Black Circles "Quality Tyres"
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Those that have used Black Circles will see they offer an unnamed quality tyre, which is likely whatever they have an abundance of in the medium quality price point.
Does anyone know what sort of brands they tend to sell through this offering? For perspective an Avon ZV7 is £80, which i would be happy with, but the "quality tyre" is £55, and just wondered what that would likely be.
Does anyone know what sort of brands they tend to sell through this offering? For perspective an Avon ZV7 is £80, which i would be happy with, but the "quality tyre" is £55, and just wondered what that would likely be.
They will be some make you have never heard of.
We got 2, about 6 months ago, for a focus pool car, I think they are branded Aceleration (with one c
) For a 1L diesel Focus that spends most of its life in a car park they are fine... Not sure what they will be like long term or what they would be like on a car with any kind of power.
We got 2, about 6 months ago, for a focus pool car, I think they are branded Aceleration (with one c
) For a 1L diesel Focus that spends most of its life in a car park they are fine... Not sure what they will be like long term or what they would be like on a car with any kind of power.BuzzBravado said:
Those that have used Black Circles will see they offer an unnamed quality tyre, which is likely whatever they have an abundance of in the medium quality price point.
Does anyone know what sort of brands they tend to sell through this offering? For perspective an Avon ZV7 is £80, which i would be happy with, but the "quality tyre" is £55, and just wondered what that would likely be.
They would he the worst of the worst.Does anyone know what sort of brands they tend to sell through this offering? For perspective an Avon ZV7 is £80, which i would be happy with, but the "quality tyre" is £55, and just wondered what that would likely be.
Go with your Avon if you are happy with those.
If you have Costco card check out Michelin deals they had up to £100 off recently.
i used asda tyres and bought the cheapest tyre going for my shed and actually they have been pretty good. Yes a bit skittish in wet but i just drive slower. In comparison to Cross climates there is minimal difference in normal british weather conditions, which i found were pretty s
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t.The term QUALITY differs from person to person and item to item.
if something is quality it conforms to requirements - some would say a Jaguar or a Mercedes is a quality car - some would say a Dacia Sandero is a quality car - it does everything they ask of it.
I have been driving 32 years and owner over 60 cars. If I need to buy new tyre I buy the cheapest possible. I buy all my cars 2nd hand so effectively (as stated on here in many threads) running on part worns.
Ive never ended up in a ditch, never killed anyone nor ever thought these tyres are rubbish, my braking distance is terrible or the sky may fall down.
If I drove a Ferrari or a race car I could see the point - for day to day commuting to work and going to the supermarket or visit family of a weekend driving through 30,40,50,60,70 mph zones - any tyre should be enough to cope.
Que the people coming up saying they always buy the top tyre as they value their lives and their kids lives and you will be glad of a better tyre in the even of an emergency stop blah blah blah. You pay your money to take your chance, and so far my cheap tyres work for me.
if something is quality it conforms to requirements - some would say a Jaguar or a Mercedes is a quality car - some would say a Dacia Sandero is a quality car - it does everything they ask of it.
I have been driving 32 years and owner over 60 cars. If I need to buy new tyre I buy the cheapest possible. I buy all my cars 2nd hand so effectively (as stated on here in many threads) running on part worns.
Ive never ended up in a ditch, never killed anyone nor ever thought these tyres are rubbish, my braking distance is terrible or the sky may fall down.
If I drove a Ferrari or a race car I could see the point - for day to day commuting to work and going to the supermarket or visit family of a weekend driving through 30,40,50,60,70 mph zones - any tyre should be enough to cope.
Que the people coming up saying they always buy the top tyre as they value their lives and their kids lives and you will be glad of a better tyre in the even of an emergency stop blah blah blah. You pay your money to take your chance, and so far my cheap tyres work for me.
swagmeister said:
The term QUALITY differs from person to person and item to item.
if something is quality it conforms to requirements - some would say a Jaguar or a Mercedes is a quality car - some would say a Dacia Sandero is a quality car - it does everything they ask of it.
I have been driving 32 years and owner over 60 cars. If I need to buy new tyre I buy the cheapest possible. I buy all my cars 2nd hand so effectively (as stated on here in many threads) running on part worns.
Ive never ended up in a ditch, never killed anyone nor ever thought these tyres are rubbish, my braking distance is terrible or the sky may fall down.
If I drove a Ferrari or a race car I could see the point - for day to day commuting to work and going to the supermarket or visit family of a weekend driving through 30,40,50,60,70 mph zones - any tyre should be enough to cope.
Que the people coming up saying they always buy the top tyre as they value their lives and their kids lives and you will be glad of a better tyre in the even of an emergency stop blah blah blah. You pay your money to take your chance, and so far my cheap tyres work for me.
Ah yes, the argument that you yourself have never had a problem so it's fine.if something is quality it conforms to requirements - some would say a Jaguar or a Mercedes is a quality car - some would say a Dacia Sandero is a quality car - it does everything they ask of it.
I have been driving 32 years and owner over 60 cars. If I need to buy new tyre I buy the cheapest possible. I buy all my cars 2nd hand so effectively (as stated on here in many threads) running on part worns.
Ive never ended up in a ditch, never killed anyone nor ever thought these tyres are rubbish, my braking distance is terrible or the sky may fall down.
If I drove a Ferrari or a race car I could see the point - for day to day commuting to work and going to the supermarket or visit family of a weekend driving through 30,40,50,60,70 mph zones - any tyre should be enough to cope.
Que the people coming up saying they always buy the top tyre as they value their lives and their kids lives and you will be glad of a better tyre in the even of an emergency stop blah blah blah. You pay your money to take your chance, and so far my cheap tyres work for me.
I don't understand why you'd buy the very cheapest tyres , as a motoring enthusiast (assumedly given you are on this site) surely you want some quality given it's the only thing connecting your car to the road.
Many of us buy the better tyres on the market because we appreciate that we need the grip also the extra feedback you get. Budget tyres always drive horribly, and you can tell almost immediately , especially in the wet, if the tyres are cheap. Given the statistics that often it can be 20-30% longer stopping distances in the wet, that is a quantifiable distance. If it was 5% then I'd say ah well, screw it buy the cheap ones.
You skinflint!
swagmeister said:
The term QUALITY differs from person to person and item to item.
if something is quality it conforms to requirements - some would say a Jaguar or a Mercedes is a quality car - some would say a Dacia Sandero is a quality car - it does everything they ask of it.
I have been driving 32 years and owner over 60 cars. If I need to buy new tyre I buy the cheapest possible. I buy all my cars 2nd hand so effectively (as stated on here in many threads) running on part worns.
Ive never ended up in a ditch, never killed anyone nor ever thought these tyres are rubbish, my braking distance is terrible or the sky may fall down.
If I drove a Ferrari or a race car I could see the point - for day to day commuting to work and going to the supermarket or visit family of a weekend driving through 30,40,50,60,70 mph zones - any tyre should be enough to cope.
Que the people coming up saying they always buy the top tyre as they value their lives and their kids lives and you will be glad of a better tyre in the even of an emergency stop blah blah blah. You pay your money to take your chance, and so far my cheap tyres work for me.
This statement largely depends on driving style. If you drive like my dad does, then yes, cheap budget tyres are fine because he rarely drives and when he does, he drives slowly and never pushes on in his panda 100.if something is quality it conforms to requirements - some would say a Jaguar or a Mercedes is a quality car - some would say a Dacia Sandero is a quality car - it does everything they ask of it.
I have been driving 32 years and owner over 60 cars. If I need to buy new tyre I buy the cheapest possible. I buy all my cars 2nd hand so effectively (as stated on here in many threads) running on part worns.
Ive never ended up in a ditch, never killed anyone nor ever thought these tyres are rubbish, my braking distance is terrible or the sky may fall down.
If I drove a Ferrari or a race car I could see the point - for day to day commuting to work and going to the supermarket or visit family of a weekend driving through 30,40,50,60,70 mph zones - any tyre should be enough to cope.
Que the people coming up saying they always buy the top tyre as they value their lives and their kids lives and you will be glad of a better tyre in the even of an emergency stop blah blah blah. You pay your money to take your chance, and so far my cheap tyres work for me.
Me on the other hand, I often fit the best rubber I can as I'm not my dad and I like to push on often, and know that I'm giving myself the best chance of survival if things go wrong ( sudden braking / heavy rainfall etc.)
I've always found that the most expensive tyres work out the cheapest in the long run.
My old Galaxy had Michelin tyres that lasted 25k on the front, anecdotally other people got half that with cheap ditchfinders.
Often cheap tyres seem fine when new, but once they wear down a bit which they usually do quickly) then they become ditchfinders
The only time cheap tyres make sense is if you know you'll be getting rid of the car before they wear out
My old Galaxy had Michelin tyres that lasted 25k on the front, anecdotally other people got half that with cheap ditchfinders.
Often cheap tyres seem fine when new, but once they wear down a bit which they usually do quickly) then they become ditchfinders
The only time cheap tyres make sense is if you know you'll be getting rid of the car before they wear out
swagmeister said:
The term QUALITY differs from person to person and item to item.
if something is quality it conforms to requirements - some would say a Jaguar or a Mercedes is a quality car - some would say a Dacia Sandero is a quality car - it does everything they ask of it.
I have been driving 32 years and owner over 60 cars. If I need to buy new tyre I buy the cheapest possible. I buy all my cars 2nd hand so effectively (as stated on here in many threads) running on part worns.
Ive never ended up in a ditch, never killed anyone nor ever thought these tyres are rubbish, my braking distance is terrible or the sky may fall down.
If I drove a Ferrari or a race car I could see the point - for day to day commuting to work and going to the supermarket or visit family of a weekend driving through 30,40,50,60,70 mph zones - any tyre should be enough to cope.
Que the people coming up saying they always buy the top tyre as they value their lives and their kids lives and you will be glad of a better tyre in the even of an emergency stop blah blah blah. You pay your money to take your chance, and so far my cheap tyres work for me.
I’d say that any decent driver should be able to tell the difference between a premium tyre and a ditchfinder in certain conditions such as wet braking. I have driven (non) performance cars back to back in such circumstances and the difference is night and day. Add in the fact that the performance differences are demonstrable and measurable under controlled conditions and I have to wonder why you’d choose a safety critical item that just about copes rather than something that does a good job. If you’re on the bones of your arse and it’s either that or nothing then fair enough but if it’s just to be tight then the mind boggles. if something is quality it conforms to requirements - some would say a Jaguar or a Mercedes is a quality car - some would say a Dacia Sandero is a quality car - it does everything they ask of it.
I have been driving 32 years and owner over 60 cars. If I need to buy new tyre I buy the cheapest possible. I buy all my cars 2nd hand so effectively (as stated on here in many threads) running on part worns.
Ive never ended up in a ditch, never killed anyone nor ever thought these tyres are rubbish, my braking distance is terrible or the sky may fall down.
If I drove a Ferrari or a race car I could see the point - for day to day commuting to work and going to the supermarket or visit family of a weekend driving through 30,40,50,60,70 mph zones - any tyre should be enough to cope.
Que the people coming up saying they always buy the top tyre as they value their lives and their kids lives and you will be glad of a better tyre in the even of an emergency stop blah blah blah. You pay your money to take your chance, and so far my cheap tyres work for me.
Quite simply tyre choice comes down to , what car, who drives, how often, how is it driven, what budget?
The answer varies on every input to the above.
Personally I prefer to see budget tyres with tread on cars, rather than quality tyres run til they are bald.
I run 3 vehicles, and all 3 have different useages, and that affects the tyre choice.
Nobody can answer what the right tyre is for anybody else. Except that, if in doubt, go upwards in brand/name/price rather than down
The answer varies on every input to the above.
Personally I prefer to see budget tyres with tread on cars, rather than quality tyres run til they are bald.
I run 3 vehicles, and all 3 have different useages, and that affects the tyre choice.
Nobody can answer what the right tyre is for anybody else. Except that, if in doubt, go upwards in brand/name/price rather than down
Terzo123 said:
Flumpo said:
Nexen tyres from s korea normally.
Nexens are decent enough. Just fitted a couple of their 4 season range to my shed with the winter coming up.832ark said:
swagmeister said:
The term QUALITY differs from person to person and item to item.
if something is quality it conforms to requirements - some would say a Jaguar or a Mercedes is a quality car - some would say a Dacia Sandero is a quality car - it does everything they ask of it.
I have been driving 32 years and owner over 60 cars. If I need to buy new tyre I buy the cheapest possible. I buy all my cars 2nd hand so effectively (as stated on here in many threads) running on part worns.
Ive never ended up in a ditch, never killed anyone nor ever thought these tyres are rubbish, my braking distance is terrible or the sky may fall down.
If I drove a Ferrari or a race car I could see the point - for day to day commuting to work and going to the supermarket or visit family of a weekend driving through 30,40,50,60,70 mph zones - any tyre should be enough to cope.
Que the people coming up saying they always buy the top tyre as they value their lives and their kids lives and you will be glad of a better tyre in the even of an emergency stop blah blah blah. You pay your money to take your chance, and so far my cheap tyres work for me.
I’d say that any decent driver should be able to tell the difference between a premium tyre and a ditchfinder in certain conditions such as wet braking. I have driven (non) performance cars back to back in such circumstances and the difference is night and day. Add in the fact that the performance differences are demonstrable and measurable under controlled conditions and I have to wonder why you’d choose a safety critical item that just about copes rather than something that does a good job. If you’re on the bones of your arse and it’s either that or nothing then fair enough but if it’s just to be tight then the mind boggles. if something is quality it conforms to requirements - some would say a Jaguar or a Mercedes is a quality car - some would say a Dacia Sandero is a quality car - it does everything they ask of it.
I have been driving 32 years and owner over 60 cars. If I need to buy new tyre I buy the cheapest possible. I buy all my cars 2nd hand so effectively (as stated on here in many threads) running on part worns.
Ive never ended up in a ditch, never killed anyone nor ever thought these tyres are rubbish, my braking distance is terrible or the sky may fall down.
If I drove a Ferrari or a race car I could see the point - for day to day commuting to work and going to the supermarket or visit family of a weekend driving through 30,40,50,60,70 mph zones - any tyre should be enough to cope.
Que the people coming up saying they always buy the top tyre as they value their lives and their kids lives and you will be glad of a better tyre in the even of an emergency stop blah blah blah. You pay your money to take your chance, and so far my cheap tyres work for me.
In real terms that’s probably had a more realistic impact on your children’s health or cancer risk and death than driving in a car with nexen tyres.
Put the best tyres you can afford on your car, but let’s not be hysterical and claim a mid range tyre brand is somehow playing Russian roulette with your children.
Had a mixture of cheap tyres on a Seat Leon diesel I bought secondhand once, including 'Accelera Alpha' tyres on the front. Was like driving on banana skins, wheelspin in 3rd gear, sliding on tight bends in the wet at less than 20mph. Needless to say they quickly got tossed.
Now, driving a 24 year old RWD BMW with no traction aids and cr@p crash resistance compared to moderns I figure decent tyres give me a better chance of survival, in an emergency scenario when I need all the grip I can get, maybe just if someone runs out in front of the car. Life is unpredictable and idiots are everywhere....
As a cycle commuter grip is crucial and I'd never put cheapo tyres on my bikes. Decent tyres start at £20-30.
Can't understand people wanting to save a few quid putting cheap rubbish tyres on their car.
Now, driving a 24 year old RWD BMW with no traction aids and cr@p crash resistance compared to moderns I figure decent tyres give me a better chance of survival, in an emergency scenario when I need all the grip I can get, maybe just if someone runs out in front of the car. Life is unpredictable and idiots are everywhere....
As a cycle commuter grip is crucial and I'd never put cheapo tyres on my bikes. Decent tyres start at £20-30.
Can't understand people wanting to save a few quid putting cheap rubbish tyres on their car.
When I bought my Cooper SD it was fitted with Nexen tyres - albeit 2 variants - matching front and rear.
I'd never used them before - quick search had them as a mid-range - so, not to bad, I thought.....
I personally couldn't wait to get them off. Having driven other mid-rangers before (Avon, Kumho, etc.), I couldn't believe the difference. The slippery handling and wheel spin just seemed like a nightmare in the making.
ASAP, it was fitted with Michelin Pilot Sport 4's all round. Not cheap, but the car was transformed in an instant.
Not really much help, am I?!!
I'd never used them before - quick search had them as a mid-range - so, not to bad, I thought.....
I personally couldn't wait to get them off. Having driven other mid-rangers before (Avon, Kumho, etc.), I couldn't believe the difference. The slippery handling and wheel spin just seemed like a nightmare in the making.
ASAP, it was fitted with Michelin Pilot Sport 4's all round. Not cheap, but the car was transformed in an instant.
Not really much help, am I?!!
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