1968-1974 Porsche- What would you go for?
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Hi folks,
I'm new on here and was wondering if you were to buy a classic Porky from 1968-1974 that is pretty cheap to come buy and wouldn't require too much money put into it, what would you recommend?
My daily drive is a BMW 325 ci, but have always longed for something a bit more mostalgic!!! I'm thinking Robert Redford in Spy game here!!!
Would love to hear you're ideas/ thoughts?
Thanks,
Frank the Tank
I'm new on here and was wondering if you were to buy a classic Porky from 1968-1974 that is pretty cheap to come buy and wouldn't require too much money put into it, what would you recommend?
My daily drive is a BMW 325 ci, but have always longed for something a bit more mostalgic!!! I'm thinking Robert Redford in Spy game here!!!
Would love to hear you're ideas/ thoughts?
Thanks,
Frank the Tank
I've got a 2.0 E from 1969 and its great fun. Not a modern drive, but that's why you buy it. My only car, which in winter is sometimes a little taxing as it is leaking water at the moment and my demisting fan doesn't work (cue driving with the window open in the freezing cold at high speed on the motorway...). You certainly realise where 35 years of development has gone - wind noise reduction, better brakes, less tiring for long distances etc.
However, 35 years hasn't improved the for fun - nudging the back out on wet city streets as there is relatively little grip, accelarating flat out under every bridge to hear the exhaust, and hanging on for dear life as you corner too quickly...
I bought mine on a complete whim last year (had been looking for a 964, but the car I came across was just so pretty I had to buy it). If I was looking again now for the money I would do exactly the same. But if I could stretch my budget to £12k I would probably look for more power - a 2.2/2.4 E or S or something with a modified engine. But then that's always the case - as soon as you are used to the power you have, you want more... The 2.0 is fast enough - I've had 120 plus a few times and then backed off when you remember there are no proper seatbelts and very little grip, but all day at 100 is not a problem. Went down to France in mine last summer and did 3,000 miles around the alps in 2 weeks - was never overtaken excpet on the autoroute, so it is quick enough to have lots of fun...
Cheap insurance (£180 in Brixton fully comp with a 29 year old driver), and no road tax just adds to experience. And it looks good enough to turn more heads than my bosses 360 Spider without attracting any untoward attention when parked in dodgy areas of London...
Pretty much perfect...
However, 35 years hasn't improved the for fun - nudging the back out on wet city streets as there is relatively little grip, accelarating flat out under every bridge to hear the exhaust, and hanging on for dear life as you corner too quickly...
I bought mine on a complete whim last year (had been looking for a 964, but the car I came across was just so pretty I had to buy it). If I was looking again now for the money I would do exactly the same. But if I could stretch my budget to £12k I would probably look for more power - a 2.2/2.4 E or S or something with a modified engine. But then that's always the case - as soon as you are used to the power you have, you want more... The 2.0 is fast enough - I've had 120 plus a few times and then backed off when you remember there are no proper seatbelts and very little grip, but all day at 100 is not a problem. Went down to France in mine last summer and did 3,000 miles around the alps in 2 weeks - was never overtaken excpet on the autoroute, so it is quick enough to have lots of fun...
Cheap insurance (£180 in Brixton fully comp with a 29 year old driver), and no road tax just adds to experience. And it looks good enough to turn more heads than my bosses 360 Spider without attracting any untoward attention when parked in dodgy areas of London...
Pretty much perfect...
If you have set 1974 as your cut off year to avoid an impact bumper car then this probably won't be what you want - I'd recommend a 1974 2.7 Carrera - basically an impact bumper form of the immortal 2.7 RS.
If you want an impact bumper model then clearly the later the better with a 2.4S being the best of the bunch (unless you have the funds for a 2.7RS). The 2.4E is in some ways a better cruising car - more torque produced lower down the rev range than the more highly strung S.
If you want an impact bumper model then clearly the later the better with a 2.4S being the best of the bunch (unless you have the funds for a 2.7RS). The 2.4E is in some ways a better cruising car - more torque produced lower down the rev range than the more highly strung S.
We've discussed this many times on here, go to search function & type in things like early 911, pre impact, etc etc & a huge number of useful threads will come up.
It all depends what you want, personally in pre impact cars (ignoring the rather exceptionally excellent but exceptionally pricy RS) the 2.2s & the 2.4s are the pick of the bunch- a 2.2S or 2.4 S revving its heart out is a wonderful noise. Ignore rubystones liking of an E he is an old git & his gaylord spec US cabrio has muddled his brain
ha ha, no they are not that bad at all, just a good S is something a bit special.
Neither S in top nic & RHD is what id call cheap tho, but perhaps the interpretation of that depends on your budget.
However altho the bare metal respray idea as mentioned above is a triffle OTT, (properly restored & waxoiled every winter 20+ yrs is more like it) an early car can cos an absolute serious fortune to 'properly' restore once the tin worm has gotton hold and that cost is no cheaper if its a cheap T or an £110K+ RS lightweight.
Because of that & for a more modern chassis & running gear but with early car looks is- for many, the way to go.
Lots of Rs replicas are about, but also a smaller number of S replicas etc. If you uses a decent non rusty car as a base say an SC or pref a 3.2, you only need to spend a couple of £K to turn it into a convincing pre impact car with later under pinnings.
As ruby says the 2.7 Carerra is a top car, 95% RS but with impact bumper clothes. Quite a few very good RS replicas are based on them, very close to the real thing for a fraction of the cost, only grief is they rot just like the real thing & worth a fraction of that price so most have rotted away & lots of howlers out there.
It all depends what you want, personally in pre impact cars (ignoring the rather exceptionally excellent but exceptionally pricy RS) the 2.2s & the 2.4s are the pick of the bunch- a 2.2S or 2.4 S revving its heart out is a wonderful noise. Ignore rubystones liking of an E he is an old git & his gaylord spec US cabrio has muddled his brain
ha ha, no they are not that bad at all, just a good S is something a bit special. Neither S in top nic & RHD is what id call cheap tho, but perhaps the interpretation of that depends on your budget.
However altho the bare metal respray idea as mentioned above is a triffle OTT, (properly restored & waxoiled every winter 20+ yrs is more like it) an early car can cos an absolute serious fortune to 'properly' restore once the tin worm has gotton hold and that cost is no cheaper if its a cheap T or an £110K+ RS lightweight.
Because of that & for a more modern chassis & running gear but with early car looks is- for many, the way to go.
Lots of Rs replicas are about, but also a smaller number of S replicas etc. If you uses a decent non rusty car as a base say an SC or pref a 3.2, you only need to spend a couple of £K to turn it into a convincing pre impact car with later under pinnings.
As ruby says the 2.7 Carerra is a top car, 95% RS but with impact bumper clothes. Quite a few very good RS replicas are based on them, very close to the real thing for a fraction of the cost, only grief is they rot just like the real thing & worth a fraction of that price so most have rotted away & lots of howlers out there.
I maintain that the E is a sweet car Iguana - especially when you uprate the cams a bit....
NEway - the beauty of the impact 2.7 Carrera is that you may find one that someone spent bundles on restoring in the belief that it would follow the RS up into the stratosphere price-wise.
As to this 5 year respray bit - I know someone who's had his 2.7 for yonks - uses it fairly regularly and has had no rust issues - he just keeps it clean underneath and avoids the salt as much as possible.
NEway - the beauty of the impact 2.7 Carrera is that you may find one that someone spent bundles on restoring in the belief that it would follow the RS up into the stratosphere price-wise.
As to this 5 year respray bit - I know someone who's had his 2.7 for yonks - uses it fairly regularly and has had no rust issues - he just keeps it clean underneath and avoids the salt as much as possible.
rubystone said:
I maintain that the E is a sweet car Iguana - especially when you uprate the cams a bit....
ahh good one, gue you mean 2.4 rather than 2.2, on the 2.4s there are a couple of differences with engine specs) but prob not far off an S power wise if you do that & sort fueling out properly then either, (tho the E was lower compression than the S) did yours have S cams or somat else? certainly an E will be way cheaper than an S anyway.
Ahh just saw matey needs an early car for tax reasons, so the later car replica stuff is pretty much out the window, unless you buy the shell of a rust heap early car with reg docs for pennies & then put that vin on a later car.
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