RE: 2023 Cupra Leon 300 vs Hyundai i30 N

RE: 2023 Cupra Leon 300 vs Hyundai i30 N

Sunday 26th February 2023

2023 Cupra Leon 300 vs Hyundai i30 N

Can't get a Civic? Don't want a Golf? Time to rate the best of the rest


It’s a curious time for the hot hatch. When the Ford Fiesta ST - the standard bearer for the supermini class since 2013 - is going off-sale, and a Honda Civic Type R is £50k (not to mention harder to get hold of than a GT3 RS), something’s clearly up. The genre famous for offering versatility and performance for any budget is apparently suffering the same chronic shortages as everywhere else: the fast Vauxhall Astra is now a not-very-fast plug-in hybrid, no Peugeot 308 GTI is ever likely again, and the Renault Sport Megane won’t get a direct replacement either. From Up GTI to RS3 (both of which can’t be bought right now, of course), the hot hatch sector is in a genuine state of flux.  

Still, at least for those who can’t get or don’t want one of the usual suspects, there is still a choice. For six years now, in one form or another, the Hyundai i30 N has given a great account of itself, and while the Cupra Leon may not have immediately set the segment on fire, it performs the traditional Seat trick of redeploying the Golf GTI's running gear in a less obvious setting. And with a good deal more power, too. 

That the i30 N has altered precious little since 2017 speaks volumes of its core rightness. It’s an old-school hot hatch but not an old-fashioned one, brimmed with attitude and no little character. As so many similar cars, even in just the past six years, have sought to further distance the driver from what’s going on, the Hyundai’s unapologetic level of intent has only grown in appeal. That starts before you go anywhere, its driver's seat clasping you tight and everything important - gearlever, traction control button, drive modes - all within easy reach and logically sited. Sounds obvious, but don’t forget the opposition we’re dealing with. This is a cabin designed by enthusiasts for enthusiasts, with a great set of dials (including the warm-up rev limit like an M car), a satisfying, weighty gearlever even as an automatic, good pedal placement and nice shift paddles. Its credentials as a hot hatch are never in question. 

For a spin-off brand that is supposed to be all about Latin flair, it's a pity that the Leon often seems like it's trying its hardest not to be sporty. There's nothing inherently wrong with the understated approach - for decades, Volkswagen had it down to a fine art - but the Leon veers into bland, save for its decent seats. Ignoring the quality and usability gripes that plague its wider generation, there’s precious little that hints at this being a 300hp, 155mph hot hatch, or a prospectively entertaining steer. The Cupra copper accents aren’t enough to lift it - in fact, they serve as a reminder that when a fast Leon was the value proposition, an occasionally dour interior could be excused; that’s harder to do at almost £40,000.  

The i30’s neatly judged interior is no façade for the driving experience either; if anything, it smartly previews what’s coming on the road. There are the obvious, attention-grabbing elements, from shift lights bright enough for Santa Pod to a military-grade exhaust, but subtler areas impress as well. The gearbox shifts dutifully regardless of what’s asked from it, perhaps even holding a gear a tad longer than usual for more racket, the pedal weights can’t be faulted, and there’s a tangible sense of connection to the front wheels ­through the steering. Beneath the tongue-in-cheek silliness of the i30, from the N Grin Shift to N Power Shift (yes, they are different), is a hatch of obvious quality. 

Alas, the driving experience in the Leon does too good a job of mirroring its appearance. Broadly speaking, the car is very capable - but it is terminally uninterested in cluing its owner into why such capabilities might be interesting. You tend to feel like you're being kept at arm's length, and even when you wind everything up in Cupra mode (which requires an annoying trip to the touchscreen) there’s none of the feistiness or feedback of the i30. Mostly this is about the steering's failure to come alive, yet it also reflects poorly on the damping, which manages to seem firm without ever properly hunkering down. Not like the i30 does, at any rate. Factor in a disappointing (and highly manufactured) soundtrack, and it all feels a bit flat - all the more so when you consider that Leon actually covers the ground very quickly indeed and is endowed with the newer, quicker-to-rev engine. Knowing the potential that’s in the platform - as evidenced in cars like the Clubsport Golf - just make the subdued nature of the performance even more disappointing. If ever a rip-snorting Cupra R was required, it's now.

Driving it back to back with the i30 goes to show what a tonic that extra bit of character can be. Like the old Japanese rally reps, the Hyundai somehow unearths a specialness that was never evident in the standard i30. The 280hp 2.0-litre motor cannot claim to be its main tentpole - it uses far more fuel than the Leon for less real-world performance - but it's never less than game. This is crucial because the i30 begs to be driven hard at every opportunity, and rewards you for putting your shoulder into it by firmly pushing back against you through the controls, digging in that bit harder and communicating clearly when limits have been breached. In less-than-perfect conditions, the Hyundai is less prone to axle tramp than the Cupra and more confidence-inspiring, if only because you’re always more aware of what’s going on. Neither thrived in wet, cold conditions like a Golf R would - but the Hyundai dealt with them better.  

With the Cupra solely offered with the DSG (only the 150hp petrol can be had with the manual), it ought to make more of the seven-speed transmission. With just the switch lever between the seat and the flimsy paddles behind the wheel, there is no incentive to get involved with the nitty gritty of actually driving the Leon. The gearbox is smooth enough left to its own devices, but it's no longer the class-leading dual-clutch it once was, and there’s no doubt that the experience would be more gratifying with concessions made to drivers that want to use its manual function. 

As we’ve alluded to before, the i30 N shows that an automatic can be both easy and engaging for a hot hatch - a trick sorely missing from any of the current VW/Cupra/Skoda alternatives (frustratingly so when they aren’t mutually exclusive attributes). It can be left in Drive (and even Eco for the engine, if you must) and dawdled about, albeit rather tautly, like any Hyundai hatch; but then it’s also capable of the touring car impression, lever right there or proper paddles on offer to change gear in a genuinely rewarding fashion. Eight gears mean the intermediate ratios are really close, too, so there’s always an excuse to blat up and down them. Point is, the Hyundai is fun because of its automatic, not despite it. Granted, you'll need to overlook the fact that an i30 with the eight-speed DCT, somewhat inexplicably, is officially even less efficient than the six-speed manual car - but apparently that’s the price you pay for having fun. 

Obviously, we're accustomed to the i30's efficiency shortcomings by now. But that it now costs BMW 128ti money to get into, does, admittedly, suggest a pause for thought. Hard to call out any casual buyer swayed by swankier materials and fewer trips to the petrol station. The turning circle is rubbish, too. And, while we've deliberately avoided comparison with the much more expensive Civic, it's fair to say that the N is no longer in the absolute top flight when it comes to modern front-drive hot hatches. 

Nevertheless, its advantage on the day is undeniable. Not because it offers an especially significant step-up in ability compared to the Leon, it just does a much better job of shouting about them. In just about every facet that really matters, it pulls out a lead - although it is probably sufficient to say that the i30 is the car that encourages harder driving, and then seems better equipped to deal with it. That it also doesn't sacrifice much, if anything, in terms of refinement and day-to-day usability only cements its position as the 'best of the rest'. In its shadow, the Leon slumps to something like Q-car status - which is sort of fine if you're after a toned-down, grown-up hot hatch for less than £40k. But that's what the Golf GTI is for, right? Cupra's basic values still seem too ill-defined, and the Leon's most notable shortcoming - its inability to hold your attention - is probably symptomatic of that wider failure. 

In contrast, by simply appealing to what a keen driver might want, Hyundai's N division has shown what can be achieved in a relatively short space of time. As proof that two-pedal hot hatches can be fun, and that a modern, fast five-door can be safe all the time as well as silly when required, the i30 stands apart. Much like the Megane and the Focus, it seems very likely that we will miss it terribly when it eventually goes - although who now would bet against the firm setting new standards with the incoming Ioniq 5 N? We can but hope. 

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SPECIFICATION | 2021 CUPRA LEON VZ2 

Engine: 1,984cc, four-cyl turboTransmission: 7-speed DSG auto, front-wheel drivePower (hp): 300@5,300-6,500rpmTorque (lb ft): 295@2,000-5,200rpm0-62mph: 5.7 secondsTop speed: 155mphWeight: 1,490kg (Cupra kerbweight)MPG: 35.8-37.2CO2: 171g/km (WLTP)Price: £37,425 (price as standard; price as tested £38,005, comprised of Magnatec Grey paint for £580) 

SPECIFICATION | 2022 HYUNDAI I30 N DCT 

Engine: 1,998cc 4-cyl turboTransmission: 8-speed dual-clutch auto, front-wheel drivePower (hp): 280@6,000rpmTorque (lb ft): 289@2,100-4,700rpm0-62mph: 5.4 secondsTop speed: 155mphWeight: 1,455kgMPG: 33.6CO2: 191g/kmPrice: £36,570 (price as standard; price as tested £36,860 comprised of Atlas White solid paint for £300) 

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fantheman80

Original Poster:

1,488 posts

51 months

Saturday 25th February 2023
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The i30N all day long. Oh Seat, I mean Cupra, where did it all go so bland...so boring.... After the gorgeous Mk1, to the equally tasty Cupra R and ST ABT versions last model...its come to this. The euro cars get brembo brakes, a cupra button on the wheel and other bits, so even they've admitted defeat on the UK market it seems...

Limpet

6,370 posts

163 months

Saturday 25th February 2023
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I owned an i30N for 18 months, selling it only because I needed something for towing and didn't have the budget to run 2 cars.

I still think we will look back on this as a classic hot hatch in time. Not in terms of stats or raw speed because it's easily beaten elsewhere, but for its sense of connection and fun. I sold an M140i to get into one because it pulled the BMW's trousers down as a driver's car. It's one of the few 'affordable' modern cars that actually has feel and progression to the controls. The brakes aren't over-servoed, the electric steering is still electric steering, but it's far better than the super-light, rubbery, springy rubbish that VAG punt out. You can tell it's been set up by people who love driving.

Plus, it doesn't take itself too seriously. There's a sense of fun about it that is sorely lacking even from much faster rivals. And it's rare enough on the road that seeing another is worthy of a flash and a wave.

Brilliant cars. So many people will never get past the badge.

macky17

2,217 posts

191 months

Saturday 25th February 2023
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MK4 focus ST is worth considering. I guess people assume it's just more of the same half-arsed psuedo hot hatch that the MK3 was but nothing could be further from the truth: 2.3 litres, massively improved chassis, adaptable dampers, e-diff, torque vectoring by braking, variable geometry turbo and (with the performance pack) switchable dampers and rev matching. It's very very good. Better than these? Don't know as I've not driven either but it wouldn't surprise me. I think ford, in light of the fact there would be no MK4 RS or Mk5, decided to go to town on the ST. I actually prefer it as a road car to the fk8 I owned for two years previously. More playful.

GreatScott2016

1,264 posts

90 months

Saturday 25th February 2023
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Limpet said:
I owned an i30N for 18 months, selling it only because I needed something for towing and didn't have the budget to run 2 cars.

I still think we will look back on this as a classic hot hatch in time. Not in terms of stats or raw speed because it's easily beaten elsewhere, but for its sense of connection and fun. I sold an M140i to get into one because it pulled the BMW's trousers down as a driver's car. It's one of the few 'affordable' modern cars that actually has feel and progression to the controls. The brakes aren't over-servoed, the electric steering is still electric steering, but it's far better than the super-light, rubbery, springy rubbish that VAG punt out. You can tell it's been set up by people who love driving.

Plus, it doesn't take itself too seriously. There's a sense of fun about it that is sorely lacking even from much faster rivals. And it's rare enough on the road that seeing another is worthy of a flash and a wave.

Brilliant cars. So many people will never get past the badge.
Well said. I think your penultimate paragraph sums it up perfectly. thumbup



mcelliott

8,750 posts

183 months

Saturday 25th February 2023
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Best of the rest, ha have to laugh at that one, the N kills the Golf in all the reviews I have seen, had my Fastback for 16 months, fabulous car drove a Golf albeit not for long, no comparison the N kills it, I have e46 and the fastback more than matches it for entertainment.

Maccmike8

1,063 posts

56 months

Saturday 25th February 2023
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I30 please.

Nickbrapp

5,277 posts

132 months

Saturday 25th February 2023
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2k more and get a m135i which is more likely cheaper on finance anyway

chris116

1,122 posts

170 months

Saturday 25th February 2023
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Definitely the Hyundai out of those two.

pb8g09

2,445 posts

71 months

Saturday 25th February 2023
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Nickbrapp said:
2k more and get a m135i which is more likely cheaper on finance anyway
But are st and look like an MPV.

If you’re gonna do that you may as well save £15k and buy a used M140i and get a proper BMW.

CG2020UK

1,683 posts

42 months

Saturday 25th February 2023
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I’ve drove both plus the majority of hot hatches.

Have to say I’m very surprised by the I30N always scoring so highly as on paper it should be my favourite but haven’t driven it I have to say it isn’t.

Personally I found it a very heavy car, it feels 200kg heavier than its rivals. It’s also not as fast and the mpg is literally half. It felt well sorted but then I found it wasn’t going as fast as its rivals. The cabin is very dark and feels cramped.

Admittedly I’ve only drove the manual version but it felt to me it was a generation behind. I got a cracking offer on a lightly used one as well so it was even a price issue for me or badge snobbery.

We are actually in the market for a used one as my wife loves the baby blue in them and they should be bombproof.

fantheman80

Original Poster:

1,488 posts

51 months

Saturday 25th February 2023
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Nickbrapp said:
2k more and get a m135i which is more likely cheaper on finance anyway
Not sure if you have read the reviews but if the M135i was a celebrity, it would be dean gaffney, having to queue for China whites while the i30n fist bumps tony the bouncer on his way in

BigMon

4,351 posts

131 months

Saturday 25th February 2023
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I had an I30N for two years and only sold it as I could walk to work and my wife hated it so we kept her car instead.

It put a smile on my face pretty much every time I drove it.

the-norseman

12,662 posts

173 months

Saturday 25th February 2023
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I was a SEAT/Cupra enthusiast for many years and went with SEAT UK/ SEAT Sport to many events around the world, my last was a 2014 Cupra 280 which I modified.

After I had sold it, I got invited to an event at Millbrook with Hyundai N driving the i30 N and thought it was a really fun car!

Living in MK, I'd probably buy the i30 N out of them two, as at the moment, every other car on the road is a Cupra round here due to the VW group staff getting them on cheap lease deals. There is at least 4 Cupra Formentors that do the school run near me.

the-norseman

12,662 posts

173 months

Saturday 25th February 2023
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fantheman80 said:
The i30N all day long. Oh Seat, I mean Cupra, where did it all go so bland...so boring.... After the gorgeous Mk1, to the equally tasty Cupra R and ST ABT versions last model...its come to this. The euro cars get brembo brakes, a cupra button on the wheel and other bits, so even they've admitted defeat on the UK market it seems...
Appears they have done more cost saving now by not even including an engine cover!

jbforce10

509 posts

177 months

Saturday 25th February 2023
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the-norseman said:
Appears they have done more cost saving now by not even including an engine cover!
I'm assuming PH removed the cover for the photo, but if not, surely in this age of reducing unnecessary plastic waste, that would be a good thing?

the-norseman

12,662 posts

173 months

Saturday 25th February 2023
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jbforce10 said:
I'm assuming PH removed the cover for the photo, but if not, surely in this age of reducing unnecessary plastic waste, that would be a good thing?
Its not really "waste" though is it, even if you remove it to fit an intake etc, you sell them on. its not like the plastic packaging mince comes in for example.

ArnageWRC

2,099 posts

161 months

Saturday 25th February 2023
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Limpet said:
Brilliant cars. So many people will never get past the badge.
Can't be car enthusiasts then, can they? A brand currently in the WRC, having won events, and two manufacturers championships......

jbforce10

509 posts

177 months

Saturday 25th February 2023
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the-norseman said:
jbforce10 said:
I'm assuming PH removed the cover for the photo, but if not, surely in this age of reducing unnecessary plastic waste, that would be a good thing?
Its not really "waste" though is it, even if you remove it to fit an intake etc, you sell them on. its not like the plastic packaging mince comes in for example.
By "waste" I meant by manufacturing the engine cover in the first place, as long as it's just for aesthetic reasons.

Aids0G

513 posts

151 months

Saturday 25th February 2023
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I had a brand new very early I30N back in 2017, so much fun and very engaging at all speeds, loved to slide about a bit and the exhaust noise was fantastic!

Only sold it as I needed more space and in many ways I wish I had kept it.

Mine had a few niggles during my 45,000 miles in 2 years, drove it hard every day, it was great on track especially when I switched to PS4's tyres and even more fun on back roads. The small fuel tank was a bit of a pain but overall it was great and supportive seats even after a 300 mile drive.

Warranty covered track days as well!

Water Fairy

5,563 posts

157 months

Saturday 25th February 2023
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I couldn't live with having to look at the Transformers badge on the Cupra steering wheel every time I drove it. Had a new MK1 Cupra and a MK2 FR with bcc kit. This is bland in comparison. Nor driven the N but they sound good and I really like the light blue they do.