RE: Saab 900 Turbo | High Mile Club

RE: Saab 900 Turbo | High Mile Club

Monday 22nd May 2023

Saab 900 Turbo | High Mile Club

Effortlessly cool in its day, and still effortlessly cool now - everyone loves a Saab 900 Turbo, don't they?


There are Saab 900 Turbos, and there Saab 900 Turbos – and proof that not all progress is good progress. The late ones that married the Saab badge and styling with a Vauxhall Cavalier platform are not the best. The earlier ones, on the other hand, have become rather collectable because, well, they were rather good. Proper Saabs, you might say.

That said, there was still some cross-breeding involved with the earlier 900s, which arrived in 1978 as the successor to the Saab 99. The engine that was used in both the 99 and early 900s was, of course, derived from the Triumph Dolomite slant four. But despite being based on something designed in the Midlands in the 1970s, and having a turbocharger to stress it further than Triumph dared – in the days when this was a new technology for mass-produced cars – Saab made it work reliably. Well, eventually.

The early B engines were used in both the 99 and the 900 until 1981, at which point Saab had reworked it enough to designate it as the H engine. This made it even more bulletproof, which is the word that tends to be used a lot when talking about the ‘proper’ 900s. And justifiably so. They were, in many respects, indestructible. Throughout the ‘80s, Saab was also seen as a world leader in turbocharging, with a range of low-pressure turbo engines that added torque without damaging fuel consumption too heavily, and full-pressure turbos, which were all about power.

You could tell the big-boost cars by their boost gauge, added to the instrument pack just above the fuel gauge. Now, along with shoulder pads, skinny jeans and a ratty-looking ponytail – or a permed mullet – there were few things more 80s and coveted than a boost gauge. By the middle of the decade, these were becoming more commonplace, on models such the Integrale and Cosworth, but those were still the proper high-performance machines rather than everyday transport. In contrast, the Saab 900 was a car your dad might have chosen, if he was too cool to own a BMW 5 Series and worked as an architect.

That’s the other thing: nobody hated you for driving a Saab. You cannot hate someone who drives a Scandinavian car. This is just a simple law of the universe it seems. If you drove a BMW, you would wither and die at a T-junction because no one would let you out. And if you were seen in a Sierra Cosworth, well, everyone would assume you were a car thief, because that was the company car of choice for those in that line of work. But Saab drivers were well-liked by everyone. They weren’t vulgar. They were polite, well-meaning, affable, middle-class folk, who hosted candlelit dinner parties for their affable, middle-class friends. Because of this reputation, you could turn up to any occasion in your Saab 900 and people would know immediately that you were a good egg.

They would know you were smart, too. Smart enough to buy a car that not only presented the perfect classy-but-not-flashy image to the world, but was also well engineered. Which is why, 180,000 miles and 35 years later, this one appears to still be going strong and looking good. Before those of you with the MOT-checker on speed dial mention it: no, it doesn’t have an MOT. But I’ve spoken to the vendor, and he says the car will be tested and come with a 12-month ticket when it’s sold. On the topic of MOTs, this one had what reads like a fairly significant failure in 2021 over rust. This is the thing that kills Saab 900s. Despite being built in a country that suffers from some of the harshest winters in Europe, 900s still rot. So the fact that this one failed is good news. Think about it: that failure was dated December 2021, and by January 2022 this car was back on the road with a clean bill of health. Someone else did all the work so you don’t have to.

The vendor also told me that this car presents well, drives well and comes with a fully stamped service book. The price might seem steep at first glance, but thanks to the rarity and desirability of 900s in general – and the ones with a boost gauge in particular – that’s what they cost these days, even with a few miles. That’s still a lot cheaper than an Integrale or a Cosworth, and for a car that’s still as effortlessly cool as ever.


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CM954

Original Poster:

532 posts

199 months

Monday 22nd May 2023
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Tints aren't doing it any favours IMHO

Water Fairy

6,106 posts

169 months

Monday 22nd May 2023
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This has listed for quite a long time now, originally for £14995.

Gearboxes are a weak link.

Rear strut mounts and driveshaft tunnels.

Looks clean in the normal areas of rust, door bottoms, bonnet edges etc.

In the day dad had a black, Heuschmid tuned 2 door turbo with ronal style alloys with Heuschmid stamped on them.

That was a cool car and quick in its day.

Richard-390a0

2,855 posts

105 months

Monday 22nd May 2023
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£13k lol!

trevalvole

1,452 posts

47 months

Monday 22nd May 2023
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CM954 said:
Tints aren't doing it any favours IMHO
And you do have to wonder about the legality of the front ones.

With 180k on the clock, £5k would seem more like it to me.

Slowlygettingit

775 posts

55 months

Monday 22nd May 2023
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I do like a Saab turbo

Just not this one. It looks plane (geddit) wrong in so many ways. Definitely not effortless.

Dombilano

1,304 posts

69 months

Monday 22nd May 2023
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Isn't that the same steering wheel as mk2 Fiat Uno Turbo's?
I'd struggle to pay more than £5k for this without feeling robbed

Water Fairy

6,106 posts

169 months

Monday 22nd May 2023
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Dombilano said:
Isn't that the same steering wheel as mk2 Fiat Uno Turbo's?
I'd struggle to pay more than £5k for this without feeling robbed
No, looks like a Carlsson wheel to me. Happy to be corrected.


Edited by Water Fairy on Monday 22 May 18:25

alfettagtv2000

220 posts

211 months

Monday 22nd May 2023
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A little pricey for that example but people are happy to pay that for some s*** old ford...

ballans

861 posts

119 months

Monday 22nd May 2023
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Ooooh, that’s nice. Think it’s priced high as it’s the saloon rather than the more common hatch or convertible.
They can be had for quite a bit less so that’s were my money would go.
Happy to be corrected but don’t think the boost gauge stuck on the dash is standard. The Carlson add ons look good though.

BenS94

3,144 posts

38 months

Monday 22nd May 2023
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There used to be an identical car, locally registered to me,very close to 500,000 miles. K453 FRM I think it was.

Equus

16,980 posts

115 months

Monday 22nd May 2023
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ballans said:
Think it’s priced high as it’s the saloon rather than the more common hatch or convertible.
They can be had for quite a bit less so that’s were my money would go.
I had a T16 saloon, back in the day - it was rare because everybody preferred the hatchback and when nearly new it was worth less, as result.

I sold mine in the early noughties, for about £2k, at similar mileage to this one (but to be fair I wouldn't be surprised if it was still running: it was well put-together and totally reliable in my hands)..

It didn't do corners - I've seen supertankers with less understeer - and the turbo lag was comical, but I still have fond memories.

Cold

15,948 posts

104 months

Monday 22nd May 2023
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article said:
You could tell the big-boost cars by their boost gauge, added to the instrument pack just above the fuel gauge.


Yes. hehe

J4CKO

44,209 posts

214 months

Monday 22nd May 2023
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I like those but 13 grand, give over…



ducnick

2,035 posts

257 months

Monday 22nd May 2023
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The stench of super skunk is strong with this one. Used to be a Rastafarian gentleman who dealt weed out of one just like this with the blacked out windows near me.

Andy JB

1,320 posts

233 months

Monday 22nd May 2023
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This looks okay from a few feet away but is an amalgamation of Carlson bits, a nice thing and still quirky today but 4 to 5k.

I had a convertible version in the 90s in Talladega red similar to this one. Exceptionally well built car and reliable, hard to believe engine was triumph design.

Poor scuttle shake though and steering feel left wanting, but overall very memorable pleasant car along many european trips completed. Sold it after 4 years for same as purchase price, probably worth more now.

Turbobanana

7,157 posts

215 months

Monday 22nd May 2023
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Equus said:
I had a T16 saloon, back in the day - it was rare because everybody preferred the hatchback and when nearly new it was worth less, as result.

/snip/

It didn't do corners - I've seen supertankers with less understeer - and the turbo lag was comical, but I still have fond memories.
2 doors were fastest as they were a bit lighter. 3 door looked the best and you could fit a complete futon in the back.

Any 900 that understeers as you describe is probably on the wrong tyres. Engine is north - south on these and sits quite well back, not like an Audi. Rear axle is well located.

ETA anything under 200,000 miles on one of these is not considered high mileage.


Edited by Turbobanana on Monday 22 May 20:57

biggbn

26,957 posts

234 months

Monday 22nd May 2023
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Had a lot of these and agree re two door. I had almost every iteration of Saab 900 over the years and the best, tightest driving one I had was a two door 900 on steel wheels with manual windows and a big steel sunroof. Five speed manual box and the 8v Turbo intercooled engine, christ it was an effortlessly torquey old thing. Adored that wee car, even compared to the 900s Aero fpt I had. The lpt 16v turbo were a lovey drive too.

Pughmacher

427 posts

57 months

Monday 22nd May 2023
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Is it my eyes or is the picture of the engine bay showing it without OSF strut in place? Bit of remedial work and pics of the handiwork perhaps! biggrin

Not for me thanks. The boost gauge and the tints although fairly easily rectified do make me wonder!

bigaoi

140 posts

171 months

Monday 22nd May 2023
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"Effortlessly cool in its day, and still effortlessly cool now - everyone loves a Saab 900 Turbo, don't they?" Yes. Dunno about this one, but in general, yes.

Wren-went

957 posts

52 months

Monday 22nd May 2023
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As someone.who had a 900 Turbo.convertible the 900 is a fantastic car

However much I am a fan I wouldn't pay £13 grand for an 180,000 miles 900 Turbo.

It's far too much for a car 10 years ago would have been a grand to £1500 motor.