Best tool for cutting heads off bolts

Best tool for cutting heads off bolts

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g3org3y

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21,578 posts

206 months

Saturday 3rd April 2021
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Had a bit of an issue with a rounded bolt yesterday while changing the rear shocks on the 330i. Luckily a combination of blow torch and impact wrench got it loose. However, for those occasions where such a strategy is ineffective and another option would be to just cut the head off the bolt, which is the best tool to buy?

I know people mention Dremels but are these considered the best option? Do you need to buy special (toughened?) cutting discs for them.

Interested to hear your experiences and advice.

TIA smile

steveo3002

10,876 posts

189 months

Saturday 3rd April 2021
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angle grinder and 1mm cutting disc

paintman

7,818 posts

205 months

Saturday 3rd April 2021
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steveo3002 said:
angle grinder and 1mm cutting disc
^^^This is weapon of first choice!

If access is a problem then I use a Dremel with the flexible extension.
You need the cutting discs which look like mini versions of the big ones, Dremel 426 or their speedclic SC456B. Be careful as they don't like any side force being applied.
The red ones just tend to explode on contact!

Scrump

23,432 posts

173 months

Saturday 3rd April 2021
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steveo3002 said:
angle grinder and 1mm cutting disc
yes

Chris32345

2,136 posts

77 months

Saturday 3rd April 2021
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Dermal is okay on something like a small screw on 8mm bolt


It will not touch a large hardened steel suspension bolt it just does not have the power
For that you need an angle grinder or air powered cut off wheel but need a good compressor to rub one of those

Penelope Stopit

11,209 posts

124 months

Saturday 3rd April 2021
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Inox cutting disk in an angle grinder has never failed.........................................yet

normalbloke

8,081 posts

234 months

Sunday 4th April 2021
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If access is tight, my go to is an air or electric powerfile. It enables you to go straight down onto the head and grind the head clean off, and it is controllable enough to leave no damage to the surface under. Also great for rivets and seized rivnuts. A great tool.

paintman

7,818 posts

205 months

Sunday 4th April 2021
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Chris32345 said:
Dermal is okay on something like a small screw on 8mm bolt


It will not touch a large hardened steel suspension bolt it just does not have the power
For that you need an angle grinder or air powered cut off wheel but need a good compressor to rub one of those
Our mileages clearly vary! smile
True it won't be as fast as for one thing it's a lot smaller but if you can't get a full size angle grinder into the available space then it's another option.
Last big job with mine was the o/s/r inner sill body mount on my RRC - cut off the bolt & the old mounting plus cleaning up to good metal before using one of Froggatt's Easy On mounts. Not a hope of getting the big grinder in to most of it.
(FWIW I can recommend Froggatts Easy On stuff)

Megaflow

10,399 posts

240 months

Sunday 4th April 2021
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steveo3002 said:
angle grinder and 1mm cutting disc
Is the answer to almost any question.

Fastpedeller

4,051 posts

161 months

Sunday 4th April 2021
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Use walldrive design sockets and don't bother with cutting the head off the bolt?

Penelope Stopit

11,209 posts

124 months

Sunday 4th April 2021
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Fastpedeller said:
Use walldrive design sockets and don't bother with cutting the head off the bolt?
Is shearing the bolt head off better than cutting it off?

Fastpedeller

4,051 posts

161 months

Sunday 4th April 2021
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Penelope Stopit said:
Fastpedeller said:
Use walldrive design sockets and don't bother with cutting the head off the bolt?
Is shearing the bolt head off better than cutting it off?
Eh? .... I'm suggesting that a walldrive socket will enable the bolt to be turned as desired (Op said it was 'rounded off') -I'm not suggesting shearing it off

Penelope Stopit

11,209 posts

124 months

Sunday 4th April 2021
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Fastpedeller said:
Penelope Stopit said:
Fastpedeller said:
Use walldrive design sockets and don't bother with cutting the head off the bolt?
Is shearing the bolt head off better than cutting it off?
Eh? .... I'm suggesting that a walldrive socket will enable the bolt to be turned as desired (Op said it was 'rounded off') -I'm not suggesting shearing it off
g3org3y said:
Had a bit of an issue with a rounded bolt yesterday while changing the rear shocks on the 330i. Luckily a combination of blow torch and impact wrench got it loose. However, for those occasions where such a strategy is ineffective and another option would be to just cut the head off the bolt, which is the best tool to buy?

I know people mention Dremels but are these considered the best option? Do you need to buy special (toughened?) cutting discs for them.

Interested to hear your experiences and advice.

TIA smile
Ok then



Wiry PAYE

329 posts

121 months

Sunday 4th April 2021
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Fastpedeller

4,051 posts

161 months

Sunday 4th April 2021
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Penelope Stopit said:
Fastpedeller said:
Penelope Stopit said:
Fastpedeller said:
Use walldrive design sockets and don't bother with cutting the head off the bolt?
Is shearing the bolt head off better than cutting it off?
Eh? .... I'm suggesting that a walldrive socket will enable the bolt to be turned as desired (Op said it was 'rounded off') -I'm not suggesting shearing it off
g3org3y said:
Had a bit of an issue with a rounded bolt yesterday while changing the rear shocks on the 330i. Luckily a combination of blow torch and impact wrench got it loose. However, for those occasions where such a strategy is ineffective and another option would be to just cut the head off the bolt, which is the best tool to buy?

I know people mention Dremels but are these considered the best option? Do you need to buy special (toughened?) cutting discs for them.

Interested to hear your experiences and advice.




TIA smile
Ok then
Before the bolt head is rounded is the ideal time for the wall drives of course smile
A few years ago, having rounded off a bolt head Oops! I searched out the wall drives, and much to my surprise the bolt was removed (and of course binned) despite the head being pretty far gone. The wall drives are now my 'tool of ist choice' rather than the one 'of last resort' Can't recommend them highly enough. I don't sell them BTW biggrin


Penelope Stopit

11,209 posts

124 months

Sunday 4th April 2021
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Fastpedeller said:
Before the bolt head is rounded is the ideal time for the wall drives of course smile
A few years ago, having rounded off a bolt head Oops! I searched out the wall drives, and much to my surprise the bolt was removed (and of course binned) despite the head being pretty far gone. The wall drives are now my 'tool of ist choice' rather than the one 'of last resort' Can't recommend them highly enough. I don't sell them BTW biggrin
Never used them, will take a look at some

markcoznottz

7,155 posts

239 months

Sunday 4th April 2021
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Penelope Stopit said:
Inox cutting disk in an angle grinder has never failed.........................................yet
Unbelievable things those discs. I cut a seized bearing off a shaft with one yesterday. It actually cut through the casing and the middle of the ball bearing. The only thing I don’t like is the dust. Oh and the sparks are mega hot as well.

Galveston

752 posts

214 months

Sunday 4th April 2021
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It depends on the situation, but I often use a die-grinder to munch away bolt heads. Nice and controllable, they can access awkward corners that you can't get a grinder to, and no sparks (albeit a shower of metal filings).

markcoznottz

7,155 posts

239 months

Sunday 4th April 2021
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Penelope Stopit said:
Fastpedeller said:
Before the bolt head is rounded is the ideal time for the wall drives of course smile
A few years ago, having rounded off a bolt head Oops! I searched out the wall drives, and much to my surprise the bolt was removed (and of course binned) despite the head being pretty far gone. The wall drives are now my 'tool of ist choice' rather than the one 'of last resort' Can't recommend them highly enough. I don't sell them BTW biggrin
Never used them, will take a look at some
My mate raves about those snap on wall/ flank drive impacts, I haven’t seen them in action, i wouldn’t like to guess the price I might need a sit down first. However whether a flank drive provides greater drive on the bolt head matters not if the bolt is properly seized. It will shear if properly stuck. I managed to get a steel thread out of an old brass pump that someone dropped off had been siezed in there 31 years. Local engineering shop said impossible. 5 minutes. Weld a bolt inside the broken thread. Induction heat to cherry red, douse with water until cold. Impact gun straight off. Job done.

Penelope Stopit

11,209 posts

124 months

Sunday 4th April 2021
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markcoznottz said:
Penelope Stopit said:
Inox cutting disk in an angle grinder has never failed.........................................yet
Unbelievable things those discs. I cut a seized bearing off a shaft with one yesterday. It actually cut through the casing and the middle of the ball bearing. The only thing I don’t like is the dust. Oh and the sparks are mega hot as well.
Yes, first time I used one couldn't believe how quick it cut though thick steel and as you mention bearings

markcoznottz said:
My mate raves about those snap on wall/ flank drive impacts, I haven’t seen them in action, i wouldn’t like to guess the price I might need a sit down first. However whether a flank drive provides greater drive on the bolt head matters not if the bolt is properly seized. It will shear if properly stuck. I managed to get a steel thread out of an old brass pump that someone dropped off had been siezed in there 31 years. Local engineering shop said impossible. 5 minutes. Weld a bolt inside the broken thread. Induction heat to cherry red, douse with water until cold. Impact gun straight off. Job done.
You're obviously a master at removing problem bolts. Last time I sheared a bolt it was in a flywheel and the job rapidly worsened when drilling and tapping