 piece chassis. Both cars split behind the roll cage so you could adjust the pre-load on the rear end. Mine has(had?) turnbuckles in the top rail and pivots in the bottom rail, and Steve's has plates with multiple positions.

So, after Steve split his, and Kev Cerusale split mine, they were both 3 piece chassis. Obviously a lot easier to take them apart where there were no brake lines or control cables.

My old car is now Laura Turbuville's car..

My new car was purpose built to split (it's longer than my truck...).

And I have crash tested the design so I know it's safe :-) Also easier to replace the whole front end after the wall redesigned it.

37chevy

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3,280 posts

172 months

Wednesday 4th April 2012
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Thanks for that martin! Just out of interest how does it split/fit back together again? Do the tubes on the front section slide inside the rear section and bolt in or by other means??

It's fixable...

470 posts

221 months

Wednesday 4th April 2012
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There was a really good piece by Zane about his split chassis on the Bootsoop website which I was going to post a link to, but the site is now inactive.

From what I recall the joints used multi-layer finger plates from Mark Williams. The chassis split in front of the drivers safety cell.

firewalker

366 posts

197 months

Thursday 5th April 2012
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*KT said:
Yes, which is now the Black Magic rail owned by Steve Taylor smile
Flavell are a welding operation so I'm guessing they came up with the build themselves.

Flying Toilet

3,621 posts

227 months

Thursday 5th April 2012
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firewalker said:
Flavell are a welding operation so I'm guessing they came up with the build themselves.
The modifications yes, the original chassis was Miller top fuel car from the States and then previous owners...

peterwalters

230 posts

227 months

Tuesday 10th April 2012
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We built ours from scratch, built the chassis first and then cut it in half (scary times!)

Makes it so much easier for storage and transport



Never had a problem with it, 4 clasps/bolts and then the two cross braces bolt in.

Our next car will most probably be two peice aswell, dont think its been done to this type of car wink

It's fixable...

470 posts

221 months

Tuesday 10th April 2012
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Very informative picture Richard - but it gets very pixelated when you zoom in for detail, do you have something higher resolution (assuming of course that you're happy to share your design)...

37chevy

Original Poster:

3,280 posts

172 months

Tuesday 10th April 2012
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peterwalters said:
We built ours from scratch, built the chassis first and then cut it in half (scary times!)

Makes it so much easier for storage and transport



Never had a problem with it, 4 clasps/bolts and then the two cross braces bolt in.

Our next car will most probably be two peice aswell, dont think its been done to this type of car wink
You're a star!!! Thanks for the info....lol now all I need to do is save some pennies lol....might take a few years haha!.... Start off with a street strip car I think!

MartynJones

45 posts

161 months

Wednesday 11th April 2012
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Ours is fairly simple. Each frame connector is machined out of a piece of bar the same diameter as the tube.

The connectors are split vertically over about 3 inches where they join. 50% of width of the bar is on one tube, and the mirror half is on the other tube.
A rebate is machined on the frame side of the connectors and they are inserted into the frame tube and rosette welded. A single bolt
then clamps the 2 halves of the connector together.

The steering column has to be split too. A flange was welded on either end and they simply bolt together.

So, 6 bolts and it's apart.

Held up well when I hit the wall hard enough to destroy both front wheels, and the wing, and to add an 8 inch offset to the front end.


Tet

1,196 posts

220 months

Wednesday 11th April 2012
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MartynJones said:
Held up well when I hit the wall hard enough to destroy both front wheels, and the wing, and to add an 8 inch offset to the front end.
Yep. Glad to see last weekend went much better, though. Congrats on the 6.2. That 5 isn't looking so far away...