Storing petrol lawnmower over winter - drain petrol?

Storing petrol lawnmower over winter - drain petrol?

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g3org3y

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21,530 posts

206 months

Thursday 14th December 2017
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As above. I don't envisage any further grass cutting activity until the spring.

I've read conflicting reports - what do you guys reckon, to drain or not to drain?

I think there are additives that can be added to the petrol for winter storage. Seems an easier solution.

TIA smile

steveo3002

10,837 posts

189 months

Thursday 14th December 2017
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never drain ours and it starts fine next year

K50 DEL

9,517 posts

243 months

Thursday 14th December 2017
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Same here... never drained my mower in 8 years of owning it, always starts just fine the next spring.

Convert

3,756 posts

233 months

Thursday 14th December 2017
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Had the current mower 17 years, stored in a shed outside in winter, never drained the fuel, always started OK for the next season.

Other than the one time when the tank to carb pipe perished and it drained itself.

anonymous-user

69 months

Thursday 14th December 2017
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As above be for me too. Leave it alone OP smile

C0ffin D0dger

3,440 posts

160 months

Thursday 14th December 2017
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I used to put some additive they sold in the DIY sheds into the fuel that was supposed to stop it gumming up but stopped using it several years ago. Still starts no problem come the springtime. Should probably change the oil on it one day!

beko1987

1,691 posts

149 months

Thursday 14th December 2017
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I've never drained mine, although the last time I used it I put just enough of a slosh in for the final cut, and it stuttered to a halt just as I finished, so technically drained. I then tipped the half a can of petrol into SWMBO's car so that didn't sit out all winter, will get some fresh next year

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

141 months

Thursday 14th December 2017
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steveo3002 said:
never drain ours and it starts fine next year
Another vote here. The mower doesn't get drained, the strimmer doesn't get drained, the hedge trimmer doesn't get drained, the chainsaw doesn't get drained, the cars in the garage don't get drained...

The only problem I've had is that Stihl seem to use stty material for the fuel pump diaphragms in their strimmers - they were an annual change until I just got bored and put a tenner-off-ebay carb on instead.

Sammo123

2,143 posts

196 months

Thursday 14th December 2017
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My mower lives under an old BBQ tarp all year and doesn't get drained at any point. In the last 5 years it has stated within 3 pulls every time.

g3org3y

Original Poster:

21,530 posts

206 months

Thursday 14th December 2017
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Thanks chaps. smile

Found some of this in the shed. Chucked 10ml in the tank for good measure.

Spent the rest of the time raking leaves. Hopefully that's all of them done now.

Lanby

1,106 posts

229 months

Saturday 16th December 2017
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You know you're supposed to run it through the system, not just pour it in the tank?

g3org3y

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21,530 posts

206 months

Saturday 16th December 2017
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Lanby said:
You know you're supposed to run it through the system, not just pour it in the tank?
Instructions suggest running mower for 5 mins " to ensure the full fuel system contains the treated fuel."

That's what I did.

mikeiow

7,097 posts

145 months

Saturday 16th December 2017
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I've generally left whatever is in it, but petrol does go off, so adding a bit of fresh next season I suspects helps.....although so does a small squirk into the cylinder, I find!
Although I think I may have trouble next spring....did a 'final cut' a couple of weeks back....towards the end it suddenly ran really smoothly, then as I was walking it back to the shed (still running), two black clouds of smoke puffed out & it died.....
Hints & tips to a fairly clueless gardner welcomed....I suspect SomethingBad(tm) happened.....

jeff m2

2,060 posts

166 months

Sunday 17th December 2017
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mikeiow said:
I've generally left whatever is in it, but petrol does go off, so adding a bit of fresh next season I suspects helps.....although so does a small squirk into the cylinder, I find!
Although I think I may have trouble next spring....did a 'final cut' a couple of weeks back....towards the end it suddenly ran really smoothly, then as I was walking it back to the shed (still running), two black clouds of smoke puffed out & it died.....
Hints & tips to a fairly clueless gardner welcomed....I suspect SomethingBad(tm) happened.....
Probably just a broken cranksmile

Sounds like it just ran out of fuel, not a problem.

Generally petrol has a useful life of three Months before it starts to go gooey.
Fuel stabiliser is pretty cheap, I add it to the can which I think will be my last purchase. Stabiliser works best when added to new fuel.
For anyone that stores Summer cars over winter it is almost essential.
Same for Snowblowers...one year old stuff really doesn't work well.
And no stabiliser in a house generator would be quite silly.

Denis O

2,141 posts

258 months

Sunday 17th December 2017
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Mower engines are the most abused engines in the world.

Never drain petrol.

Never change oil.

Never clean air filter.

Absolutely no preventative maintenance whatsoever and they go on and on ad infinitum.

Best engines in the world. None of this namby pamby JLR V8 crap. How long would 1 of those last with the abuse a mower engine gets.

If Carling made mower engines they'd be called Briggs & Stratton.

Speed 3

5,059 posts

134 months

Sunday 17th December 2017
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I don’t generally, just make sure I’ve not filled it so I can top up fresh in spring.

TBH I actually enjoy tinkering with the B&S, it’s the closest I get to home mechanics with the complexity/reliability of the modern car. This year it started hunting badly then stalling. A good few YT videos led me to the conclusion it was a fuel problem. Some suggested cleaning the carb and new gaskets but in the end I got a whole new one with consumables for £25, absolute bargain. Trickiest thing was establishing the correct part number for my engine serial. It took a bit of fiddling with the governor springs to get it stable but it started first time. Also did an oil change whilst I was in the mood.

Simple pleasures beer

dickymint

27,120 posts

273 months

Sunday 17th December 2017
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Never bother to empty the mower but I always empty my two stroke stuff.

Elderly

3,612 posts

253 months

Sunday 17th December 2017
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Denis O said:
If Carling made mower engines they'd be called Briggs & Stratton.
/\ This.

I bought my first garden tractor in 1989.
I had it serviced after years' one and two to keep to the terms of the warranty,
but have done nothing to it since except sharpen the blades and change the odd belt.

mikeiow

7,097 posts

145 months

Sunday 17th December 2017
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jeff m2 said:
Probably just a broken cranksmile

Sounds like it just ran out of fuel, not a problem.

Generally petrol has a useful life of three Months before it starts to go gooey.
Fuel stabiliser is pretty cheap, I add it to the can which I think will be my last purchase. Stabiliser works best when added to new fuel.
For anyone that stores Summer cars over winter it is almost essential.
Same for Snowblowers...one year old stuff really doesn't work well.
And no stabiliser in a house generator would be quite silly.
Ah, I did check to see if the fuel had run out: nope, still 1/3rd of a tank frown
I will drain & change the oil when the weather picks up....clean the filter & plug.....beyond that, it's probably that broken crank!!!

jeff m2

2,060 posts

166 months

Monday 18th December 2017
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mikeiow said:
jeff m2 said:
Probably just a broken cranksmile

Sounds like it just ran out of fuel, not a problem.

Generally petrol has a useful life of three Months before it starts to go gooey.
Fuel stabiliser is pretty cheap, I add it to the can which I think will be my last purchase. Stabiliser works best when added to new fuel.
For anyone that stores Summer cars over winter it is almost essential.
Same for Snowblowers...one year old stuff really doesn't work well.
And no stabiliser in a house generator would be quite silly.
Ah, I did check to see if the fuel had run out: nope, still 1/3rd of a tank frown
I will drain & change the oil when the weather picks up....clean the filter & plug.....beyond that, it's probably that broken crank!!!
A guess: It could be a valve sticking
Ignition with the exhaust valve still open would give that symptom. Nothing to worry about, just check oil is not low..
Probably a one off.