Best Road Tyres - 991 / 992
Discussion
My 992 C2S came from the factory on the Goodyears. I recently swapped them for Michelin PS4S (NA0) but I have to say I think the turn in was better on the Goodyears.
The Goodyears had a slight feel of a track day Tyre about them, sort of square shouldered for a darty front end which I liked. The Michelins feel slightly less direct to me although they are a little bit quieter and better riding than the Goodyear though it’s not that noticeable.
The Michelins feel quite good in the wet, I’ll give them that.
But TBH I think I preferred the Goodyear.
The Goodyears had a slight feel of a track day Tyre about them, sort of square shouldered for a darty front end which I liked. The Michelins feel slightly less direct to me although they are a little bit quieter and better riding than the Goodyear though it’s not that noticeable.
The Michelins feel quite good in the wet, I’ll give them that.
But TBH I think I preferred the Goodyear.
politeperson said:
Lovely - and thanks for the experience guided recommendation of the MPS4S.johnny senna said:
I recently swapped them for Michelin PS4S (NA0) but I have to say I think the turn in was better on the Goodyears.
Useful to have a view on the Goodyear. They don't seem to receive anywhere near as much attention. Had them on a 981 Cayman GTS a few years back. They were good but I don't think I ever felt truly comfortable with them.Would be great to have a view on the Continental SportContact 7. The reviews are very positive.
https://www.evo.co.uk/car-technology/204817/contin...
DangerDoom said:
The MPS4S seems pretty unbeatable - and even more impressive for a tyre that's what, 6 (?) years old now.
There is a new Pilot Sport S 5 (again the S is important as this is a different tyre to the Pilot Sport 5) but it's only currently available in limited 21" sizes and there don't really seem to be any reviews yet. We should see N rated versions in future I would guess.The rating that's missing from those labels... the tyre quality / performance in the dry.
The label gives you an insight on:
Noise (important),
Fuel efficiency (also important), and,
Wet braking performance (very important).
There's no indication of braking performance in the dry; which seems like an odd omission as that's an important feature. There's also no indication of quality, and tbf it's subjective, and may vary from one car to the next... and that's the question that prompted the thread. Which tyres give you confidence, which tyres feel right on turn in, how does the tyre handle the kind of driving you're going to be doing - motorway miles, B road blasts, mountain road trips, etc..., and then there's tyre life, typical temperatures for the kind of driving you'll be doing, and so on and so on.
The MPS4S, as an example, is widely considered to be top tier, and it probably is one of the best tyres currently available (IMHO). I wouldn't hesitate to recommend them, from personal experience, although the only area where they would be marked down is on how quickly the tread depth disappeared on me. But maybe that was because they provided such impressive confidence and in turn I was happier to push the car, and as a consequence of that the heat cycle and abuse the tyres received was higher than it would've been with another tyre.
With the Nankang AS2+ vs Michelin and observation on cost difference... is that the question you're asking?
The label gives you an insight on:
Noise (important),
Fuel efficiency (also important), and,
Wet braking performance (very important).
There's no indication of braking performance in the dry; which seems like an odd omission as that's an important feature. There's also no indication of quality, and tbf it's subjective, and may vary from one car to the next... and that's the question that prompted the thread. Which tyres give you confidence, which tyres feel right on turn in, how does the tyre handle the kind of driving you're going to be doing - motorway miles, B road blasts, mountain road trips, etc..., and then there's tyre life, typical temperatures for the kind of driving you'll be doing, and so on and so on.
The MPS4S, as an example, is widely considered to be top tier, and it probably is one of the best tyres currently available (IMHO). I wouldn't hesitate to recommend them, from personal experience, although the only area where they would be marked down is on how quickly the tread depth disappeared on me. But maybe that was because they provided such impressive confidence and in turn I was happier to push the car, and as a consequence of that the heat cycle and abuse the tyres received was higher than it would've been with another tyre.
With the Nankang AS2+ vs Michelin and observation on cost difference... is that the question you're asking?
Edited by DangerDoom on Thursday 29th February 14:00
Who determines the performance ratings on the tyre label? The manufacturer or an independent industry assessor?
For a 991 or 992, I would go for the correct N spec tyres.
But, some years ago, I was advised to go for the quietest rating.
I was told that the ‘on the limit’ differences in grip, in the wet or dry, don’t necessarily make a nicer day-to-day tyre - ‘subjectively’.
Subjectively, the quieter, more compliant and progressive tyre usually feels best - and this is where GY often score highly.
For a 991 or 992, I would go for the correct N spec tyres.
But, some years ago, I was advised to go for the quietest rating.
I was told that the ‘on the limit’ differences in grip, in the wet or dry, don’t necessarily make a nicer day-to-day tyre - ‘subjectively’.
Subjectively, the quieter, more compliant and progressive tyre usually feels best - and this is where GY often score highly.
It's independent, and I think there are a few firms which are certified to evaluate tyres in compliance with Regulation (EU) 2020/740 (this being the regulation which guides the standards and specifies the information which needs to be made available on the tyre labels).
The assessments (for the qualities that are reported on the label) are done in as objective a way as possible and in a laboratory setting. This will give you an idea.
https://youtu.be/IhmYYDOm3Lo?si=ro6-5kFnfFf_VFoY
Everything else though, in terms of "I think this tyre offers more grip" and "these tyres lasted me 100,000 miles"... subjective (in my view).
What do you have in mind when you opt for an N rated tyre over a non N rated tyre?
The assessments (for the qualities that are reported on the label) are done in as objective a way as possible and in a laboratory setting. This will give you an idea.
https://youtu.be/IhmYYDOm3Lo?si=ro6-5kFnfFf_VFoY
Everything else though, in terms of "I think this tyre offers more grip" and "these tyres lasted me 100,000 miles"... subjective (in my view).
What do you have in mind when you opt for an N rated tyre over a non N rated tyre?
Edited by DangerDoom on Thursday 29th February 15:09
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