Running floor screed across the cavity at a door threshold?

Running floor screed across the cavity at a door threshold?

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richard at home

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320 posts

119 months

Wednesday 27th April 2016
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I'm just about to get the insulation down, prior to getting a liquid screed floor poured.

The wall cavity is exposed where the door thresholds are, so I assume I can lay the insulation across the cavity and screed over, right up to the door, or should I loose fill the cavity to support the foam board where it crosses the cavity?

The insulation is going to be 190mm thick and it will be 80mm where it goes over the cavity. I would only be supported on the inner leaf of the wall.

The insulation is this thick to bring the floor level up to make the finished floor level with the thresholds so there's nothing to trip over.

Sketch shows proposed arrangement. There's a membrane that comes up from under the slab and stops in the cavity. The DPC is directly under the door threshold.


barryrs

4,398 posts

224 months

Wednesday 27th April 2016
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Normally the cavity would be filled with weak mix concrete to a level that's around 225mm below DPC so your insulation should sit on top of that.

Heres a standard construction detail.


richard at home

Original Poster:

320 posts

119 months

Wednesday 27th April 2016
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barryrs said:
Normally the cavity would be filled with weak mix concrete to a level that's around 225mm below DPC so your insulation should sit on top of that.

Heres a standard construction detail.

Thanks Barry, I thought so.

My footing comes up quite high, it's 400mm below the DPC, so the weak mix would come up to within 100mm of the DPC, if it's high enough to support the insulation.



richard at home

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320 posts

119 months

Wednesday 27th April 2016
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As I'm having liquid screed over underfloor heating, do I need to run 25mm celotex around the perimeter before I run the expansion foam round? Or is the expansion foam sufficient to prevent heat conducting out to the inside wall?

wolfracesonic

7,060 posts

128 months

Wednesday 27th April 2016
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I think I saw the solution to your problem recently, possibly in Professional Builder magazine, but I'm buggered if I can recall the name! It was similar in principal to the cavity closers you get around window reveals but stronger to support the screed where it cantilevers over the cavity. Not much use I knowfrown

Spudler

3,985 posts

197 months

Wednesday 27th April 2016
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Shouldn't be a cavity at door openings in the first place!

michael010389

239 posts

176 months

Monday 9th January 2017
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Hi I know this is old. I'm doing similar and a cavity closer would be impractical. Will filling the cavity not cause damp or is it so long as don is above the full then it would be fine. The reason I ask is some construction details show a hollow void with insulation and a closer.

I have no insulation in my floor so don't want to cause cold bridging as it will be one slab right up to the outer brick apart from a small strip of rigid insulation under the sill.



Edited by michael010389 on Monday 9th January 21:44