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Johnspex

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Wednesday 25th December 2024
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I was watching the Who on the Isle of Wight in 2004 the other night. Zac Starkey was playing what I always thought were called claves to rhyme with caves or braves or knaves.
Roger Daltrey called them clarvays to rhyme with, well nothing I can think of.
Is it clarvays or claves?

Stella Tortoise

3,037 posts

158 months

Wednesday 25th December 2024
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Johnspex said:
I was watching the Who on the Isle of Wight in 2004 the other night. Zac Starkey was playing what I always thought were called claves to rhyme with caves or braves or knaves.
Roger Daltrey called them clarvays to rhyme with, well nothing I can think of.
Is it clarvays or claves?
No idea, never seen it but I bet it was the intro to Magic Bus.

Johnspex

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199 months

Wednesday 25th December 2024
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Exactly that.

GetCarter

30,185 posts

294 months

Wednesday 25th December 2024
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They are claves. Pronounced Clar-veys.

I've written for them when I recorded in Cuba.

..and when I say written for them, when I got it wrong, I had the Cuban rhythm police on my back telling me where exactly I was in error.

Claves are used to signify a particular rhythm in Latin American music, often derived from the African tradition (I know, you're bored already).

Long / short of it, Cuba demands that the original patterns are used - it's kinda' cultural.

You hear them a lot in Bossa Nova and various rhumba tracks.

Here's one of many of mine - the claves are playing in the RIGHT place!! (or I'd be in trouble)

https://stevecarter.com/Cuba96.mp3

thebraketester

15,035 posts

153 months

Wednesday 25th December 2024
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GetCarter said:
They are claves. Pronounced Clar-veys.

I've written for them when I recorded in Cuba.

..and when I say written for them, when I got it wrong, I had the Cuban rhythm police on my back telling me where exactly I was in error.

Claves are used to signify a particular rhythm in Latin American music, often derived from the African tradition (I know, you're bored already).

Long / short of it, Cuba demands that the original patterns are used - it's kinda' cultural.

You hear them a lot in Bossa Nova and various rhumba tracks.

Here's one of many of mine - the claves are playing in the RIGHT place!! (or I'd be in trouble)

https://stevecarter.com/Cuba96.mp3
12,123…. Or 123,12 :-) I’ve never understood which one is right for what. Someone did explain it to me about 20 years ago but I’ve had a few sleeps since.

Stella Tortoise

3,037 posts

158 months

Wednesday 25th December 2024
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GetCarter said:
They are claves. Pronounced Clar-veys.


I've written for them when I recorded in Cuba.

..and when I say written for them, when I got it wrong, I had the Cuban rhythm police on my back telling me where exactly I was in error.

Claves are used to signify a particular rhythm in Latin American music, often derived from the African tradition (I know, you're bored already).

Long / short of it, Cuba demands that the original patterns are used - it's kinda' cultural.

You hear them a lot in Bossa Nova and various rhumba tracks.

Here's one of many of mine - the claves are playing in the RIGHT place!! (or I'd be in trouble)

https://stevecarter.com/Cuba96.mp3
Every day I get in the queue…

GetCarter

30,185 posts

294 months

Thursday 26th December 2024
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thebraketester said:
12,123…. Or 123,12 :-) I’ve never understood which one is right for what. Someone did explain it to me about 20 years ago but I’ve had a few sleeps since.
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smile

Johnspex

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199 months

Thursday 26th December 2024
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Thanks Get Carter..