Aquaplaned

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Jools1902

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36 posts

101 months

Friday 4th August 2017
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Hi. I aquaplaned in my navara two weeks ago and ended up in a head on collision. I was coming off a roundabout into the first exit. Road was wet but no standing water even though a few days rain beforehand. I was doing no more than 30mph and the back just flipped out. I steered into the skid, but unfortunately the tyres suddenly found traction and catapulted me into traffic.
I need to get a new car, really want a navara again or an l200 animal, but am so scared of it happening again. I had my 9 year old in the front with me.
I am a tradesman and need a aanavara or l200 for separating work and kids
What did i do wrong?
What can I do ensure it doesn't happen again?
Should I try 4wd in the wet?
sorry if I sound stupid, just need to sort a new vehicle asap but still really freaked out by what happened

SantaBarbara

3,244 posts

123 months

Friday 4th August 2017
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How much tread depth on your tyres

Sheepshanks

37,306 posts

134 months

Friday 4th August 2017
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SantaBarbara said:
How much tread depth on your tyres
..and if the tyres weren't evenly worn, which end of the vehicle had the best tyres?

SantaBarbara

3,244 posts

123 months

Friday 4th August 2017
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Were you heavily braking at the Same time?

Jools1902

Original Poster:

36 posts

101 months

Friday 4th August 2017
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All tyres really good. Chunky tyres though (AT I think) is it the tyres that were on the car that is the problem. They seemed very big in terms of tread.

kiethton

14,252 posts

195 months

Friday 4th August 2017
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I would suggest maybe getting the best truck for your needs and then maybe a morning/afternoon of driver training to give you some pointers and help you to get some confidence back.

If your based up north I can highly recommend Reg Local, else maybe look into one of the HPC instructors if further south.

Jools1902

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36 posts

101 months

Friday 4th August 2017
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[quote=SantaBarbara]Were you heavily braking at the Same time

No I was accelerating away from the roundabout exit. Maybe 10 metres into my new road when car went

SAS Tom

3,672 posts

189 months

Friday 4th August 2017
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As is usually the case, slow down. Cars don't suddenly lose grip like that without some form of provocation.

SantaBarbara

3,244 posts

123 months

Friday 4th August 2017
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There could have been a spillage of oil or petrol on the road surface possibly?

justinio

1,180 posts

103 months

Friday 4th August 2017
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Did you have any weight in the bed at the time?

HustleRussell

25,627 posts

175 months

Friday 4th August 2017
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Jools1902 said:
Hi. I aquaplaned in my navara two weeks ago and ended up in a head on collision. I was coming off a roundabout into the first exit. Road was wet but no standing water even though a few days rain beforehand. I was doing no more than 30mph and the back just flipped out. I steered into the skid, but unfortunately the tyres suddenly found traction and catapulted me into traffic.
I need to get a new car, really want a navara again or an l200 animal, but am so scared of it happening again. I had my 9 year old in the front with me.
I am a tradesman and need a aanavara or l200 for separating work and kids
What did i do wrong?
What can I do ensure it doesn't happen again?
Should I try 4wd in the wet?
sorry if I sound stupid, just need to sort a new vehicle asap but still really freaked out by what happened
If there was no standing water, you did not aquaplane.
If you were doing no more than 30mph, you did not aquaplane.
'the back just flipped out', 'unfortunately the tyres...' Don't blame the vehicle or parts of the vehicle, accept that this is a simple instance of excessive speed, steering, braking, throttle or combination thereof for that particular vehicle in that particular condition on that day.
4WD will only give you more traction, not more grip (all else being equal)
Pickup trucks are not the last word in road holding, traction or handling. There is very little weight over the rear axle when unladen which can contribute to a general tendency to lose grip, particularly at the back axle and particularly in slippery conditions.
Learn from this situation and become a better driver and you will be safer in whatever vehicle you and your family happen to be in.

Jools1902

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36 posts

101 months

Friday 4th August 2017
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SAS Tom said:
As is usually the case, slow down. Cars don't suddenly lose grip like that without some form of provocation.
I honestly was just coming off of a roundabout. I had stopped to let a car from my right enter my exit first so I had only travelled 10-15 metre s before I flipped out out

Strudul

1,599 posts

100 months

Friday 4th August 2017
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HustleRussell said:
If there was no standing water, you did not aquaplane.
If you were doing no more than 30mph, you did not aquaplane.
'the back just flipped out', 'unfortunately the tyres...' Don't blame the vehicle or parts of the vehicle, accept that this is a simple instance of excessive speed, steering, braking, throttle or combination thereof for that particular vehicle in that particular condition on that day.
4WD will only give you more traction, not more grip (all else being equal)
Pickup trucks are not the last word in road holding, traction or handling. There is very little weight over the rear axle when unladen which can contribute to a general tendency to lose grip, particularly at the back axle and particularly in slippery conditions.
Learn from this situation and become a better driver and you will be safer in whatever vehicle you and your family happen to be in.
How do you know he didn't just hit a patch of oil / diesel??

herewego

8,814 posts

228 months

Friday 4th August 2017
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It has excellent off-road capability. The 4WD is for off road. Do you need an off road pick-up or would a van with road tyres be better suited?

Jools1902

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36 posts

101 months

Friday 4th August 2017
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yes but all evenly distributed and only decorating materials, pots of paint etc

NDA

23,212 posts

240 months

Friday 4th August 2017
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Jools1902 said:
Hi. I aquaplaned in my navara two weeks ago and ended up in a head on collision.
Yikes... hope you're ok...

I aquaplaned in a brand new Jag a couple of years back - I was incredibly lucky as I didn't hit anything.

If you're aquaplaning there is little you can do - although I was told that letting go of the steering wheel is the answer. Apparently the centrifugal force of the wheels will point them straight. Not sure if this works.

Jools1902

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36 posts

101 months

Friday 4th August 2017
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HustleRussell said:
If there was no standing water, you did not aquaplane.
If you were doing no more than 30mph, you did not aquaplane.
'the back just flipped out', 'unfortunately the tyres...' Don't blame the vehicle or parts of the vehicle, accept that this is a simple instance of excessive speed, steering, braking, throttle or combination thereof for that particular vehicle in that particular condition on that day.
4WD will only give you more traction, not more grip (all else being equal)
Pickup trucks are not the last word in road holding, traction or handling. There is very little weight over the rear axle when unladen which can contribute to a general tendency to lose grip, particularly at the back axle and particularly in slippery conditions.
Learn from this situation and become a better driver and you will be safer in whatever vehicle you and your family happen to be in.
Wow. That's harsh. I had my 9 year old in the car I was doing no more than 30 as corroborated by the police.
First ever accident. I'm nearly 50 now! Something happened. Not speed.

Jools1902

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36 posts

101 months

Friday 4th August 2017
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HustleRussell said:
If there was no standing water, you did not aquaplane.
If you were doing no more than 30mph, you did not aquaplane.
'the back just flipped out', 'unfortunately the tyres...' Don't blame the vehicle or parts of the vehicle, accept that this is a simple instance of excessive speed, steering, braking, throttle or combination thereof for that particular vehicle in that particular condition on that day.
4WD will only give you more traction, not more grip (all else being equal)
Pickup trucks are not the last word in road holding, traction or handling. There is very little weight over the rear axle when unladen which can contribute to a general tendency to lose grip, particularly at the back axle and particularly in slippery conditions.
Learn from this situation and become a better driver and you will be safer in whatever vehicle you and your family happen to be in.
Wow. That's harsh. I had my 9 year old in the car I was doing no more than 30 as corroborated by the police.
First ever accident. I'm nearly 50 now! Something happened. Not speed.

Sheepshanks

37,306 posts

134 months

Friday 4th August 2017
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Jools1902 said:
I was doing no more than 30 as corroborated by the police.
Did they have a view on why it happened?

Obviously all anyone on here can do is wildly speculate. I suppose they only thing to be certain of is 30MPH was obviously too fast, even if seemed reasonable.

Jools1902

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36 posts

101 months

Friday 4th August 2017
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herewego said:
It has excellent off-road capability. The 4WD is for off road. Do you need an off road pick-up or would a van with road tyres be better suited?
Well. Being in the building trade, I need a vehicle that separates family from work as I have young children